Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
03-10-2009, 09:38 AM
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Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
Yes I searched...
I am looking to use my H22 Euro-R swap for something else and I am going to put an F22B1 back into my 97 Accord SE...
YES.. the down grade sucks but i turboing it once I get it installed.
My question is what kind of power can I put down once I turbo it.... without building it at all.. I plan on using a Turbonetics t3/t4 .60(hot) .63(cold).. how much boost with this turbo and such...........
TIA
-kidfrost
STAGE 1 COMPLETE!!!
JUST ABOUT THERE!!!!!
Update:
got it close to completed this weekend.
other than the base map being shitty it is almost done..
put the front end back together... it required some modification to the fog light brackets.
installed my boost controller
idk finished a bunch of little stuff... take a look at the few pics i snapped.
i still gotta finish wiring my gauges and build my gauge "pod" if you will
as you can see i need to put a corner light in it .. i broke mine.
other than that i just need to build a traction bar and then ill have room for my 3" DP.
OK Heres some info and some setups i have got here so far.
F22A1 and F22B/F22Ax Exhaust Manifold differences.
Balance Shaft Eliminator Kits
SPARK PLUGS
use
BKR7ES for 600 HP or less
BKR8ES for 601 hp or more
PERIOD... from more than one source!
Heres a copy of 6 PSI vs 9 PSI (I know its a bit chunky... It was after just a short amount of tuning, but 244 WHP at 9 PSI... SUper conservative... It had plenty left in it if I would have ****ed with it some more, but I went up to 16 ish PSI to get the 305/307.. Id really like to know what it made when we turned it up to 22ish PSI trying to blow it up, sure FELT good
Youll do just fine and make your goalks easily. Just be conservative with the timing.. Use boost to make the power
PICS OF SETUPS
if you have some info or pics that you think should be in here plz lmk by PM!
thanks again guys
I am looking to use my H22 Euro-R swap for something else and I am going to put an F22B1 back into my 97 Accord SE...
YES.. the down grade sucks but i turboing it once I get it installed.
My question is what kind of power can I put down once I turbo it.... without building it at all.. I plan on using a Turbonetics t3/t4 .60(hot) .63(cold).. how much boost with this turbo and such...........
TIA
-kidfrost
STAGE 1 COMPLETE!!!
JUST ABOUT THERE!!!!!
Update:
got it close to completed this weekend.
other than the base map being shitty it is almost done..
put the front end back together... it required some modification to the fog light brackets.
installed my boost controller
idk finished a bunch of little stuff... take a look at the few pics i snapped.
i still gotta finish wiring my gauges and build my gauge "pod" if you will
as you can see i need to put a corner light in it .. i broke mine.
other than that i just need to build a traction bar and then ill have room for my 3" DP.
OK Heres some info and some setups i have got here so far.
F22A1 and F22B/F22Ax Exhaust Manifold differences.
yes. the exhaust ports for the F22a and the F22b1 are different. if you look at the center ports, the ones on the f22b1 are together.
the exhaust ports on the F22a1 are separated:
they wont match up together. the F22a motors seem to flow better than the F22b1 motors tho. its been discussed and researched on cb7tuner.com plenty of times. you'll get a better gain from a F22a then you would a F22b1 due to the head and intake manifold designs.
the exhaust ports on the F22a1 are separated:
they wont match up together. the F22a motors seem to flow better than the F22b1 motors tho. its been discussed and researched on cb7tuner.com plenty of times. you'll get a better gain from a F22a then you would a F22b1 due to the head and intake manifold designs.
use
BKR7ES for 600 HP or less
BKR8ES for 601 hp or more
You do not even need to CONTEMPLATE an 8 range plug unless going for over 600 WHP. There is no need. I (as well as everyone I know) run 7s Unless I Know Im going to be on high boost for a while (Making north of say 550-600).
PLUS....The irridium plugs are expensive... and TOTALLY uneccessary for your goals. Unless you like to waste cash. Unfortunately they are only resistor plugs NGK makes that are in a range colder or equal to 8. You also need to be VERY carefull gapping them. I ran them for a minute as they were the only resistor based plugs I could find in an 8 unil recently for reasons outlined below.
The Non-resistor plugs (readilly available in ranges colder than even 8) cause RF interferance that can play havoc on EMS systems (including stock ECUs be them chipped running Edited ROMs, or factory)... SO make sure whatever you run is a resistor plug. I had a reallyh wierd issue with them and have seen it first hand. A small amount of research will show you its far from an isolated incident.
Denso makes some cheap 8 range resistor plugs Im playing with on the dyno at 700 WHP...
But for Pump gas (550WHP @17 PSI), I run the 7s. In fact theyre whats in my car now. DOnt listen to a salesman for CHrist sake man.
CLIFF NOTES...
RUN THE BKR or BCPR untill you make more than at LEAST 550.
PLUS....The irridium plugs are expensive... and TOTALLY uneccessary for your goals. Unless you like to waste cash. Unfortunately they are only resistor plugs NGK makes that are in a range colder or equal to 8. You also need to be VERY carefull gapping them. I ran them for a minute as they were the only resistor based plugs I could find in an 8 unil recently for reasons outlined below.
The Non-resistor plugs (readilly available in ranges colder than even 8) cause RF interferance that can play havoc on EMS systems (including stock ECUs be them chipped running Edited ROMs, or factory)... SO make sure whatever you run is a resistor plug. I had a reallyh wierd issue with them and have seen it first hand. A small amount of research will show you its far from an isolated incident.
Denso makes some cheap 8 range resistor plugs Im playing with on the dyno at 700 WHP...
But for Pump gas (550WHP @17 PSI), I run the 7s. In fact theyre whats in my car now. DOnt listen to a salesman for CHrist sake man.
CLIFF NOTES...
RUN THE BKR or BCPR untill you make more than at LEAST 550.
I ran out of injector (450cc dsm at the time) on a totally bone stock f22b1 @ 335whp/ 279wtrq. Thats was around 15-16ish psi if my memory serves me correctly on a t3/ 60-1, custom turbo setup, 255hp walbro, p28/hondata, etc.
I would suggest head studs over 300whp and it cheap insurance none the less.
I would suggest head studs over 300whp and it cheap insurance none the less.
these are taken from cb7tuner.com:
Straightedge - 402whp / 325wtq Holset@ 20psi F22a
Turbo90accord - 315 whp/ 297 wtq T3/T04 60-1@14.5psi F22a SOHC
Dep22build - 300 whp/315 wtq t3/t4 hybrid@16psi F22a1/h23 head
Chessboxer - 244whp/239wtq 14b@12 psi f22a1
quickangel93- 243whp/235wtq 14b@12psi f22a6/a1
youngJAY - 201whp/212wtrq 14b@ 8 psi f22a6
Quaidum-198whp/207wtq f22a6 sohc 13c turbo
91accordexr33 - 188whp/188wtq F22a4 sohc 16g@8psi auto trans
Mullet - 179whp/217wtq @10psi F22a SOHC
most are built, but with about 8-10psi on a STOCK block and bottom end, you can be in the 200whp range with the torque to match.
Straightedge - 402whp / 325wtq Holset@ 20psi F22a
Turbo90accord - 315 whp/ 297 wtq T3/T04 60-1@14.5psi F22a SOHC
Dep22build - 300 whp/315 wtq t3/t4 hybrid@16psi F22a1/h23 head
Chessboxer - 244whp/239wtq 14b@12 psi f22a1
quickangel93- 243whp/235wtq 14b@12psi f22a6/a1
youngJAY - 201whp/212wtrq 14b@ 8 psi f22a6
Quaidum-198whp/207wtq f22a6 sohc 13c turbo
91accordexr33 - 188whp/188wtq F22a4 sohc 16g@8psi auto trans
Mullet - 179whp/217wtq @10psi F22a SOHC
most are built, but with about 8-10psi on a STOCK block and bottom end, you can be in the 200whp range with the torque to match.
forgot to add this. you wanted dyno sheets? taken from cb7tuner.com again(im a mod up there. lol)
set up?
1992 ex 4dr frost white
210k engine
Ebay turbo kit
Log manifold
T3/t4 63ar
Large fmic
Hks ssqv knock
Dsm 450cc
2.5"DP
2.25 exhaust
S2k muffler(restriction)
Basemapped/partial street tune
set up?
1992 ex 4dr frost white
210k engine
Ebay turbo kit
Log manifold
T3/t4 63ar
Large fmic
Hks ssqv knock
Dsm 450cc
2.5"DP
2.25 exhaust
S2k muffler(restriction)
Basemapped/partial street tune
94 Accord EX
F22B1 (BONE STOCK)
LSD mini tubular mani
t3/04e 57 trim
255/260 @10 PSI
305/307 @ 15 PSI.... 3 years ago. I beat the shiot out of it for 1-2 years and 40K miles.
Turned it up to 22 PSI without retunung it TRYING to blow it up before I pulled it for the built H but it wouldnt blow (well, oik i ****ed up the #4 ringland). Smoked like a bitch, but pulled HARD... Blew a coupler in half before I got to blow the motor up. ****, I actually sold the internals and **** too...
LOL
F22B1 (BONE STOCK)
LSD mini tubular mani
t3/04e 57 trim
255/260 @10 PSI
305/307 @ 15 PSI.... 3 years ago. I beat the shiot out of it for 1-2 years and 40K miles.
Turned it up to 22 PSI without retunung it TRYING to blow it up before I pulled it for the built H but it wouldnt blow (well, oik i ****ed up the #4 ringland). Smoked like a bitch, but pulled HARD... Blew a coupler in half before I got to blow the motor up. ****, I actually sold the internals and **** too...
LOL
Heres a copy of 6 PSI vs 9 PSI (I know its a bit chunky... It was after just a short amount of tuning, but 244 WHP at 9 PSI... SUper conservative... It had plenty left in it if I would have ****ed with it some more, but I went up to 16 ish PSI to get the 305/307.. Id really like to know what it made when we turned it up to 22ish PSI trying to blow it up, sure FELT good
Youll do just fine and make your goalks easily. Just be conservative with the timing.. Use boost to make the power
if you have some info or pics that you think should be in here plz lmk by PM!
thanks again guys
Last edited by KidFrost; 05-14-2009 at 12:50 PM.
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03-10-2009, 10:07 AM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
Have you looked in the Forced induction forum?
I've read a few posts that say 300-400 WHP is possible on stock internals. but I wouldn't think that would be hauling on it all day every day. Don't forget about the rest of the drive train and suspension as well. I'm sure it's great to through together a 300-400Whp engine but you still need the drive train, chassis & suspension to support beating on it.
extralargenog is a good member to ask about boosted F's. I'm pretty sure he's been through all of the stages.
*Edit
Found a post he made about boosted F's.
I've read a few posts that say 300-400 WHP is possible on stock internals. but I wouldn't think that would be hauling on it all day every day. Don't forget about the rest of the drive train and suspension as well. I'm sure it's great to through together a 300-400Whp engine but you still need the drive train, chassis & suspension to support beating on it.
extralargenog is a good member to ask about boosted F's. I'm pretty sure he's been through all of the stages.
*Edit
Found a post he made about boosted F's.
Truth.
Not even debatable.
Im a F lover and all, but its the truth... The H is NO weaker on stock sleeves than the F (actually the FRMS are STRONGER... The issue is FRMs lack of playing well with forged slugs). Its the Pistons, specifically the ringlands that are suspect to damage - a sub par tune will **** any cast piston Honda motor up. Being conservative on the timing, or making SURE youre running fuel adequate for your CYLINDER pressure is key (as mentioned before... PSI is way to relatuive a term to be used here). Hence the lower compression of the F is more forgiving tune wise due to a much more friendly detonation threshold than the higher compression H... But thats it
The F has lower compression, thats about its only "advantage" for boosting it. A good tuner will make that not enough to even make it an arguable point...
The iron liners (Fs sleeves are NOT IRON, the LINERS are... The sleeves are aluminum just like the block casting; with iron liners.... LIke a B series block.
Mod for mod it (The H) WILL make more power... Is it the be all end all? No. The F is a VERY underestimateed powerplant... BUt the H is a much more effieicent motor out of the box. ANYONE whom argues it is a ****ing moron.
The Ax heads have superior port geomewtry, but like I said, MOD FOR MOD (You can poort Hs too>> LOL)... The H will perform better...
I rocked a sohc when TWKD95CD5 and I held the F series highest Stock block numbers on HT.... SO Im not just talking out of my ***, nor do I have it in for the F... Its a VERY stout choice for powerplant... A fresh bore, set of forged slugs, stock rods and MAKE SURE YOU RUN A DAMPENER (No lightweight crank pulley bullshit) and you have a SOLID foundation for 400 WHP. ALL DAY.
Not even debatable.
Im a F lover and all, but its the truth... The H is NO weaker on stock sleeves than the F (actually the FRMS are STRONGER... The issue is FRMs lack of playing well with forged slugs). Its the Pistons, specifically the ringlands that are suspect to damage - a sub par tune will **** any cast piston Honda motor up. Being conservative on the timing, or making SURE youre running fuel adequate for your CYLINDER pressure is key (as mentioned before... PSI is way to relatuive a term to be used here). Hence the lower compression of the F is more forgiving tune wise due to a much more friendly detonation threshold than the higher compression H... But thats it
The F has lower compression, thats about its only "advantage" for boosting it. A good tuner will make that not enough to even make it an arguable point...
The iron liners (Fs sleeves are NOT IRON, the LINERS are... The sleeves are aluminum just like the block casting; with iron liners.... LIke a B series block.
Mod for mod it (The H) WILL make more power... Is it the be all end all? No. The F is a VERY underestimateed powerplant... BUt the H is a much more effieicent motor out of the box. ANYONE whom argues it is a ****ing moron.
The Ax heads have superior port geomewtry, but like I said, MOD FOR MOD (You can poort Hs too>> LOL)... The H will perform better...
I rocked a sohc when TWKD95CD5 and I held the F series highest Stock block numbers on HT.... SO Im not just talking out of my ***, nor do I have it in for the F... Its a VERY stout choice for powerplant... A fresh bore, set of forged slugs, stock rods and MAKE SURE YOU RUN A DAMPENER (No lightweight crank pulley bullshit) and you have a SOLID foundation for 400 WHP. ALL DAY.
Last edited by GhostAccord; 03-10-2009 at 10:22 AM.
03-16-2009, 05:57 AM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
well i am looking for like 250hp at maybe 11 lbs or so out of a t3/t4 54 trim turbo.
i have a good running f22 and if i blow it its not the end of the world as i have my '05 BOM Integra Type-S beater to drive...... if i MUST..lol
i will be required to build a bottom end for an f22 it i do blow i up..
so u think i will be good?
thanks
ooh yea one more quesion if you know
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/front-mount-intercooler-size-97-accord-good-fitment-w-o-hacking-my-bumper-2525542/
i have a good running f22 and if i blow it its not the end of the world as i have my '05 BOM Integra Type-S beater to drive...... if i MUST..lol
i will be required to build a bottom end for an f22 it i do blow i up..
so u think i will be good?
thanks
ooh yea one more quesion if you know
https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-accord-1990-2002-2/front-mount-intercooler-size-97-accord-good-fitment-w-o-hacking-my-bumper-2525542/
03-16-2009, 06:06 AM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
ooh yea one more question i guess i will ask extralargenog as well but he said STOCK rods?? really 400hp on stock rods? wow... he sounds like he def knows his **** so this suprises me...
03-16-2009, 01:21 PM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
theres a guy on cb7tuner.com that was pushing 22psi on a stock block with 200k on it. but that of course was on a REALLY good tune.
the MOST i would suggest to put on a stock F22a block would be 12psi. at about 8 you can be pushing better numbers than an H22 swap into your car. $1500-$2k for an H swap(unless you can find one for cheap in REAL good condition and you do the swap yourself). with $1700, you can be at at LEAST 190whp and about the same if not more TQ numbers with a boosted F. yeah sure out of the box the H22 comes with 190-200hp, but thats CRANK. to the wheels with I/H/E you'll be at MAYBE 180whp. then you have the crappy TQ numbers too. just like B series numbers. all that power. no torque.
ill always argue the power ratings of an H series compared to a boosted F. i just see its better to keep an F22a and boost it then spend $1200-$2k on an H swap and have to put in another $500+ to get some power out of it. $1500(including a good tune) and you can have your F22a at 200+whp and the same amount of torque, and in same cases, more.
these are taken from cb7tuner.com:
Straightedge - 402whp / 325wtq Holset@ 20psi F22a
Turbo90accord - 315 whp/ 297 wtq T3/T04 60-1@14.5psi F22a SOHC
Dep22build - 300 whp/315 wtq t3/t4 hybrid@16psi F22a1/h23 head
Chessboxer - 244whp/239wtq 14b@12 psi f22a1
quickangel93- 243whp/235wtq 14b@12psi f22a6/a1
youngJAY - 201whp/212wtrq 14b@ 8 psi f22a6
Quaidum-198whp/207wtq f22a6 sohc 13c turbo
91accordexr33 - 188whp/188wtq F22a4 sohc 16g@8psi auto trans
Mullet - 179whp/217wtq @10psi F22a SOHC
most are built, but with about 8-10psi on a STOCK block and bottom end, you can be in the 200whp range with the torque to match.
the MOST i would suggest to put on a stock F22a block would be 12psi. at about 8 you can be pushing better numbers than an H22 swap into your car. $1500-$2k for an H swap(unless you can find one for cheap in REAL good condition and you do the swap yourself). with $1700, you can be at at LEAST 190whp and about the same if not more TQ numbers with a boosted F. yeah sure out of the box the H22 comes with 190-200hp, but thats CRANK. to the wheels with I/H/E you'll be at MAYBE 180whp. then you have the crappy TQ numbers too. just like B series numbers. all that power. no torque.
ill always argue the power ratings of an H series compared to a boosted F. i just see its better to keep an F22a and boost it then spend $1200-$2k on an H swap and have to put in another $500+ to get some power out of it. $1500(including a good tune) and you can have your F22a at 200+whp and the same amount of torque, and in same cases, more.
these are taken from cb7tuner.com:
Straightedge - 402whp / 325wtq Holset@ 20psi F22a
Turbo90accord - 315 whp/ 297 wtq T3/T04 60-1@14.5psi F22a SOHC
Dep22build - 300 whp/315 wtq t3/t4 hybrid@16psi F22a1/h23 head
Chessboxer - 244whp/239wtq 14b@12 psi f22a1
quickangel93- 243whp/235wtq 14b@12psi f22a6/a1
youngJAY - 201whp/212wtrq 14b@ 8 psi f22a6
Quaidum-198whp/207wtq f22a6 sohc 13c turbo
91accordexr33 - 188whp/188wtq F22a4 sohc 16g@8psi auto trans
Mullet - 179whp/217wtq @10psi F22a SOHC
most are built, but with about 8-10psi on a STOCK block and bottom end, you can be in the 200whp range with the torque to match.
03-16-2009, 01:27 PM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
forgot to add this. you wanted dyno sheets? taken from cb7tuner.com again(im a mod up there. lol)
set up?
1992 ex 4dr frost white
210k engine
Ebay turbo kit
Log manifold
T3/t4 63ar
Large fmic
Hks ssqv knock
Dsm 450cc
2.5"DP
2.25 exhaust
S2k muffler(restriction)
Basemapped/partial street tune
set up?
1992 ex 4dr frost white
210k engine
Ebay turbo kit
Log manifold
T3/t4 63ar
Large fmic
Hks ssqv knock
Dsm 450cc
2.5"DP
2.25 exhaust
S2k muffler(restriction)
Basemapped/partial street tune
03-16-2009, 01:34 PM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
thats very simular to my set up..
t3/t4
log mani
dsm 450s
large Spearco FMIC
and thats exactly what kind of numbers im looking for and my motor is alot "younger" lol
only difference is i am going to get a good dyno tune.
t3/t4
log mani
dsm 450s
large Spearco FMIC
and thats exactly what kind of numbers im looking for and my motor is alot "younger" lol
only difference is i am going to get a good dyno tune.
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03-16-2009, 01:41 PM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
get a good tune and im sure you'll be above the 210 mark.
03-16-2009, 05:16 PM
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03-16-2009, 05:37 PM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
well i am pulling the h22 this weekend and i am collecting parts for the turbo so far i have:
Turbo
intercooler
dsm 450cc injectors
tial wastegate
ic piping
and i have 2g's do finish this project
Turbo
intercooler
dsm 450cc injectors
tial wastegate
ic piping
and i have 2g's do finish this project
03-16-2009, 07:16 PM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
since you have those parts already, you should be able to go to an exhaust shop and get one fabricated up there. and all you need now is a DSM manifold and a chipped p06 ECU.
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
i have search for this and i have found all the information that i need to come to my own conclusion but is there anyone here that has done a f22b2 with a f22b DOHC head swap and turboed it... with all that i have ran across researching the f22b head is almost the same as the h23 head.. but i can not find the specs of the head.. i have just got a 96 accord that i was going to put my 01 h22a4 in but after reading all the info on the f boosted i am going to leave my f22b2 in the car and add the f22b or h23a1 head. i have boosted a couple civics, so i am not the least bit scared to boost but i am looking for anyone that can give me the best head to run in my accord. i wish i had a f22a1 head laying around but all i have is a f22b and a h23a1. so three motors what is the best engine to make out of all of them. f22b2, f22b, and h23a1. thanks
03-16-2009, 08:50 PM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
theres a guy on cb7tuner.com that was pushing 22psi on
these are taken from cb7tuner.com:
Straightedge - 402whp / 325wtq Holset@ 20psi F22a
Turbo90accord - 315 whp/ 297 wtq T3/T04 60-1@14.5psi F22a SOHC
Dep22build - 300 whp/315 wtq t3/t4 hybrid@16psi F22a1/h23 head
Chessboxer - 244whp/239wtq 14b@12 psi f22a1
quickangel93- 243whp/235wtq 14b@12psi f22a6/a1
youngJAY - 201whp/212wtrq 14b@ 8 psi f22a6
Quaidum-198whp/207wtq f22a6 sohc 13c turbo
91accordexr33 - 188whp/188wtq F22a4 sohc 16g@8psi auto trans
Mullet - 179whp/217wtq @10psi F22a SOHC
most are built, but with about 8-10psi on a STOCK block and bottom end, you can be in the 200whp range with the torque to match.
these are taken from cb7tuner.com:
Straightedge - 402whp / 325wtq Holset@ 20psi F22a
Turbo90accord - 315 whp/ 297 wtq T3/T04 60-1@14.5psi F22a SOHC
Dep22build - 300 whp/315 wtq t3/t4 hybrid@16psi F22a1/h23 head
Chessboxer - 244whp/239wtq 14b@12 psi f22a1
quickangel93- 243whp/235wtq 14b@12psi f22a6/a1
youngJAY - 201whp/212wtrq 14b@ 8 psi f22a6
Quaidum-198whp/207wtq f22a6 sohc 13c turbo
91accordexr33 - 188whp/188wtq F22a4 sohc 16g@8psi auto trans
Mullet - 179whp/217wtq @10psi F22a SOHC
most are built, but with about 8-10psi on a STOCK block and bottom end, you can be in the 200whp range with the torque to match.
03-16-2009, 10:21 PM
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03-18-2009, 02:35 PM
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03-18-2009, 03:22 PM
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yes. the exhaust ports for the F22a and the F22b1 are different. if you look at the center ports, the ones on the f22b1 are together.
the exhaust ports on the F22a1 are separated:
they wont match up together. the F22a motors seem to flow better than the F22b1 motors tho. its been discussed and researched on cb7tuner.com plenty of times. you'll get a better gain from a F22a then you would a F22b1 due to the head and intake manifold designs.
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
i believe u can squeeze around 400hp out of low mileage f22b1 fully tuned with stand alone fuel management system. when i turbo my car next tax time in 2010 ill show u guyz, my goal is to run 11.99 in 1/4 mile with 94 full interior accord coupe ex with low mileage jdm f22b1, mods: comp clutch and 13lbs flywheel, bisimoto 1.2 turbo cam,cam gear valve spring and retainers,ported and polished throttle body and manifold,treadstone kit with ball bearing t3/t4 with full 3'' downpipe and exhaust plus quaife lsd with upgraded axles,hondata s300 full tuned. suspension wise I have everything they make for chassis, sway bars, strut bars polurethane bushings ,tein basic, ss brake line with 5.1 brake fluid, crossdrilled rotors with hps hawk pads and nitto neo gen tires on track ill be using slicks of course but this is what i'm shooting for.
03-19-2009, 03:45 AM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
well i will be using the f22b1 SOHC and i want to make 250whp and 250tq... so thanks for the info but i need to know if anyone have done this with the sohc f22b1
tia
tia
03-30-2009, 10:34 AM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
no one is giving any love to the f22b1?
no numbers on the f22b1?
i dont understand. the f22b1 makes more power stock.
no numbers on the f22b1?
i dont understand. the f22b1 makes more power stock.
03-30-2009, 10:47 AM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
true but it was made more for economy than for performance. talk to Boost_Lee on cb7tuner.com. he had a boosted F22b1 but he ended up swapping out for a F22a. they respond well to mods but the F22a head design out flows the F22b1 head.
03-30-2009, 10:55 AM
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Re: Stock F22 Hp limit? boosted.. dyno sheets?
94 Accord EX
F22B1 (BONE STOCK)
LSD mini tubular mani
t3/04e 57 trim
255/260 @10 PSI
305/307 @ 15 PSI.... 3 years ago. I beat the shiot out of it for 1-2 years and 40K miles.
Turned it up to 22 PSI without retunung it TRYING to blow it up before I pulled it for the built H but it wouldnt blow (well, oik i ****ed up the #4 ringland). Smoked like a bitch, but pulled HARD... Blew a coupler in half before I got to blow the motor up. ****, I actually sold the internals and **** too...
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