Most UNsafe Work Eithic...

MilwaukeeMotorwerks · 10-30-2008, 03:15 PM

I always find myself entertained with how terrible of ideas people have for things to do just to get the job done... lets see some of the most unsafe things done around a shop!

NIGHTRIDER27 · 10-30-2008, 03:35 PM

must need a bigger ladder.

ROTARY · 10-30-2008, 04:29 PM

Modified by ROTARY at 6:16 PM 10/30/2008

Modified by ROTARY at 6:17 PM 10/30/2008

dave@passenger · 10-30-2008, 05:11 PM

The ladder in the bucket and the two forklifts aren't that ghetto.

scartail · 10-30-2008, 05:48 PM

I think it took a lot of ***** to do what they did.

Without these crazy guys doing these crazy things, we wouldn't have many of the awesome things we have seen in history.

SovXietday · 10-30-2008, 07:18 PM

The one in the water isn't that big of a deal. If it falls, he only lands in a pool lol.

The truck... omg the truck. Wood, omg. Darwin where are you?

denske · 10-30-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SovXietday

The one in the water isn't that big of a deal. If it falls, he only lands in a pool lol.

yeah but, if he drops the drill, thats pluged in, into the pool, and hes standing on an aluminum ladder, that could be pretty bad, lol.

MilwaukeeMotorwerks · 10-30-2008, 07:23 PM

Except that hes using an electric drill thats plugged in.

TurbochargedInnovation · 10-30-2008, 07:26 PM

wow, some people just make ya wonder...

dave@passenger · 10-30-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by denske

yeah but, if he drops the drill, thats pluged in, into the pool, and hes standing on an aluminum ladder, that could be pretty bad, lol.

Dude its probably only 115v, that sh*t is for kids

Root of all Evil · 10-30-2008, 08:22 PM

[quote=dave@passenger]

Dude its probably only 115v, that sh*t is for kids

[/QUOTE

Nope, that is a resort down south and none of them use 115v. 240 phase to ground is the common voltage. I believe your being sarcastic anyways. I eat 347v for breakfast.

dr_latino999 · 10-30-2008, 08:42 PM

MilwaukeeMotorwerks · 10-31-2008, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dr_latino999

WTF is this thing?

Sage972 · 10-31-2008, 12:12 PM

Bantam · 10-31-2008, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by denske

yeah but, if he drops the drill, thats pluged in, into the pool, and hes standing on an aluminum ladder, that could be pretty bad, lol.

really dont understand how it is bad. drill drops in water, completes circuit, trips breaker, no worries?

Root of all Evil · 10-31-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tharptroy

really dont understand how it is bad. drill drops in water, completes circuit, trips breaker, no worries?

I don't think there would be enough voltage to electrify that much water. Bad idea in a bath tub though!

yellow_weapon · 10-31-2008, 01:47 PM

in russia you just got to do, what you got to do to get aircon

miguel329 · 10-31-2008, 02:54 PM

thats crazy!

SovXietday · 10-31-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by denske

yeah but, if he drops the drill, thats pluged in, into the pool, and hes standing on an aluminum ladder, that could be pretty bad, lol.

I still don't think dropping a drill into a pool is going to do much of anything besides kill the drill.

ranom01 · 10-31-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SovXietday

I still don't think dropping a drill into a pool is going to do much of anything besides kill the drill.

hes standing on a metal ladder, with no shoes on, metal conducts electricity, and wat happens when u touch somthing thats electified??

BigMoose · 11-01-2008, 04:41 AM

He IS at risk holding the drill. He is at NO risk if the drill drops in the water.... AND he stays on the ladder. Think about it. ... now tell me why.

Jvs10 · 11-01-2008, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMoose

He IS at risk holding the drill. He is at NO risk if the drill drops in the water.... AND he stays on the ladder. Think about it. ... now tell me why.

Because aluminum isn't a very good conductor perhaps?

Andy R · 11-01-2008, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMoose

He IS at risk holding the drill. He is at NO risk if the drill drops in the water.... AND he stays on the ladder. Think about it. ... now tell me why.

The electrical current is going to take the least resistive path to ground. If he drops the drill into the pool, the current is not going to want to travel from the pool water up the ladder then back down to the metal grounded drain at the bottom of the pool...its just going to go straight down to the drain.

Holding the drill, lets say he gets splashed and the drill's motor shorts to the case (which his hand is holding) then the current is going to take the path of his body...ladder...pool water...ground.

95greenlude · 11-01-2008, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by tharptroy

really dont understand how it is bad. drill drops in water, completes circuit, trips breaker, no worries?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SovXietday

I still don't think dropping a drill into a pool is going to do much of anything besides kill the drill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranom01

hes standing on a metal ladder, with no shoes on, metal conducts electricity, and wat happens when u touch somthing thats electified??

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMoose

He IS at risk holding the drill. He is at NO risk if the drill drops in the water.... AND he stays on the ladder. Think about it. ... now tell me why.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jvs10

Because aluminum isn't a very good conductor perhaps?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy R

The electrical current is going to take the least resistive path to ground. If he drops the drill into the pool, the current is not going to want to travel from the pool water up the ladder then back down to the metal grounded drain at the bottom of the pool...its just going to go straight down to the drain.

Holding the drill, lets say he gets splashed and the drill's motor shorts to the case (which his hand is holding) then the current is going to take the path of his body...ladder...pool water...ground.

DAMNIT THE PLANE WILL FLY!!!!!

Vadian · 11-01-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy R

The electrical current is going to take the least resistive path to ground. If he drops the drill into the pool, the current is not going to want to travel from the pool water up the ladder then back down to the metal grounded drain at the bottom of the pool...its just going to go straight down to the drain.

Holding the drill, lets say he gets splashed and the drill's motor shorts to the case (which his hand is holding) then the current is going to take the path of his body...ladder...pool water...ground.

You are mostly right, but there's a little more to it.

Electricity takes ALL paths to ground. Draw a simple 12v parallel circuit with several different resistors and figure out the current across each resistor. V=I x R You will see that there is current flow across each resistor regardless of its resistance value; 1 ohm or 1 million ohms.

This can be easily confusing, however. In order for current to flow, there must be two different points of potential. In this case, 120v and ground. While holding the drill, it gets wet and energizes its' case, then he WILL get shocked because he will be in between two different potentials; 120v (drill) and ground (water/ladder).

However, if the drill is dropped in the water, he won't get shocked because the ladder will become energized and his points of contact to the ladder (hands and feet) both become 120v potential. Since there is no difference, there is no current flow. Think of a bird perched on a overhead power line.

Sorry, the plane may now fly

It just really bothers me when someone may think they are safe just because they aren't the least resistive path to ground. This is so untrue. A person's only hope is that the system protection device, such as a GFCI, trips before too many cycles pass

Modified by Vadian at 2:06 AM 11/2/2008

10-30-2008, 03:15 PM	#1
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BigMoose Honda-Tech Member Garage is empty, add now Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Milky Way Posts: 1,024 iTrader Rating: (0)	Re: (ranom01) He IS at risk holding the drill. He is at NO risk if the drill drops in the water.... AND he stays on the ladder. Think about it. ... now tell me why. __________________ "Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God..." ...all the best BigMoose

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