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Auto to manual swap - ECU question. 98 Accord (6th gen)
03-21-2007, 07:57 PM
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Auto to manual swap - ECU question. 98 Accord (6th gen)
I'm doing an automatic to manual conversion on my 98 Accord (6th gen) and was wondering a few things.
One being the ECU....which manual ECU do I need (obd1, obd2)? I have an F23 motor. 2.3L VTEC....
Also, is there any need to reprogram the keys when the ECU is changed like that?
One being the ECU....which manual ECU do I need (obd1, obd2)? I have an F23 motor. 2.3L VTEC....
Also, is there any need to reprogram the keys when the ECU is changed like that?
03-22-2007, 05:44 AM
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Re: Auto to manual swap - ECU question. 98 Accord (98savage)
you need an OBD2 manual ECU, and yes you will have to have the keys reprogrammed to match the ECU.
03-22-2007, 06:01 AM
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Re: Auto to manual swap - ECU question. 98 Accord (98savage)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98savage »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm doing an automatic to manual conversion on my 98 Accord (6th gen) and was wondering a few things.
One being the ECU....which manual ECU do I need (obd1, obd2)? I have an F23 motor. 2.3L VTEC....
Also, is there any need to reprogram the keys when the ECU is changed like that?
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Make sure you get the VIN number off the car the 5-speed ecu came from. It'll make the immobilizer reprogramming much easier.
One being the ECU....which manual ECU do I need (obd1, obd2)? I have an F23 motor. 2.3L VTEC....
Also, is there any need to reprogram the keys when the ECU is changed like that?
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Make sure you get the VIN number off the car the 5-speed ecu came from. It'll make the immobilizer reprogramming much easier.
03-22-2007, 06:30 AM
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Re: Auto to manual swap - ECU question. 98 Accord (notoriousB)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by notoriousB »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you need an OBD2 manual ECU, and yes you will have to have the keys reprogrammed to match the ECU.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is right obd2b to be exact.
This is right obd2b to be exact.
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03-22-2007, 07:53 PM
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So once I do the swap, do I have to get my car towed over to Honda and get the keys reprogrammed so I can start the car? Also, any ideas on how much the programming will cost?
**Are all the ECU's from stock manuals the OBD2?**
Modified by 98savage at 5:04 AM 3/23/2007
**Are all the ECU's from stock manuals the OBD2?**
Modified by 98savage at 5:04 AM 3/23/2007
03-29-2007, 07:23 PM
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Re: (98savage)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98savage »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So once I do the swap, do I have to get my car towed over to Honda and get the keys reprogrammed so I can start the car? Also, any ideas on how much the programming will cost?
**Are all the ECU's from stock manuals the OBD2?**
Modified by 98savage at 5:04 AM 3/23/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, you can drive the car with the auto ecu in. The car will just be in limp mode. I paid $100 to have the immobilizer reprogrammed.
**Are all the ECU's from stock manuals the OBD2?**
Modified by 98savage at 5:04 AM 3/23/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, you can drive the car with the auto ecu in. The car will just be in limp mode. I paid $100 to have the immobilizer reprogrammed.
04-04-2007, 08:54 PM
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Re: Auto to manual swap - ECU question. 98 Accord (kidkloud_7)
You can still do the auto to manual swap with the V6. The parts you need are the same except you need the ones from the V6 model.
04-05-2007, 12:13 AM
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Re: Auto to manual swap - ECU question. 98 Accord (98savage)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98savage »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You use the CL 6 speed tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The wiring is a bit more involving though.
The wiring is a bit more involving though.
04-05-2007, 06:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stinker504 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can run the auto ECU. Just leave plug D out. That's what I did for a month befor messing with the AEM EMS.</TD></TR></TABLE>
How'd the car run like that?
The only that keeps me from jumping on doing this is the wiring, I haven't seen anyone do a decent/complete write up.
How'd the car run like that?
The only that keeps me from jumping on doing this is the wiring, I haven't seen anyone do a decent/complete write up.
04-05-2007, 08:31 AM
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I got the manual ECU anyways. I have to get it reprogrammed...no idea how I'm going to get it programmed then get it back to the shop. Or maybe the shop will take it to get it programmed.
04-05-2007, 10:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stinker504 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The car ran great. I didn't do many WOT runs since I wasn't tuned, but it was good enough to drive around town.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You sure just leaving the D plug out will work to run the manual tranny? If so, I will do it...it'll save me from getting the keys reprogrammed.
**Also, where is the D plug??
Modified by 98savage at 2:20 PM 4/5/2007
You sure just leaving the D plug out will work to run the manual tranny? If so, I will do it...it'll save me from getting the keys reprogrammed.
**Also, where is the D plug??
Modified by 98savage at 2:20 PM 4/5/2007
04-07-2007, 03:00 AM
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Re: Auto to manual swap - ECU question. 98 Accord (philadd)
will the cl tranny work?....i was told by a friend about that tranny but will it be easier to convert to a triptronic CL tranny or manuel Cl tranny?
04-07-2007, 04:58 PM
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Re: (98savage)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98savage »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
**Are all the ECU's from stock manuals the OBD2?**
Modified by 98savage at 5:04 AM 3/23/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
Any car 95 or 96 and newer is OBD2 no matter auto or manual. Has to do with the computer being different and the plug to access the computer.
In my state most OBD2 cars that go for emission just get plugged in and checked to see if the car has any emissions components not operating properly. OBD1 still needs to get on the rollers and sniff tested.
**Are all the ECU's from stock manuals the OBD2?**
Modified by 98savage at 5:04 AM 3/23/2007</TD></TR></TABLE>
Any car 95 or 96 and newer is OBD2 no matter auto or manual. Has to do with the computer being different and the plug to access the computer.
In my state most OBD2 cars that go for emission just get plugged in and checked to see if the car has any emissions components not operating properly. OBD1 still needs to get on the rollers and sniff tested.
04-09-2007, 04:39 PM
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Re: Auto to manual swap - ECU question. 98 Accord (kidkloud_7)
i ask acura about the cl tranny for the 01 and 99 model they only have auto triptronic and they dont sale them seprately.........................