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Old 09-03-2011 | 10:30 PM
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My shock towers are not cut lol

My lca have dented my exhaust flat so currently not driving the car till i fix that
Old 09-03-2011 | 10:55 PM
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i kinda wanna cheat and run side skirts with my ej so i look lower then i have to be
Old 09-03-2011 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by low&slow
My shock towers are not cut lol

My lca have dented my exhaust flat so currently not driving the car till i fix that
My buddy had his LCA almost close up the pipe. lol

He did have huge holes where the OEM uca's stuck up about a inch into the bay.

Are you shock towers dented?
Old 09-03-2011 | 11:00 PM
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My lca made my exhaust flat hahaha
Nope no dents the uca wont hit the shock tower unless I hit a bump on the road hard other then that they won't hit suspension is nice and stiff
Old 09-03-2011 | 11:05 PM
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Wow, my buddy with 650F couldn't hit the slightest bump without hearing them bang into the shock towers.

He now has a bent left knuckle, with gaint holes in the shock towers, If i had my camera card I'd post pic's.
Old 09-03-2011 | 11:36 PM
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Camera phone pix ftw hahaha

My shock towers don't have any dents or anything but I havnt looked at my uca in a while I'm a have to look at them soon
Old 09-04-2011 | 08:42 AM
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pics don't load?
Old 09-04-2011 | 09:58 AM
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No cracks on the shock tower and your lower than I am?? Here are my modified shock towers on my Em-1. The only way people get away with having no cracks is running both high spring rates, and stiff valving with the stock UCA. My cracks started to form after I installed my Skunk2 original front camber kit. It was making small cracks that kinda look like small dimples. To make sure I don't have any cracks in the future since the engine bay is being redone we took the time to modifiy the shock towers to give me more clearance with a camber kit or no camber kit. We cut out the shock towers and made our own metal housing which was then welded on. I don't recommend a front camber kit unless you need the adjustment like I do to get more negative camber. The other reason I chose to do this was the extra clearance lets me run spring rates as well as valving that is more street friendly. My car rides great for how low I am, but as someone stated what low is back then isn't quite low enough today. I still give a crap about how my car looks like underneath as well as how it rides.

I run a full 3 inch exhaust, and my rear lower control arms do sometimes hit my aftermarket LCA's on occasion.

Before


After


Cut out to see the UCA Location and Range As you can see it is pretty much inevitable.



Dent- Stock UCA-this is the type of dent/cracks it makes when running factory UCA


Dent-After market Camber Kit-Skunk2, Buddy Club, Ksport, that style usually forms dimple cracks above from the corners of the square boxed ends they have.


Do not get the impression just because you run the factory UCA you will not crack the shock towers. Everyone will have dents or cracks to a certail degree when lowering. The number 1 culprit is because of how low the car is period. In order to decrease or prevent it from happening as much as possible you really need to run higher spring rates, with stiff valving especially with a unmodified shock tower. I have racers who run spring rates of 950lbs up front and there UCA still hits the shock towers on occasion at the track. I have also seen cars that are not lowered form small cracks up there on occasion as well..those are rare though. If your going to ride low, do it right. It's a shame when I go to a car show and see cracked shock towers. When I was judging car shows that was certainly a point deduction. You have a great stance, all these mods, fresh paint, yet you can't fix your shock towers??

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Old 09-05-2011 | 12:00 PM
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^Thats a really nice mod! I going to assume that the hood will not close without a mod as well?
Old 09-05-2011 | 12:16 PM
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no top hats, uca havnt dented the shock towers yet
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Old 09-05-2011 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rallypoint_1
^Thats a really nice mod! I going to assume that the hood will not close without a mod as well?
No mods to my hood was done, there isn't any clearance issues or I would not have done it at all.
Old 09-05-2011 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy@AMR
No mods to my hood was done, there isn't any clearance issues or I would not have done it at all.
That's fantastic!!
Old 09-05-2011 | 08:46 PM
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current height on the godspeed coils still ride smooth
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Old 09-06-2011 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by low&slow
current height on the godspeed coils still ride smooth
That's beyond impossible. There's no such thing as "dumped" and smooth. My car would only be considered "mildly" lowered and my ride isn't "smooth." And my spring rates are only 350lbs/Front and 350lbs/Rear. My ride isn't "rough" but I certainly notice every bump in the road. However I've still got plenty of suspension travel.

Godspeed coilovers, from what I understand, have very unusual rates of 12k/6k which amounts to 674lbs/front and 337lbs/rear.

The rates that accompany a dumped ride, not to mention the reduced suspension travel does not equate to what any normal person would call a "smooth" ride.

Just because you can tolerate it doesn't mean it's "smooth." You've not pulling wool over anyones eyes claiming that your impractical ride height feels anything close to "smooth."
Old 09-06-2011 | 03:40 PM
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lowandslow, how are you that low and not hitting the tie rods on frame? is it the low pro tires?
Old 09-06-2011 | 09:56 PM
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Pull the inner fender wells out.
Old 09-06-2011 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Libertariat
That's beyond impossible. There's no such thing as "dumped" and smooth. My car would only be considered "mildly" lowered and my ride isn't "smooth." And my spring rates are only 350lbs/Front and 350lbs/Rear. My ride isn't "rough" but I certainly notice every bump in the road. However I've still got plenty of suspension travel.

Godspeed coilovers, from what I understand, have very unusual rates of 12k/6k which amounts to 674lbs/front and 337lbs/rear.

The rates that accompany a dumped ride, not to mention the reduced suspension travel does not equate to what any normal person would call a "smooth" ride.

Just because you can tolerate it doesn't mean it's "smooth." You've not pulling wool over anyones eyes claiming that your impractical ride height feels anything close to "smooth."
its smooth son trust ive had about every honda makes and been on a bunch of different suspension set ups from buddy club coils to skunk2 coils tein coils etc etc and these godspeed coils ride smooth as **** dosnt bounce everywhere, dosnt bottom out, etc etc they ride smooth best bang for u buck coils i could say glad i went with these

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lowandslow, how are you that low and not hitting the tie rods on frame? is it the low pro tires?
actually idk ive never even look at my tie rods

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does anyone have pictures of their inner fenders? how much cutting is everyone doing?
i still have mine all in tack didnt have 2 remove it
Old 09-06-2011 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by low&slow
its smooth son trust ive had about every honda makes and been on a bunch of different suspension set ups from buddy club coils to skunk2 coils tein coils etc etc and these godspeed coils ride smooth as **** dosnt bounce everywhere, dosnt bottom out, etc etc they ride smooth best bang for u buck coils i could say glad i went with these



actually idk ive never even look at my tie rods



i still have mine all in tack didnt have 2 remove it
Well I've been riding slammed for a while and just recently decided to lower my car more and just today actually I noticed I was rubbin the tie rods against the frame only when I turned tho. Plus the tire was hittin the top of the fender well. So I raised it back up
Old 09-06-2011 | 11:42 PM
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im a look at that 2morrow actually now i want to see haha
i cut the pinch weld ur talking about i cut and then hit it with a hammer till it got flat
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Old 09-06-2011 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by low&slow
im a look at that 2morrow actually now i want to see haha
i cut the pinch weld ur talking about i cut and then hit it with a hammer till it got flat

Damn that's intense. Yea I nvr used to rub that til now. I took a pic today. I don't think I can upload it from my phone. but I've heard about that. Thought about doin it. I need some lower profile tires if I wanna lower it again. I'll try to post up pics tomorrow.
Old 09-06-2011 | 11:57 PM
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just make little cuts like 2" apart from each other all the way down the weld them just beat it with a heavy hammer till it gets flat

then u can go lower

i went lower on my hatch a little while ago
Old 09-07-2011 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by low&slow
just make little cuts like 2" apart from each other all the way down the weld them just beat it with a heavy hammer till it gets flat

then u can go lower

i went lower on my hatch a little while ago
Alright yeah I think I'll try that. Cuz I wana lower it back down but the rubbing wasn't worth it. Just didn't wanna cut my tire. Should be a good project since I'm off the next 2 days. U don't rub the fenders when u turn?
Old 09-07-2011 | 12:05 AM
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there u go man u got ur self a project 2 do

im currently doing a wire tuck and polishing anything i can polish under the hood like a/c etc etc etc

and nope i dont rub when i turn i got a lot of room between my fenders and tires (stock camber)
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Old 09-07-2011 | 12:08 AM
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Hope it comes out well. Good luck man.
Old 09-07-2011 | 12:11 AM
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Yeah I used to only rub when turning excessively which was never but now turnin the slightest bit it rubs. But I'm tuckin a lot of tire and got the stock size tires too.


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