N/A B18C1 Build
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N/A B18C1 Build Rotating Assy. Complete w/Pics
Engine Specs: Clearances Etc.
Piston Ring End Gap:
Top Compression Ring: .011" honda Spec: .008" - .014"
Second Compression Ring: .016" Honda Spec: .016" - .022"
Oil Rings: .008" Honda Spec: .008" - .020"
Piston Pin Weight: 85g
Piston Weight: 291g
Piston Dome Volume: 7.45cc
Main Bearing Clearances:
Honda Spec 1, 2, 4 & 5
.0009 - .0017
Result: .0015" for 2 , 4 / 1 & 5 ?
Honda Spec #3
.0012 - .0019"
Result: .0015"
Rod Bearing Clearances:
Honda Spec: .0013" - .0020"
Piston Diameter:81.5 mm Pistons
#1 , 2, 4 - 3.2050"
#3 3.2052"
PTW (Piston to Wall Clearance) Endyn Spec - .0026" -.027"
Block Bored to. 3.2076"
PTW = .0026"
Head Milled: .004"
Block Decked: .002"
2 Layer HG: .45mm
Static CR: 12.5:1
Result: .0016" ? i cant remember that well.
Combustion Chamber Volume: 41.3 cc, stock 41.6
Setup: Updated 5/23/06
-Endyn "Rollerwave" Pistons 81.5mm
-12.5:1 Static CR
-Skunk2 Stage 2 Cams
-Supertech Dual Valvesprings
-Supertech Race Valves Nitride Coated High Compression
-Supertech Magnease Bronze Valve Guides
-Supertech Titanium Retainers
-Alaniz "Competition" Cylinder Head Port
-Skunk2 Intake Manifold
-Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
-AEBS Head Studs
-ARP Rod Bolts
-Spoon HG .45mm
-Milled .003"
-OEM Main & Rod Bearings & Thrust Washers
-OEM Bottom End Gasket Kit
-64mm TB Taper Bore
Fuel And Tuning:
-Walbro 190lph
-P28 ECU w/ HONDATA s300
-R/C 310's
-PLX M-300 Wideband
Overall Goal of 180-210 WHP and mid 13sec car.
Well heres some pics, all the rest i took didnt turn out right at all.
Update 3/15/05
Main Bearing Clearances
Well its been awhile since i last posted on this thread, so i finally got some plastigauge from the shop and decided to check the Main Bearing Clearances...
Main Bearing To Journal Oil Clearances # 1,2,4 & 5 Journals .0009 - .0017"
# 3 Journal - .0012 - .0019" ( Service Limit 1,2,4,&5 .020", and #3 .0024")
Main # 1 .0015"
Main # 2 .0015"
Main # 3. 0015"
Main # 4 .0015"
Main # 5 .0015"
Seems to be all the clearances are well in Honda spec.
Went ahead and also found out what kind of bearings needed..
Letters Stamped On Block: BCBDD
Numbers On Crankshaft: 4 3 3 3 2
Results:
Brown, Brown, Green, Black, Green
Connecting Rod Bearings:
Letters Stamped On Crank: C C C C
Numbers Stamped On Rod: 3 3 3 3
Results:
All Brown
Main Bearing Set
2.013-2.010 mm 0.0793"-0.0791"
2.010-2.007 mm 0.0791"-0.0790"
2.007-2.004 mm 0.0790"-0.0789"
2.004-2.001 mm 0.0789"-0.0788"
2.001-1.998 mm 0.0788"-0.0787"
1.998-1.995 mm 0.0787"-0.0785"
1.995-1.922 mm 0.0785"-0.0757"
Conrod Bearing Set
1.510-1.507 mm 0.0594"-0.0593"
1.507-1.504 mm 0.0593"-0.0592"
1.504-1.501 mm 0.0592"-0.0591"
1.501-1.498 mm 0.0591"-0.0590"
1.498-1.495 mm 0.0590"-0.0589"
1.495-1.492 mm 0.0589"-0.0587"
1.492-1.489 mm 0.0587"-0.0586"
Modified by JH4DC4-2GSR at 8:03 PM 6/4/2005
Modified by JH4DC4-2GSR at 6:10 PM 6/5/2005
Modified by JH4DC4-2GSR at 6:00 PM 10/6/2005
Modified by Yambor at 8:12 PM 5/23/2006
Modified by Yambor at 7:15 PM 7/6/2006
Piston Ring End Gap:
Top Compression Ring: .011" honda Spec: .008" - .014"
Second Compression Ring: .016" Honda Spec: .016" - .022"
Oil Rings: .008" Honda Spec: .008" - .020"
Piston Pin Weight: 85g
Piston Weight: 291g
Piston Dome Volume: 7.45cc
Main Bearing Clearances:
Honda Spec 1, 2, 4 & 5
.0009 - .0017
Result: .0015" for 2 , 4 / 1 & 5 ?
Honda Spec #3
.0012 - .0019"
Result: .0015"
Rod Bearing Clearances:
Honda Spec: .0013" - .0020"
Piston Diameter:81.5 mm Pistons
#1 , 2, 4 - 3.2050"
#3 3.2052"
PTW (Piston to Wall Clearance) Endyn Spec - .0026" -.027"
Block Bored to. 3.2076"
PTW = .0026"
Head Milled: .004"
Block Decked: .002"
2 Layer HG: .45mm
Static CR: 12.5:1
Result: .0016" ? i cant remember that well.
Combustion Chamber Volume: 41.3 cc, stock 41.6
Setup: Updated 5/23/06
-Endyn "Rollerwave" Pistons 81.5mm
-12.5:1 Static CR
-Skunk2 Stage 2 Cams
-Supertech Dual Valvesprings
-Supertech Race Valves Nitride Coated High Compression
-Supertech Magnease Bronze Valve Guides
-Supertech Titanium Retainers
-Alaniz "Competition" Cylinder Head Port
-Skunk2 Intake Manifold
-Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
-AEBS Head Studs
-ARP Rod Bolts
-Spoon HG .45mm
-Milled .003"
-OEM Main & Rod Bearings & Thrust Washers
-OEM Bottom End Gasket Kit
-64mm TB Taper Bore
Fuel And Tuning:
-Walbro 190lph
-P28 ECU w/ HONDATA s300
-R/C 310's
-PLX M-300 Wideband
Overall Goal of 180-210 WHP and mid 13sec car.
Well heres some pics, all the rest i took didnt turn out right at all.
Update 3/15/05
Main Bearing Clearances
Well its been awhile since i last posted on this thread, so i finally got some plastigauge from the shop and decided to check the Main Bearing Clearances...
Main Bearing To Journal Oil Clearances # 1,2,4 & 5 Journals .0009 - .0017"
# 3 Journal - .0012 - .0019" ( Service Limit 1,2,4,&5 .020", and #3 .0024")
Main # 1 .0015"
Main # 2 .0015"
Main # 3. 0015"
Main # 4 .0015"
Main # 5 .0015"
Seems to be all the clearances are well in Honda spec.
Went ahead and also found out what kind of bearings needed..
Letters Stamped On Block: BCBDD
Numbers On Crankshaft: 4 3 3 3 2
Results:
Brown, Brown, Green, Black, Green
Connecting Rod Bearings:
Letters Stamped On Crank: C C C C
Numbers Stamped On Rod: 3 3 3 3
Results:
All Brown
Main Bearing Set
2.013-2.010 mm 0.0793"-0.0791"
2.010-2.007 mm 0.0791"-0.0790"
2.007-2.004 mm 0.0790"-0.0789"
2.004-2.001 mm 0.0789"-0.0788"
2.001-1.998 mm 0.0788"-0.0787"
1.998-1.995 mm 0.0787"-0.0785"
1.995-1.922 mm 0.0785"-0.0757"
Conrod Bearing Set
1.510-1.507 mm 0.0594"-0.0593"
1.507-1.504 mm 0.0593"-0.0592"
1.504-1.501 mm 0.0592"-0.0591"
1.501-1.498 mm 0.0591"-0.0590"
1.498-1.495 mm 0.0590"-0.0589"
1.495-1.492 mm 0.0589"-0.0587"
1.492-1.489 mm 0.0587"-0.0586"
Modified by JH4DC4-2GSR at 8:03 PM 6/4/2005
Modified by JH4DC4-2GSR at 6:10 PM 6/5/2005
Modified by JH4DC4-2GSR at 6:00 PM 10/6/2005
Modified by Yambor at 8:12 PM 5/23/2006
Modified by Yambor at 7:15 PM 7/6/2006
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Re: N/A B18C1 Build (JH4DC4-2GSR)
UPDATE: 5/29/05
Well i have assembled the bottom end ,everything besides the pistons and rods, because i still waiting on my rod bearings to arrive from AZ. DHL takes 8 days to get them here, my AEBS Head Studs From CA and the rod bolts pressed in and rods resized along with wrist pins pressed in.
The build has went flawlessly so far and the crank turns beautifully. I installed new front and rear main seals also. I am using a craftsman toqrue wrench, the twist type, and tuesay after work i am bringing home my snap on dial type so i know for a fact that i am getting the correct torque.
Here are some pics of the install:
Checking ring gap, right on @ .009"
The B18C1
Plastigauge Results
My Room
Assembled
I dont want to hear it about the bed, i took the covers off so they wouldnt get dirty so yea.. I like em anyway..
[ops:]
I have more pics i will post later on in the week..
Well i have assembled the bottom end ,everything besides the pistons and rods, because i still waiting on my rod bearings to arrive from AZ. DHL takes 8 days to get them here, my AEBS Head Studs From CA and the rod bolts pressed in and rods resized along with wrist pins pressed in.
The build has went flawlessly so far and the crank turns beautifully. I installed new front and rear main seals also. I am using a craftsman toqrue wrench, the twist type, and tuesay after work i am bringing home my snap on dial type so i know for a fact that i am getting the correct torque.
Here are some pics of the install:
Checking ring gap, right on @ .009"
The B18C1
Plastigauge Results
My Room
Assembled
I dont want to hear it about the bed, i took the covers off so they wouldnt get dirty so yea.. I like em anyway..
[ops:]
I have more pics i will post later on in the week..
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Re: N/A B18C1 Build (Mr.RHTuner)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr.RHTuner »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very nice man </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks man. Im kinda of throwing this thread together with posts from other threads that i did. Its sort of in order.. I have more pics i can post once i get the rods back and such.
Thanks man. Im kinda of throwing this thread together with posts from other threads that i did. Its sort of in order.. I have more pics i can post once i get the rods back and such.
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Well i got back from the shop and he said that he can have the rods resized, rod bolts pressed in, wrist pins pressed in and ready by wednesday, that works out well because my rod bearings should be here by the third. that is the only thing holding me from completing the rotating assy.
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Re: (808_si)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 808_si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice setup, engine block in your room. LoL.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I like it work where u can!
I like it work where u can!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GreenGeezer01 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice setup, but have you planned out how to get it out of your room already? Just a thought </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes they tend to get a bit heavy once assembled
on the build!
Yes they tend to get a bit heavy once assembled
on the build!
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Lol, get this, theres 13 stairs too!
Im pretty sure me and my dad can carry the block assembled downstairs, when i say assembled i mean. crank, rods pistons, oil pump etc. without the oil pan etc..
thanks for the responses..
Im pretty sure me and my dad can carry the block assembled downstairs, when i say assembled i mean. crank, rods pistons, oil pump etc. without the oil pan etc..
thanks for the responses..
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Re: (JH4DC4-2GSR)
Heres some pics of the pistons and rods resized with arp bolts...The caps have been put on ,and torqued to 40ft lbs 3 times, ( so the resizing can be done to the most accuracy)also the last time i put them on, i only need to torque it once and then check clearances.. he said he will lossen up the caps , as seen, because he said with arp bolts the caps are a pain to get off.. Come on Friday! Get paid and i get bearings!! woo hoot!!
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I have a DC Sports JDM ITR 4-1, on my ls now, and thats what i plan to use on this motor..
until i can save up for a nice header from smsp, hytech, or similar..
until i can save up for a nice header from smsp, hytech, or similar..
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Re: (Lil Corb)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lil Corb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">great info , keep us updated</TD></TR></TABLE>Super clean setup.....good luck with everything!!
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Re: (redGSRguy)
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Thanks alot. I finally got my computer back today and i have some new pics of the bottom end assembled.
UPDATE 6/4/05
I had my rods the wrong way, so i ended up getting them flipped around for free, but other than that its been going very well..
I dropped the head off today...
Plans: (*) I have in possesion
-Milled .005"
-Skunk2 Dual Valvesprings *
-Skunk Titanium Retainers - ordering this week
-Spoon 2-Layer HG
-AEBS Head Studs *
-Skunk2 or Omnipower Valves
-OEM Honda Valve Seals *
-Bronze Valve guides if i feel stock ones are not good enough...
Will post pics later...
Thanks alot. I finally got my computer back today and i have some new pics of the bottom end assembled.
UPDATE 6/4/05
I had my rods the wrong way, so i ended up getting them flipped around for free, but other than that its been going very well..
I dropped the head off today...
Plans: (*) I have in possesion
-Milled .005"
-Skunk2 Dual Valvesprings *
-Skunk Titanium Retainers - ordering this week
-Spoon 2-Layer HG
-AEBS Head Studs *
-Skunk2 or Omnipower Valves
-OEM Honda Valve Seals *
-Bronze Valve guides if i feel stock ones are not good enough...
Will post pics later...
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Update: 6/04/05
I have the rotating assy. completed. Went very well, checked clearances and all.. I just got the computer back today and figured i post some pics...I also found out that the suit bags or w.e you would like to call them from jc penny's that i used for my grad suit comes in very helpful while laying out parts and keeping the area clean..
I also dropped the head off today.. So all he is waiting on is me dropping off parts.. I fully disassembled the head last night to cut down on labor costs...
But on with the pics.. I have alot so i will post some at a time..
ummmm Peerrtyy..
Complete!
Endplay at minimal honda spec! gotta love it...
I have the rotating assy. completed. Went very well, checked clearances and all.. I just got the computer back today and figured i post some pics...I also found out that the suit bags or w.e you would like to call them from jc penny's that i used for my grad suit comes in very helpful while laying out parts and keeping the area clean..
I also dropped the head off today.. So all he is waiting on is me dropping off parts.. I fully disassembled the head last night to cut down on labor costs...
But on with the pics.. I have alot so i will post some at a time..
ummmm Peerrtyy..
Complete!
Endplay at minimal honda spec! gotta love it...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philafelman »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just dont be cheap with rod bearings...i learned that the hard way. calico coated </TD></TR></TABLE>
Shiat Son, OEM Honda Rod Bearings Here..
and my room!
Shiat Son, OEM Honda Rod Bearings Here..
and my room!