TheShodan

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Noted.

NipTucked

What rotors are you using?

miamirice

Centric. $24 on rockauto

TeamNextGenChris

Any more track guys with a direct comparison of these over OEM 10.3"/11.1" setups? I need rotors, pads and to rebuild my calipers before my next trackday, so this is the perfect time for an upgrade!

I was sold on the Mini/ITR setup, but just saw this Wilwood kit, and I'm intrigued. I'm looking solely at overall stopping power and feel(for the same given pad compound). One big thing that stands out to me is the Wilwood pad looks to have a good bit less surface area than the Integra pad.
Any input? Thanks!

Honda Type R

The pad size is something that crossed my mind as well. Less pad means less heat capacity which means you may need to run a more aggressive pad compound to keep from overheating is what I want to think but I'm no expert by any means. Also the smaller rotor means less brake torque so I would think less actual power. But maybe the extra caliper power makes up for it.

These are all things I've thought about and I've been waiting to see if miamirice posts more updates but I think he's enjoying his brakes too much to care lol

TeamNextGenChris

Haha, maybe so!
I'm still on the 10.3" rotors, so either way should be an upgrade for me. I honestly think the Mini/ITR is the way to go, but I do wonder if the Wilwood caliper is maybe a little stiffer, and would provide more feel.

Also, is anybody here knowledgeable enough to compare the total piston area of the Wilwood versus ITR calipers, as far as clamping power, pedal height, etc?
I'd assume the DPHA has more total piston area than the ITR. All other things being equal, won't that result in a lower pedal and bias shifted slightly to the rear?

I've got about a month before I need to make a decision, so hopefully we can get more feedback before then.

*** And, is there any way to edit the thread title to "Wilwood" and not "Wildwood"? That drives me crazy, lol. When searching, I didn't find this very useful thread until I pursposely searched for the wrong spelling.

TheShodan

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Someone must have used a phone with spell-correct when making this title. It's starting to happen more and more often, as keyboard typing skills continue to decline.

miamirice

Guilty as charged on the spell correct. Maybe the moderator can fix it.

I have about 9-10 sprints worth of racing and now need to change pads. I see earlier spider cracking on my rotors which COULD MEAN temps have been higher with use of the willwoods.

I kept my ITR reman set up as a spare but won't be going back to them. The willwood clearly have better feel. Maybe the smaller rotor and pad are actually helping prevent my lockup issue.....I don't know. But I like the feel on these much better. Again I am using a 1" MC. Pedal height is a little better, firmer and engagement point is better. I do think you will use more rotors and pads....but the price on both is a bargain, pads are like $120 for the polymatrix B. So increased replacement for me is still cheaper in the long haul.

ReDemoN

Just wish Hawk would make some pads.
I have $75 i just won through contingency.

Agent_Smith

is anyone else using the Wilwood DPHA calipers & pads with an 11"+ rotor?
maybe using a fastbrake kit for mounting?

are you using a fastbrake mounting kit or how are you clearing 11" rotors"? Mini, Prelude, ITR, or legend rotors?

jelcivic

I wonder if you asked someone at Hawk if they have the pad plate #7812 in any of the compounds you are wanting. Cabotech sells that pad plate in their compounds. I didn't find anything on PFC. I found that Hawk has pads starting in HB542 share the same size but I didn't find a thickness.

When I was looking at track pads, I have a friend who deals and loves PFC. We couldn't find on the shelf PFC for my Spoon calipers. We were told that if we purchased 10 sets they could put whatever compound on the pad plate since the pad plate is a common size.

NipTucked

I just purchased the DPHA's watiting for my pads to install.....I did find hawk pads for these calipers. I got them through porterfield-brakes.com, search part# 7812.

rice4life

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glad i found this post. i was looking at removing the wilwood Dynapro 6 piston bbk front and rear and installing oem integra front and rear brakes on the 89 crx si. because the dynapro requires 16" wheels. and we want to seriously track the car now. so 15" wheels are better choice for tires. so i think well go with DPHA calipers instead of integra. cheaper pads in the long run. we can get hawk pads at good price if anyone is interested.

hawk HB542G.490 DTC60 are .49' thick, same thickness as wilwood pads for DPHA. hawk HB542G.600 are .6' thick. wonder if they would fit the DPHA calipers with rotors. would be nice if the thicker pads fit, since they are same price.

ReDemoN

I have to order through Hawk for the Contingency.
I guess I could call them

flip_nl

Don't know if this already has been posted, but stumbled upon this page:

Black Art Dynamics - Threshold Braking Bias Calculator (Honda)

Could provide a ball park figure on which brake setup would suitable to your needs.

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Personally I'm running the ITR 98 spec setup with CL8 pads.

TheShodan

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I'll be using a custom set with a 12.2" Rotor set thanks to Brian@FastBrakes.

I'll keep you posted.

rice4life

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anyone know if DPHA calipers will fit 89 crx si with b18c swap. i ordered a set today and they said there's no applications for 89 crx. just need to know if i need to change knuckles.

NipTucked

Got the me installed, everything fits nicely! Have only tested on the street while bedding the pads and they bite very well. Will probably need brake ducts eventually.

rice4life

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i got the DPHA calipers today also. here's a comparison between wilwood 6 pistons 12.2" rotors vs DPHA and 10.2" rotor. also Enkei PF01 15x8 +35 wheels fitment.

rice4life

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Here's the pad size difference between the 6 pistons and DPHA calipers. The smaller pad is for DPHA.

TheShodan

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Curious. Why the switch to the smaller system?

rice4life

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To fit 15" wheels for better tires selections for racing.

rice4life

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i have a brand new set of hawk HB542G.490 DTC60 pads for DPHA calipers for $80 shipped if anyone is interested. too much torque for the street tires i'm running. i bought a new set for backup but i want to go to lower compound.

TheShodan

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I see. I can't run a 15" on the TA Integra. I'm running a minimum 16" street and 17" Circuit, still working with the Master at FastBrakes in proper rotor size selection. More than likely a 12.4" RS7 Mini-Cooper.

donut.

This fellas 6 piston clear's 15's. Not sure what he did different