that_dc5_kid

i have my 02 rsx type s and i just have some questions about stuff that im sure you guys can help me out with

Driven

Calling Captain Vague, Captain Vague, can you please come in?

Xian

Appears that he's already made an appearance...

JuggerNaut-CTR

What might this "stuff" be that you speak of?....

NZXTInerTia

Your car has four intake runners, does that answer your question?

liam821

Motec exhaust

Caoboy

Oh I get it, this is one of those "tell me the answer and I'll ask you the question" threads.

Agent_Smith

craigslist.org, sell car, start over with a new platform.

dirty19

iTrader: (1)

I'll plus one for that!

No really dooooood whats your questions... the suspense is killing me.

that_dc5_kid

sorry this was a spur of the moment post and anyways is this cars worth building more or should i start over with a new platform. I will Daily the car but i also want it to be track able and autocross able. I have autocrossed the rsx and it was alright even though the d2 suspension is **** and i havent put a rear sway bar on it yet or really anything for that matter.

StatGSR

um....

B_Swapped93

LOLz^


OP just leave it as a DD if you're asking a question as broad as this. I think you just want to say you have a "track car" even tho it's stanced/mexiflush.

flip_nl

"Track car" is the new stance.

that_dc5_kid

No... I hate all the stance ****. I am just getting into tracking my car I did a full autocross season last year and I signed up for some track days next year at mid ohio and Putnam Park I was just wondering if this car is a good platform because it's just kinda heavy and understeers (as it is right now)

ownedevo10

Any car can be a good platform to start with. Guys with stock civics track their cars. What class are you planning on running? Read the rules and it will tell you what you can do to the car and what you cant and then the questions should go from there. If your happy with the car then build it. If you not sell it and buy something else. Dont ask opinions because everyone has different opinions, its what you want to do not what others tell you what to do.

that_dc5_kid

thats kinda why i am asking this because im not a huge fan of the car it is heavy and understeers and just feels numb all around. i mean i hade a 97 civic with an itr swap and i just felt like that car was more of a drivers car like it was more basic so it felt like i could feel the car the rsx is kinda just boring. and im not sure ive never done a track day ive only done autocross with nasa which i was classed in d class. but anyways back to my civic point that car had a heck of alot less money and parts into it and it was 1 alot faster 2 alot more fun to drive but i was just wondering if rsx's were any good on tracks becuase i see civics and integras and s2000's is honda challenge all the time but i never see an rsx and i know theyre allowed but no one runs them which kinda just hints that theyre not worth it.

Xian

In broad terms... you're right. The RSX is far from ideal for anything outside DD use. Poor suspension design and relatively heavy. Great engine but that's about it. Can one pinch hit as a DD and sometimes track car? Sure but it'll be more difficult to get it to handle well than any of the EF, EG, or EK Civics or DA/DC Integra.

Gmedalion

I agree with Xian. Anything can work if you put time into it but the Eg/dc is my choice. If you like the RSX sell yours and buy this one.

http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic....439500#p439500

that_dc5_kid

i completely agree with you. I have the type r engine which is amazing but the car is just heavy and just handles very lazily. So i guess the decision now is ef, eg, ek, or dc haha

Xian

And to be clear, the RSX just plain old won't handle as well as the earlier cars. The geometry is f00ked. It can be made to suck less but it'll still be an engine in search of a chassis...

As far as which other chassis to go with, it depends. The DC is, IMO the sweet spot in the lineup for a street/track car whereas the EF's are going to be the lightest while the EG's split the difference.

that_dc5_kid

What about ek's I had one and it did alright at autocross and I see them on the track all the time

mattbatson

my opinion is this...

keep it simple and work on your driving.

put a bigger rear sway bar on the rsx and mess with the alignment and take it out for your track days.

those mods are cheap and will help with the understeer...and you can sell the rear sway bar later if you want

keep the car you have until you are sure you want to go road racing, then you will need to figure out which car will fit and win in the class you have chosen
and you will want to buy a built race car anyways as it is much cheaper

who cares if the car understeers...learn to drive it like it is. Learn all the in's and out's of driving fast...and not just how to drive fast, but how to do it well

you are doing track days, so there isn't a 3 dollar plastic cup to win, so just enjoy it and hone your skills for now.

that_dc5_kid

i agree with you completely, my question is should i buy a car now and learn more with that car that i will actually keep for a longer time. Because the rsx is expensive to upgrade and to get fast. So something like a civic crx or integra will be 1 alot cheaper, and easier to upgrade 2 easier to get to handle better. So what im thinking would it be smarter to get a different car now to learn on that will be better in the long run so i dont have to learn and get better at driving the understeery rsx.

mattbatson

you can do this, however...before you change to a different car, you need to decide from now which class you want to run in.
If you are running NASA or SCCA or chumpcar or whatever, you need to do the research to see if the class is popular (you don't want to be running with two other cars all season) and if there are races nearby in that club on a regular basis...what is the hot car to have or what would be competitive, etc.

so , you need to start there.

then, we can answer your questions.

one thing also...learning how to drive your rsx will translate to other cars just fine.
and a big rear sway and some neg camber up front and less camber in rear will remove much of the understeer anyways.

dirty19

iTrader: (1)

Your thinking is skewed here.

Its not the car that fast, it the driver that makes the car fast.
You can take an experienced driver and put him behind the wheel of your car, and he will use his skill to make that car go fast.
Its the driver who manipulates the car not the other way around.

Do what Matt says and use what you have... you'll learn more from driving a slightly bad handling car than to spend money on another right now.
Case and point... something happens on your car while on track.... who knows what really, but something changes, and all of a sudden your car under steers badly.
You'll know how to remain on track and maintain position because you have experienced it before and you'll have the ability to overcome it.
Comes in handy when you are actually competing.
More fyi... upgrades help a car too but not all upgrades help in unison, and sometimes an upgrade will actually degrade a cars performance.
This is a trial and error type of thing you going to have to figure out for yourself... hence why we don't like to give out particular information.
What works for one doesn't work for all.
Go back and read grasshopper... learn from all the information in the numerous threads before your post. Sift through it, take what you can, ask if your unsure.
Don't be vague, be specific.
The questions have been asked.