Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks.
11-12-2004, 07:08 AM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EX_AutoXer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I think I'm leaning more towards the Crafstman mostly because of weight. Does anyone with the AC take it to the track? How much of a PITA would the AC be to carry up and down 3 flights of stairs?
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I carried my AC to the track. It would be a big PITA to carry up 3 flights though. The AC is a garage jack. If you need to carry it around frequently and don't have the luxury of just rolling into your enclosed trailer, it's probably not the right choice. Ideally, I'd have both - the AC for home and an aluminum one for the road.
I think I'm leaning more towards the Crafstman mostly because of weight. Does anyone with the AC take it to the track? How much of a PITA would the AC be to carry up and down 3 flights of stairs?
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I carried my AC to the track. It would be a big PITA to carry up 3 flights though. The AC is a garage jack. If you need to carry it around frequently and don't have the luxury of just rolling into your enclosed trailer, it's probably not the right choice. Ideally, I'd have both - the AC for home and an aluminum one for the road.
11-12-2004, 07:31 AM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
Just curious... has anyone bought the more expensive jack from HF?
http://www.harborfreight.com/c...=2672
It's $200, which is less than the cheaper model started out at...
http://www.harborfreight.com/c...=2672
It's $200, which is less than the cheaper model started out at...
11-12-2004, 07:47 AM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
the al. i have is from Cosco. i remember i paid like $275 before. this was about 2.5-3 years ago... see taiwan made these and they're really high quality... then china knock'ed it off and quality was much lower initially, and than gradually improved. now the cheap ones are decent.
if this new $200 HF jack is similar to the one i have then it is worth it.
the AC is a awesome garage jack. i made GB on it several years ago and everybody loved it. but nobody wants to lug that thing to the track.
that's what the al. jacks are for.
if this new $200 HF jack is similar to the one i have then it is worth it.
the AC is a awesome garage jack. i made GB on it several years ago and everybody loved it. but nobody wants to lug that thing to the track.
that's what the al. jacks are for.
11-12-2004, 07:54 AM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeffS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you need to carry it around frequently and don't have the luxury of just rolling into your enclosed trailer, it's probably not the right choice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what I figured. I don't have a garage, so my steel garage jack just sits in storage so I don't have a heart attack hauling it up to my apartment.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeffS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just curious... has anyone bought the more expensive jack from HF?
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I borrowed one from a guy at an even when I forgot mine. It's very light, and it got the car up fast like it states on the site. I don't really know about the quality, but it worked great when I used it. I had forgotten about that model; so I guess now it's between the HF and Crafstman
If you need to carry it around frequently and don't have the luxury of just rolling into your enclosed trailer, it's probably not the right choice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what I figured. I don't have a garage, so my steel garage jack just sits in storage so I don't have a heart attack hauling it up to my apartment.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeffS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just curious... has anyone bought the more expensive jack from HF?
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I borrowed one from a guy at an even when I forgot mine. It's very light, and it got the car up fast like it states on the site. I don't really know about the quality, but it worked great when I used it. I had forgotten about that model; so I guess now it's between the HF and Crafstman
11-12-2004, 08:41 AM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ghettoracer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i made GB on it several years ago</TD></TR></TABLE>
This is kind of funny timing because I'm in the market for a better quality jack as well. Maybe we should do a honda-tech group buy.
I have one of the el cheapo $20 ones. Ever since I lowered my Miata I need to drive it on a piece of wood before the jack will fit under the car. It's getting old so I mainly want lower clearance. Better quality, less pumping and lighter weight would all be bonuses.
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This is kind of funny timing because I'm in the market for a better quality jack as well. Maybe we should do a honda-tech group buy.
I have one of the el cheapo $20 ones. Ever since I lowered my Miata I need to drive it on a piece of wood before the jack will fit under the car. It's getting old so I mainly want lower clearance. Better quality, less pumping and lighter weight would all be bonuses.
Later,
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11-12-2004, 08:49 AM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
The fact is that Lincoln/Walker are no longer made here. If you have an older one-get a set of spare seals and hold on to it. We have both a Craftsman 2 ton Aluminum and a 1 ton Brunhoezel knockoff. Both work great for the Prelude and CRX. I take the NESCO to the track because it is easier to handle. Given a choice I should have gone with the Warrior when I bought the 1 ton since they were nearly the same price. Then again I have a complete set of seals and so forth and it is easy to work on. Neither jack has been a problem for us. For the money the Craftsman is an excellent buy-even with the 1 year warranty. I have seen the Harbor Freight ones and they work fine according to their owners. The Sams Club jack also appears to be a nice piece for the price.
11-12-2004, 09:14 AM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
You won't regret the AC jack. We've been using it at the shop on a daily basis for over 2 years now. Best jack we've ever used. I also own one of the aluminum jobbies from Harbor Freight. It's nothing to write home about.
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11-12-2004, 10:40 AM
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Sam's club no longer carries the aluminum racing jack. I knew I should have bought it when I saw it. I've briefly searched the internet and the AC low profile jack without quick lift step can be had for $220-$240. mabey I will invest in on of those...
11-12-2004, 04:20 PM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
how do you add oil to the hf jack??? mine makes terrible creaking noises when it gets close to the top.
i see three bolts:
one says "safety value - do not adjust." so i guess i leave that alone.
then there is a plug in the middle, loosens with a big allen wrench. i removed this and poured a little hydraulic oil in there, but i don't think i did it right.
and on the far right there is the breathing screw which i can move up and down by hand. should this be open or closed all of the way?
i've tried bleeding it by turning the handle full counter clockwise and pumping it a bunch of times. but it didn't do anything. unfortunately, i've misplaced the manual AND the receipt.
i just hope that the store manager is just as cool as the other ones were if i need to exchange it.
thanks
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i just took it back for the hell of it, and there was no problem at all. so now i have a brand new jack.
Modified by jwn7 at 6:34 PM 11/15/2004
i see three bolts:
one says "safety value - do not adjust." so i guess i leave that alone.
then there is a plug in the middle, loosens with a big allen wrench. i removed this and poured a little hydraulic oil in there, but i don't think i did it right.
and on the far right there is the breathing screw which i can move up and down by hand. should this be open or closed all of the way?
i've tried bleeding it by turning the handle full counter clockwise and pumping it a bunch of times. but it didn't do anything. unfortunately, i've misplaced the manual AND the receipt.
i just hope that the store manager is just as cool as the other ones were if i need to exchange it.thanks
edit:
i just took it back for the hell of it, and there was no problem at all. so now i have a brand new jack.
Modified by jwn7 at 6:34 PM 11/15/2004
11-12-2004, 04:37 PM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
I use a blue one from Costco only costed about 80 bucks and works awesome. It has outlasted my HF and Sears jacks.
11-14-2004, 11:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bad-monkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm i love my torin pepboys POS jack. supposed to be lightweight, but it's kinda heavy.
that said, it works well. much better than the HF **** that feels like it's about to break in 5 different ways when loaded.
a friend of mine has a torin regular steel jack and he loves that thing. prefers it to all of the craftsmans he's ever used.
but yeah, if economy isn't a priority then blinG on!</TD></TR></TABLE>
i like my cheapo torin too. 70bucks, 3tons, 3.75"-23" - best height range i've seen. a mammoth to lug around tho. the cart left a tiny dent in my sister's new camry when i was moving it off into the car.
my 6 year old wal-mart is pretty much toast, and my 3-4 year old craftsman trolly jack still does the job but is losing max height. a caster is bent and they dont swivel well either. hopefully it'll manage my first track day this weekend.
that said, it works well. much better than the HF **** that feels like it's about to break in 5 different ways when loaded.
a friend of mine has a torin regular steel jack and he loves that thing. prefers it to all of the craftsmans he's ever used.
but yeah, if economy isn't a priority then blinG on!</TD></TR></TABLE>
i like my cheapo torin too. 70bucks, 3tons, 3.75"-23" - best height range i've seen. a mammoth to lug around tho. the cart left a tiny dent in my sister's new camry when i was moving it off into the car.
my 6 year old wal-mart is pretty much toast, and my 3-4 year old craftsman trolly jack still does the job but is losing max height. a caster is bent and they dont swivel well either. hopefully it'll manage my first track day this weekend.
11-14-2004, 01:01 PM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
Well it must be the silly season for sure to have so many posts about a jack. Everyone just does not have enough to do, or they've all run out of any ideas on how to make their cars go faster.
I will have to second RJ's opinion that the HF jack is a POS. You should see how much that sucker can bend and twist if you put any sideways horizontal force from an unbalanced load on it. Absolutely scary! It could kill you in the wrong circumstances. I have never seen a jack bend and twist like I saw my HF jack do. Then again if you just jack up the car on level ground to change tires, it starts out low and pumps quickly, as long as you bleed it often and don't mind losing the odd part off it. I found one of my HF jack parts in a buddy's tool box because he had picked it up thinking it was from his car or something, but couldn't figure out where it came from.
That AC jack looks like a nice garage piece at 65 lbs. My garage jack weighs 85 lbs and stays on the floor, but rolls well unlike the HF. Now all I need to find is a light weight quality piece to take to the track to replace my HF, or maybe I could train gorilla.
I will have to second RJ's opinion that the HF jack is a POS. You should see how much that sucker can bend and twist if you put any sideways horizontal force from an unbalanced load on it. Absolutely scary! It could kill you in the wrong circumstances. I have never seen a jack bend and twist like I saw my HF jack do. Then again if you just jack up the car on level ground to change tires, it starts out low and pumps quickly, as long as you bleed it often and don't mind losing the odd part off it. I found one of my HF jack parts in a buddy's tool box because he had picked it up thinking it was from his car or something, but couldn't figure out where it came from.
That AC jack looks like a nice garage piece at 65 lbs. My garage jack weighs 85 lbs and stays on the floor, but rolls well unlike the HF. Now all I need to find is a light weight quality piece to take to the track to replace my HF, or maybe I could train gorilla.
11-16-2004, 11:15 AM
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can you guys post links to where you found your jack at ?? with prices as well.
i like m HF and so far it works great, then again i only use it from time to time to change the tires. i would like to look into the craftsman racing aluminum jack , can you guys post a link?
i like m HF and so far it works great, then again i only use it from time to time to change the tires. i would like to look into the craftsman racing aluminum jack , can you guys post a link?
11-16-2004, 11:53 AM
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I got my AC from ultimate garage, I think it's http://www.ultgarage.com
Fact of the matter is, any reasonably priced aluminum jack is going to be sketchy. If you have to have a light track jack, have a good shop jack, and make sure you put jackstands on before working under the car
Fact of the matter is, any reasonably priced aluminum jack is going to be sketchy. If you have to have a light track jack, have a good shop jack, and make sure you put jackstands on before working under the car
11-28-2004, 04:32 PM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
okay,got one of the Craftsman 1.5 ton aluminum/steel jacks today.will update later on how it works compared to my old reliable HF unit.first impression is that it is MUCH heavier than the HF jack.the box claims 44 lbs,but it feels much heavier-more like my all steel super big Snap-On jack(which i have no idea on weight-i just know it's a lot).of course,construction looks much better than the HF jack..
as a side note,i think earlier in this thread there was some confusion on the specs of the Craftsman jack,and price.they actually have two aluminum/steel jacks that are very similar looking.one-the one i got-costs $119 and is 1.5 ton capacity.the other is $199 and has a 2 ton capacity.i compared both and the heavier duty model doesn't look to be built any differently,and doesn't seem to use any less aluminum.also feels very similar in weight,although i couldn't find a weight spec on the 2-ton model.
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as a side note,i think earlier in this thread there was some confusion on the specs of the Craftsman jack,and price.they actually have two aluminum/steel jacks that are very similar looking.one-the one i got-costs $119 and is 1.5 ton capacity.the other is $199 and has a 2 ton capacity.i compared both and the heavier duty model doesn't look to be built any differently,and doesn't seem to use any less aluminum.also feels very similar in weight,although i couldn't find a weight spec on the 2-ton model.
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11-28-2004, 06:08 PM
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the 2 ton jack is all aluminum and weighs 44lbs
the 1.5 ton jack is aluminum and steel and weighs 55.4 lbs
I just picked up a all aluminum jack today
Normal price $199.99
Sale price $169.99
Craftsman club card member's price $152.99
<--- club member, plus $10 coupon paid $142.99 before tax
the 1.5 ton jack is aluminum and steel and weighs 55.4 lbs
I just picked up a all aluminum jack today
Normal price $199.99
Sale price $169.99
Craftsman club card member's price $152.99
<--- club member, plus $10 coupon paid $142.99 before tax
11-28-2004, 06:31 PM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
The cheap HF torque wrenches aren't even close to the proper torque. Buddy at work brought one in and tested on the Snap On calibrator and it was like 30% off!!
11-28-2004, 06:39 PM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jpl95si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The cheap HF torque wrenches aren't even close to the proper torque. Buddy at work brought one in and tested on the Snap On calibrator and it was like 30% off!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
30% + or 30% - ?
30% + or 30% - ?
11-28-2004, 06:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vapor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
30% + or 30% - ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
does it matter??
30% + or 30% - ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
does it matter??
11-28-2004, 06:46 PM
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well costco has an aluminum jack similar to the HF one for 115 now. It's minimum 3 3/4-18in 2ton. They also have a steel one which is 4 - 21 inches for 69 bux which I bought today. My friend has had one for a year now and for the xtra 1/4 minimum height you get an extra 4in of lift almost and since I do way more motor swaps than I should I usually end up needing it. I will simply get some 1in thick plywood sheets for the car to pull up on or some of those tire ramps from auto zone.
11-28-2004, 07:29 PM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dan GSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the 2 ton jack is all aluminum and weighs 44lbs
the 1.5 ton jack is aluminum and steel and weighs 55.4 lbs
I just picked up a all aluminum jack today
Normal price $199.99
Sale price $169.99
Craftsman club card member's price $152.99
<--- club member, plus $10 coupon paid $142.99 before tax</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn,i didn't see anything about the 2 ton jack being on sale.i would've went ahead and gotten the 2 ton model considering the small price difference.
chris *who's now bummed*
the 1.5 ton jack is aluminum and steel and weighs 55.4 lbs
I just picked up a all aluminum jack today
Normal price $199.99
Sale price $169.99
Craftsman club card member's price $152.99
<--- club member, plus $10 coupon paid $142.99 before tax</TD></TR></TABLE>
damn,i didn't see anything about the 2 ton jack being on sale.i would've went ahead and gotten the 2 ton model considering the small price difference.
chris *who's now bummed*
11-28-2004, 07:34 PM
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not too late to return it, sale goes on till Dec 11th
but call around, this is a hot item, and hard to keep in stock
I called 6 places before i found one, and had the guy put it to the side, since it was the last one in stock
but call around, this is a hot item, and hard to keep in stock
I called 6 places before i found one, and had the guy put it to the side, since it was the last one in stock
11-28-2004, 08:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jpl95si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The cheap HF torque wrenches aren't even close to the proper torque. Buddy at work brought one in and tested on the Snap On calibrator and it was like 30% off!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
i have a cheap torque wrench too, not sure if it was HF or not, but compared to my craftsman, it is very similar from 20-80lb-ft. this isn't to say my craftsman is dead-on however..
i have a cheap torque wrench too, not sure if it was HF or not, but compared to my craftsman, it is very similar from 20-80lb-ft. this isn't to say my craftsman is dead-on however..
12-02-2004, 07:55 PM
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Re: Racers can't survive without a good jack...and there's hardly such a thing any more...this sucks
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JeffS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You won't regret buying the DK20. It's very well built.
I hate to show you this since it's too late, but just in case anyone else is considering buying one...
http://www.asedeals.com/hydraulicjacks2.html - about $260 shipped.
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$40 off All AC jacks right now at the link above.
I hate to show you this since it's too late, but just in case anyone else is considering buying one...
http://www.asedeals.com/hydraulicjacks2.html - about $260 shipped.
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$40 off All AC jacks right now at the link above.