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Old 07-24-2012, 03:50 AM
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The car has come along way from when I bought it. Still a little timid on the down shifts. Would like to move to ITR brakes in front from current GSR.

I made a point to work on the back part of the track in the morning, where time is more driver dependent. It worked out on over all lap time. I would like to figure out my Harrys Lap timer and set up custom sectors to get more specific info.

It was 95 degrees and full sun so grip was not as good today but the car was great.

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What's your suspension setup and alignments?
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Koni yellows with GC. 450f/500r. 0 toe front and back. -2.8 front / -2.2 rear. Tires are 205 R888 on a 7" wheel

The car is still got OEM bushings that are old with exception of the front upper hard race camber adj arms.

Question- is there a reason to but new LCA with bushings installed vs buying front LCA bushings and have them pressed in?

I know the car is prob way under sprung but that Money went to the electrical fire it had. I am able to run at H1 times currently so i just want to get it out there Now I need cage and fire system. The cage I budgeted $1000. Man was I mistaken.
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What sway bars are you running?
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Rear is ASR brace with whatever bar comes with it as a kit. Nothing up front
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Koni yellows with GC. 450f/500r. 0 toe front and back. -2.8 front / -2.2 rear. Tires are 205 R888 on a 7" wheel

The car is still got OEM bushings that are old with exception of the front upper hard race camber adj arms.

Question- is there a reason to but new LCA with bushings installed vs buying front LCA bushings and have them pressed in?

I know the car is prob way under sprung but that Money went to the electrical fire it had. I am able to run at H1 times currently so i just want to get it out there Now I need cage and fire system. The cage I budgeted $1000. Man was I mistaken.
I have a guy in Ocala that would be right around 1600 for a good IT legal cage.
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Ricky in Ocala? If so he does great work; I think he is going to run a little higher than 1600. I went to chris leone in orlando for mine, ~$2300 with some additional bars added in like a petty bar.

miami, if you plan on NASA TT you should look into the points allowed for your braking setup. I switched from ITR to a wilwood 11 inch and felt it was a huge upgrade from the ITRs. If you are hit with the same points for both units its something to consider. Pads end up being cheaper for the wilwoods too over the ITRs.

LCA, personally I would just do bushings pressed in yourself or by a shop (spherical if possible)....check the rules for that as well because you could get docked for aftermarket arms. I have a set of progress sphericals Im going to be installing myself for the inner flca.

I think you are ok on suspension for now until you get everything else situated. Im not running that much more than you are at 500/800.


Dont lift! lol The rear was getting light and loose on you as Im sure you figured out.

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The lack of a front sway makes the rear real twitchy, but its the rotation that you are after.
It takes much practice im told to get used to it.
Keep at it
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Thanks for the input. I never would have guessed FWD would be be so fun.

I am going to see where the car lands for TT, I would like to do but won't want to change course radically from setting the car up for wheel to wheel. I will get the car dynoed and hopefully tuned at the same time ( 2 birds with 1 stone )
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The car sounds great btw!

I know you have a lot of seat time so it should just be a matter of getting used to the car and fwd. The principles are still the same for the most part, its just getting used to it. FWD is a lot of fun!

Do you have an LSD?
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The car sounds great btw!

I know you have a lot of seat time so it should just be a matter of getting used to the car and fwd. The principles are still the same for the most part, its just getting used to it. FWD is a lot of fun!

Do you have an LSD?
Quaffe LSD and 4.7 final drive.

It's hard to tell when the fronts are pulling you out vs. just scrubbing them in corners for me. I am looking to get better data and ride with other fwd Honda folks that have a passenger seat.
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Default Re: PBIR - 3rd test day with the car

here is in-car from my integra from the first time i was at PBIR. looks like your car may be a little too loose. i am running same setup as you, but 550 front and 375 back, no front sway, and a type-r rear sway. and all i have is a gsr motor

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