dbang003

hey guys. figured i'd share my car and see what everyone thinks. i have seen some stellar builds posted in here lately and thouht i would post mine (not that it's anything special). not many of us turbo guys around these parts! haha

background...i bought the car in 2002 with a gsr swap in it. started to autox it and make upgrades from there. in 2004 it became a weekend fun and autox car. that year i decided to get my first turbo kit. car was a blast to drive and had fun autoxing and eventually drag racing. 2006 i jumped into the drag race scene and competed in the SFWD class and ran 10.5-10.80. eventually hurt that motor and rebuilt it. a little bigger turbo and the car went its best at 10.008@152.88 in late 2008. 2009 i hurt the motor again and the car basically sat til 2011.

i decided i wanted to get back into autox and eventually hpde (maybe time attack). With the help of a good friend/tuner/fabricator, Jeff Evans, the car was up and running in October of 2011. Also, a big thank you to Geoff from Full Race for helping me along the way.

i've only had time to compete at one autox this year, but it was good to be back out. i managed to finish in the middle of the pack on street tires and it being my first autox in about 6 years.

looking forward to working out the bugs and getting it to some of the road courses here in the northeast.

known

iTrader: (1)

Nice man, get some brakes!

Try an HPDE to see how you like it, and then most likely TA would be a good place for that type of power.

90_EX_Civic

if you're going to stay in autox a little longer, run a turn down exhaust.

boosted920

First off, it's nice to see a fellow racer with boost

What class is TA ? What does that stand for and how is the competition in that class? This is one reason why I was wary of running boost. It'd put me in a much tougher class.

How much power are you running at the track? Are you able to keep the engine temps ok with the half size radiator?

Thanks for the help and post some pics/vids

known

iTrader: (1)

TA = Time Attack

The class will be tough no matter what organization with those mods.

dbang003

Brakes are on the list to do. Needs to be somewhat budget friendly so I was thinking itr, legend duals, or 11" wilwoods.

HPDE will definitely be first. Need some coaching.

90ex, I'm gonna keep it somewhat streetable to drive to local events. I'm gettin too old for open DP! Ha

Boosted, TA is time attack as previously stated and with any boost md the class ur in will be competitive. I think power was around 400. I'm battling some boost creep issues and even with the twin gates it won't hold at the 4psi spring pressure. I didn't have any cooling issues at autox but car was running hot on the hwy. Since then I've installed a 1710cfm spal fan, boxed in the front bumper, and made a plate that keeps air from bypassing the rad on the manifold side.

I'll post more when I have a chance.

Thx for the kind words and input.

boosted920

Known: thnx for the info. I think it'll be awhile before I got into anything competitive. But I've been thinking about switching to NA when I do eventually get to that level. I've seen that H-1 (?) 4 door ek with an oem built b16, would it be in the same class as an oem built K series since its factory Honda motor? I know there are a lot of regulations once you get into competitive racing, it gets a little confusing at times. Sorry for all the silly questions and thanks for the help

Dbang: Your setup is a LOT nicer than mine! I tried on a budget 400whp!? That's a lot of power I'd think. What kind of tire were you on and did they provide enough traction? I'll be running 300whp on low boost for the track and a high boost setting for the street (or straight aways? Not sure if that'll hurt my wg if I'm constantly switching?..) I'm on RE-11's. As for rad I went with a mishimoto dual core full size and dual mishimoto fans (this has been a headache and has caused many clearance issues). Yes please post pics of your cooling mods. I'd love to see them. Thanks

Oh and because of clearance issues, I've had to run open dp that exits thru my bumper just in front of my white ce28's

known

iTrader: (1)

No problem, the rules for different orgs can be confusing and difficult, more so with scca.

I honestly wouldnt go with the hybrid brake system after having the itr kit and then switching to the wilwoods.

Rotors not sitting perfect that are made for others cars seems to be an issue the more I played with my own setup.

The wilwoods are really a great value, they also have cheaper pads in comparison to the itr kit.

You will deff want big brakes and brake ducts with that type of power on a road course. powerneedy had a pretty good turbo TA car as well as mrlego I think it was if you search and review their build outs. They have already suffered some of the issues you may be able to learn from.

gringotegra

Digging the car!

So it looks like you and me are the only 2 dumbasses with 10 sec honda's that want to take corners lol.

My car isn't quite as fast as your's was but i am keeping it on the 6262 for now.

Are those 15X8 TRM wheels?

powerneedy

^^^I need to get a hold of you for some of those t1 cams

Car looks like it should have no issues with killing some cars when the tires are pointed straight lol! Make sure that radiator is all ducted. If you are having any cooling issues or highish temps cruising in town/hwy then you will have issues on the track, So try to get them all worked out before you go. Don't get discouraged as you might go down 2 or 3 times and fight cooling a little... If you have any questions let us know

cluelessmale

iTrader: (1)

the trick are wrap and duct everything, also having good air supply for the intercooler.oilcooler.rad.brakecoolers will help a lot

it is not a one size fits all so bring AL sheet, rivits, and heat tape to your first couple events, so if you have a heating issue you can try making some better ducting to direct air better.

early or late in the season issue happen less, but when it is 100F outside all the issues come out

gringotegra

Just PM me man! haha


I got my new Koyo radiator and plan on doing some ducting to it today haha.

90_EX_Civic

but op, it sounds so sexy....

SRDFTITAN

iTrader: (3)

Very nice build, I don't have a 10 second turbo car but I'm also making the transition from wanting to go straight to wanting to turn right and left with a boosted car. I've done a lot of research on boosted hondas running TA and I've just decided that as long as I'm auto x I'll be fine (SCCA). As soon as I start HPDE/TT/ and eventually racing events (NASA), I'm going to go NA. To me having a boosted car on the street is a headache, I can only imagine what can happen on the track. Just my .02

Lo-Buck EF

glad to see you getting back into the autocross/track scene!
i have an itr brake set up that will work good for you when you're ready for track time.

dbang003

224/45/15 hankook rs3 tires. traction is basically had by pedal modulation, which i'm still learning on this new setup.

your wastegate will be fine with different pressures.

guess i might have to go the wilwood route. i was liking the hybrid setup cuz i'd switch to an integra spindle with bigger wheel bearing. maybe i'll still do the spindle switch and get a 4 piston integra kit.

i've been keeping an eye on a lot of the turbo builds here. powerneedy helped me out with sourcing the ABS to box in the front and make the rad ducting.

haha, dumbasses indeed!

i was on a 67mm then. should have gone a lot faster.

yea 15x8 TRM +20

thanks. i'm sure it will be trial and error like you went thru. but now you have one badass car as the result. thanks for the info about the plastic.

i'm in the process of ducting everything and also heat wrapping. made a ton of difference on the downpipe. car idled for a long time and i could still touch the wrap. looking into a turbo blanket and was gonna get a T1, but i don't think they have em anymore. i'll probably go DEI since their hear wrap works well.

gringo, post some pics up of your radiator when done.

open DP does sound crazy. i should have kept my 4" aluminum exhaust. that sounded pretty cool imo. here's a vid from a while back. listen when i'm at the top of the track and you'll here the car on limiter thanks to 4th gear shearing...haha.

i don't know how to embed the stupid vid. here's the link. edit. i guess i just have to paste the link and the forum takes care of the rest...i tried pasting in the embedded code from youtube...silly me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lStjeMLtUbs

dbang003

thanks Spence...i'm hoping to hit up an NYR event or 2. wish i had the time to go to the NNJR and NYR events like i use to.

the itr setup from your car? if so, what you running now?

90_EX_Civic

LOL! would sound awesome but you would get the ban hammer at some events with just a down pipe. what i really meant was a turn down instead of the muffler. that way you'll be legal for autox rules, and may be even for a some tracks.

it's just that you got that dorky looking muffler (just by looks, but looks like a vibrant ) i'd go with a Burns muffler and put a super trap on it. that way if you want it quieter you can just add plates to it, and if you want it loud/at the tracks, just take off the trap.

dbang003

i see. it's a 3" thermal on the car now. the 4" aluminum setup had a vibrant 4" SS muffler welded to the DP then vbanded to aluminum the rest of the way back.

dbang003

some more random pics of the build. you can see some of the ducting on the exhaust manifold side. still need to duct the passenger side between the IC and radiator.

dbang003

and the lonely one cuz i can only upload 10 at a time.

cluelessmale

iTrader: (1)

that intercooler looks like bad new for the radiator. anyway of letting the radiator have some fresh air?

dbang003

I could probably open the bumper and sneak air in between the upper rad support and top of the IC. But I didn't want to cut it up until I tested what I've done so far. You think the IC is too tall?

I will also be doing a 19 row Earls oil cooler and switching to an electric water pump down the road, so that will all aid in cooling.

dbang003

so a little update. i was able to drive the car around today. and it is running cooler with the ducting and heat wrapping that i've done so far. so i'm happy that there's progress and i still have more i can do to keep getting the coolant temps down.

previously it was hitting 220 on my autometer and 208 on the hondata when at speed on the highway and 70 degree ambient.

today it got to 210 on my autometer and 197 on the hondata when at speed and it was a blistering 90+ degrees ambient.

i'd say that is a success. i also played with my heat after a while. if i just flick the temp adjuster to full hot it drops to around 200ish on the autometer while at speed.

around town it runs below 200 cuz the new 13" spal fan is cranking.

fan is set to run at 175 coolant temp and speeds below 50mph. so at highway speed the ducting is paying off. and i still have more to do.

no it's not race ready or during a race scenario, but it's an improvement.

hondaapi

You are not the only one running a F/I car for T/A or circuit track use.
We are running a lot of such cars on the circuit track here in Germany.

Maybe I overread it, but what turbocharger are you using?

In point of your boost creep problem it could help to recirc the dumptube into the downpipe.
You´ll loose a little bit of power but that should not be sooo bad.
You need to use a nice angle not to influence flow so horrible. We could help you out with pictures.
Feel free to ask.