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Old 02-09-2006, 02:26 PM
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Putting together the adjustable rear bar for the Golf and I'd like to use metric rod ends on the links. Anyone have a good source, preferably with online ordering? I might also need tapered spacers to accommodate angular motion, if anyone has a link.

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mcmaster has them as does rodendsupply
Ithink its rodendsupply.com

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Metric ones are expencive. Expect to pay about 40-50 bucks each one.

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HRP sells Fluro rod ends.

http://www.hrpworld.com/index....egory

Fairly pricey, but they appear to be high quality.

What I usually do is try to find a close imperical size and machine some adapters. For my sway bar rod ends that used 12mm bolts, I'm using 3/8" alloy rod ends with aluminum adapters.

It also seems difficult to find LH thread metric rod ends. On the end links I made, I used one RH and one LH rod end so I could dial out the preload without disassembling the end link. Another reason to use imperical rod ends with adapters.
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I think Aura bearing makes metic rod ends.
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Yes, they do. Hard to find them online. Most places I've dealt with had to special order them.
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Try poking around the fsae forums. I think there's quite a bit about them there.
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http://www.mcmastercarr.com

I just ordered a few from them, and i had them the NEST day
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K, I don't know how much length/adjustability you need OR the bolt size....but you might give Dave Wheeler a call to see if the ones he's putting together for Spec Miatas will work for you.

They're VERY nice - Aurora ends, right- and left-hand with a turnbuckle in the middle so you don't have to disassemble them.

http://www.advanced-autosports.com/prod02.htm

The spacers aren't tapered, though - don't know if that's a deal-breaker or not.

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Here you go. Call if questions.

Bob 800-688-6946 ext 1225

http://www.pegasusautoracing.c...=3066
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluegsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...you might give Dave Wheeler a call to see if the ones he's putting together for Spec Miatas will work for you....</TD></TR></TABLE>

If those are the same ones that Mazda Motorsports sells, they're "standard" hardware.

Kirk, I build most of my custom stuff (including my rear swaybar) using "standard" hardware. It's more readily available and costs less. Metric is kinda irrelevant, as I carry a full set of metric and standard tools anyway... - GA
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Thanks everyone for the ideas. The primary reason we thought about using metric links was to facilitate using the rear strut bottom bolt as a mounting point. Looks like the cost of metric bits means that doesn't make a lot of sense.

Ordered the rear bar and arms from Speedway Eng. yesterday - 1.25OD, .205" wall tubular. We have several possible solutions for mounting so there's some fiddling to do...

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Don't be a little girl: get the solid bar.

http://www.kakashiracing.com/swaybar.html
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I've got to be conservative, 'cause I got a bunch of ******* renting the car from me for enduros.

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Ooowwser, that hurt my feelings...
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Got to be able to TAKE it too, dude. I'm worried that I'll find Cameron moping around the shop tomorrow morning, after your threats to deflower his firstborn.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Greg Amy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't be a little girl: get the solid bar.

http://www.kakashiracing.com/swaybar.html</TD></TR></TABLE>

Holy Moly! That bar is huge.

How did you go about designing it? And picking the correct size, etc? (same question to Kirk, assuming he's doing something similar)
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LOL - I completely arbitrarily ordered the biggest tubular bar they offered, in the width that gave me several mounting options. I honestly just shuddered at the thought of how much the solid ones weigh, as I'm trying to lose 100# over last year's actual on-track weight.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crack Monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Holy Moly! That bar is huge. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I've got one of them too, except it aint solid!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knestis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I'm worried that I'll find Cameron moping around the shop tomorrow morning, after your threats to deflower his firstborn. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually Kirk, didn't you already do that? Isn't this one #2?

Waiting for late June to roll around...
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New shell = virgin. It's like being born again, kind of.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crack Monkey &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How did you go about designing it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Holding it up in space underneath the car and filling in the resultant space with tubular metal and MIG welding wire. Really.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...And picking the correct size, etc?</TD></TR></TABLE>
This car SERIOUSLY needs increased rear roll stiffness. This Speedway Engineering 1.25" torsion bar comes in several wall thicknesses, from solid all the way down to .095" wall. I treat the rear swaybar just like I do suspension springs: I keep a couple of different ones in the trailer and can quickly swap them out to tune the handling. So far the only thing I've run is the solid one...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knestis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...shuddered at the thought of how much the solid ones weigh, as I'm trying to lose 100#...</TD></TR></TABLE>
And I was about 30 pounds light; can you think of any better place to put that weight...?

GregA, looking forward to the deflowering...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bluegsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">K, I don't know how much length/adjustability you need OR the bolt size....but you might give Dave Wheeler a call to see if the ones he's putting together for Spec Miatas will work for you.

They're VERY nice - Aurora ends, right- and left-hand with a turnbuckle in the middle so you don't have to disassemble them.

http://www.advanced-autosports.com/prod02.htm

The spacers aren't tapered, though - don't know if that's a deal-breaker or not.

Jarrod</TD></TR></TABLE>

So how can they sell 4 links for $125?

That is 8 Aurora metric rod ends
plus 8 jamb nuts plus 4 threaded links plus 16 spacers/washers and all for $125.

Seems that they would have to be seling those rod ends for not much more than $10 ea. Doesn't seem to match any metric rod end prices I have seen. Any idea what gives?
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I'm wondering how many Smirnoff Ices we need to pour into Pablo II before Greg has his way with him. Actually, we don't know the line-up yet. Greg might not be first up, so...

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Knestis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...before Greg has his way with him.</TD></TR></TABLE>
"HIM"?!?!? Whoa, whoa, wait a sec, here: you told me it was Cameron's DAUGHTER...!!!


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