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Old 06-09-2015, 07:59 AM
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I just spent another 5k on parts this year, another dyno session, pulled and rebuilt my trans. But I don't even seem to care enough to load it up and go to the track, I have never had this happen before in 15 years. Normally I live for this stuff, but I would rather just kick my feet up and drink beer. The series I run in went out of business and all thats left are track days and one overcrowded and seriously riced out show/drift/time attack series where u get about 5 seconds of track time with some retarded and blind ricers who spend more time spinning and driving off track than on it. There is nothing worse than running after drifting either, you get a track filled with wood screws and fluids from the steaming piles of crap they run.

Anyone take a season off and come back to it? Or is it just time to move on?
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Where are you located?
There has to be something else but ghey track days full of drifters, racers wannabe's who are able to judge their own driving ability and over class themselves.
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Maybe drive further out?
Cutting down on the frequency of track days but finding a place where you can be you.
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When you say "series", are you referring to wheel-to-wheel racing? TT? Lapping? Personally I find anything outside of wheel-to-wheel unfulfilling. To each his own. But showing up at HPDE for me is just shaking down the car, I know what lap times I will run within 1 second and you can't get up close and personal into turns......so that novelty of speed and threshold braking goes away.

If your race series is gone And you have not tried chump car, it can be a lot of fun. You have a big group of gear heads that do everything on a budget and seam to be able to fix anything and keep it running. The driving is not the best but it's highly entertaining.
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When you say "series", are you referring to wheel-to-wheel racing? TT? Lapping? Personally I find anything outside of wheel-to-wheel unfulfilling. To each his own. But showing up at HPDE for me is just shaking down the car, I know what lap times I will run within 1 second and you can't get up close and personal into turns......so that novelty of speed and threshold braking goes away.

If your race series is gone And you have not tried chump car, it can be a lot of fun. You have a big group of gear heads that do everything on a budget and seam to be able to fix anything and keep it running. The driving is not the best but it's highly entertaining.
I ran time attack. I have tens and tens of thousands into the type r now, I won't run door to door because I just couldn't wreck this thing Ive had for 15 years. Paid cash at 20 yo for it, definitely sentimental lol. It put down 478whp this year so who would I race door to door anyways. We dont have chump car that I know of, we have ice racing during winter which is the same kind of idea. All cars are held together with cable ties and bubble gum and everyone has alot of fun. I have been offered to buy in for next winter, that sounds like it will be fun.

The real challenge has always been making big power, running full out and keeping it alive to run the next week.
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Ever try rallycross?
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I kinda feel the same this summer. Not sure if just getting older or what but my care to do it all has kinda dropped a bit. My Itr as well as 90% of K swap sitting in my garage and I just have hit a wall where i am tired of spending money on it. Figured if I took a while off maybe I would care again. I think your right to just step away and see what comes of it.
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Ever try rallycross?
Nope, I could run my tow rig. I do love that mudtruckin
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If you have a race licence, Come down to Atlantic Motorsports park in Nova Scotia. Anybody who comes from outside the maritime can race for $100. Instead of $380. And i am pretty sure we offer a $100 tow fee for anyone coming that far. lol. Currently 3 Honda's racing, always looking for more. This extends to anyone!!!!! Just $100 for 3 15 lap races and a 1 hour race. Good clean racing, with well behaved drivers. We don't want to damage our gear, just as much as you don't want to damage your gear.
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If you have a race licence, Come down to Atlantic Motorsports park in Nova Scotia. Anybody who comes from outside the maritime can race for $100. Instead of $380. And i am pretty sure we offer a $100 tow fee for anyone coming that far. lol. Currently 3 Honda's racing, always looking for more is extends to anyone!!!!! Just $100 for 3 15 lap races and a 1 hour race. Good clean racing, with well behaved drivers. We don't want to damage our gear, just as much as you don't want to damage your gear.
That does sound like fun! 10mpg in my truck all the way east scares me a bit. Travelling around would add excitement no doubt. The wife and I are renting a cottage near Watkins Glen for a weekend and i will be doing a track day. So many more track in the states I would love to visit, as well as doing the Sandhills open road challenge and Pikes peak.
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There's a ton of Canadian Chumpcar races this season, they ran at Mosport a month ago, Calabogie in Ottawa is on June 20th. You'd have to build a completely new car as your ITR doesn't fit in that series but it's the cheapest and best wheel to wheel racing you can get right now.
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Originally Posted by Root of all Evil
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From your first post I knew you were talking about CSCS lol...

A shame Sigma stopped... very well organized!

What about OTA?

I go to the Kplayground events mostly.
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Hahaha cscs is fn terrible. It's a great place for the thieving scum to do recon on your car though. I ran ota before, it was alright i guess, lots of waiting around.
Thats great there is a chumpcar series now. Looks promising
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Originally Posted by Minor Threat
There's a ton of Canadian Chumpcar races this season, they ran at Mosport a month ago, Calabogie in Ottawa is on June 20th. You'd have to build a completely new car as your ITR doesn't fit in that series but it's the cheapest and best wheel to wheel racing you can get right now.
In Canada this is true. Sal and Wendy who run the events are great too. I have a handful of ChumpCar Canadia wins, so I am experienced on the series.

In the states World Racing League, is cheaper, has better racing, and better events. Your CRX would be very easy to class and would need no mods to be legal. WorldRacingLeague.org

Also, I had roll my fenders to get 8" wheels @ +35 to fit without rubbing.
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I took a 2 year break at one point. Sold the race car, which had become overly pricey to run and incredibly slow for the money invested and took a 2 year break from running. I still stuck around as an instructor/event organizer during these years, though.

I bought the Civic a few years back with no goals except to drive and have fun. I made a mild, no nonsense build, based on proven setups, with budget in mind at all times.

People here might not agree, but I find it refreshing when you stop trying to be the fastest car around. It kind of brought the fun back in it (for me at least).

And yes, Chumpcar is growing in Canada. They even have a Canadian division this year. Look it up on their website
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Originally Posted by Root of all Evil
The series I run in went out of business and all thats left are track days and one overcrowded and seriously riced out show/drift/time attack series where u get about 5 seconds of track time with some retarded and blind ricers who spend more time spinning and driving off track than on it. There is nothing worse than running after drifting either, you get a track filled with wood screws and fluids from the steaming piles of crap they run.

so true... well said...
I rr my ef with 350-400whp and for me it's most fun chasing other cars like m3, vetts, evo...

You've been at this for a while so it's natural to loose some motiviation and loose the hunger.


You can't always stay motivated and thats when you have to get close to group of guys who are as serious as you are. Even if you don't know them personally, it's just guys at the track you keep in touch with in between events to keep the motiviation up.
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Nope, I could run my tow rig. I do love that mudtruckin
I've seen very few trucks allowed to run, but the RWD classes do seem to be the funnest.
AWD is of course the quickest.
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People here might not agree, but I find it refreshing when you stop trying to be the fastest car around. It kind of brought the fun back in it (for me at least).
Truth.
I did the same thing & came to the same conclusion.
Now I just look for opportunities to improve my ride & try out different things.
Sort of like an ongoing experiment without dumping my 401k into it.
Traveling the path has become more enjoyable than reaching the destination, if that analogy makes any sense.
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What's the show/ time attack/ drift series up there?
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Canadian Sport Compact Series.
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CSCS is just a money pit period... the Time Attack guys get screwed royaly compared to the Drifting/drag/show guys. They pay more then triple the price plus entrance fees and only get maybe 30 minutes of track time at the end of the day!

Best part is nothing is given back to the community... it's all goes into the organizers pockets.
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Originally Posted by Root of all Evil
Hahaha cscs is fn terrible. It's a great place for the thieving scum to do recon on your car though. I ran ota before, it was alright i guess, lots of waiting around.
Thats great there is a chumpcar series now. Looks promising
I do agree costs are high, but I don't think that's an issue that's simply isolated to CSCS. Time Attack like other forms of road racing is expensive, but this is compounded by the nature of time attack. When you look at most time attack cars, they're basically putting out similar horsepower numbers as some drag cars were 10 years ago, but are whipping around the track lap after lap. I think many series are facing the same problem with keeping costs in control, while still staying true to the original purpose of Time Attack.

I've been running CSCS for almost 6 years now, I also used to run OTA and Sigma and have run in the states at Global Time Attack. Each series has it's pros and cons, but generally I find the competition and the overall event that CSCS put on to be one of the best, especially considering the event is run in Canada where there seems to be less shops then in the states. I've always found the people at all the events to be really nice, and haven't had any of the issues that you're mentioning (knock on wood). I think it was nice when Sigma was running as it offered a series more geared towards people just getting started in Time Attack and cars that were more stock then modified.

When you were running at CSCS what class were you actually running in? I don't think I remember seeing your car out there. Would be nice to see some more turbocharged FWD cars
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Nothing wrong with taking a break. I'm going it now. Got fed up with my car and bought a new one and gave my "track" car to a friend. Selling off or just giving away parts. I'll get back into it, possible, again. I still flag at the track just so I can be there to watch some racing, just not as much as I used to. You're not the first to go through this or the last. Sometimes interests just start to wane.
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