Looking for CRX spherical bushings
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Looking for CRX spherical bushings
i dont even know where to look. where do you guys with CRXs get spherical bushings from? basically id like to get some press in bushings for the front arms (which would be 4 bushings) and rear arms with sphericals, like the toe arm, camber arm, lower arm, etc. i did find a spherical RTA on special projects' site but they dont list any applications, not sure if it would fit.
any and all help appreciated
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Re: Looking for CRX spherical bushings
I have everything you need in stock, No press required. The HARDRACE sphericals are already pressed into the eye bolts.
PM Me.
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Re: Looking for CRX spherical bushings
You can get the HardRace arms from Special Projects for sure.
Progress Suspension also offers a complete line of bearings for the CRX, but they are much more costly than the Hardrace ones from SPMS!
Progress Suspension also offers a complete line of bearings for the CRX, but they are much more costly than the Hardrace ones from SPMS!
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But you get what you pay for. Progress uses US made Aurora bearings. I believe they use the COM or AIB series which are fine for most applications. I use the Aurora Performance Racing Series bearings so my stuff is more expensive than Progress but you get free assembly, painting etc. If you buy an inferior product with Taiwanese or Chinese bearings have fun with that. You will probably only do it once.
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Re: Looking for CRX spherical bushings
For the rear toe and upper arm, have you considered making your own arm assemblies? Threaded rod, jam nuts, and rod ends are all readily available from various circle track suppliers. Jon Aadland posted some good information on rolling your own LCAs on his site.
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Re: Looking for CRX spherical bushings
But you get what you pay for. Progress uses US made Aurora bearings. I believe they use the COM or AIB series which are fine for most applications. I use the Aurora Performance Racing Series bearings so my stuff is more expensive than Progress but you get free assembly, painting etc. If you buy an inferior product with Taiwanese or Chinese bearings have fun with that. You will probably only do it once.
I have cars with Progress and Hardrace stuff here, so I know what you are talking about. Some of the bearings can be the cheaper type while others you certainly want the highest quality you can get.
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Re: Looking for CRX spherical bushings
For the rear toe and upper arm, have you considered making your own arm assemblies? Threaded rod, jam nuts, and rod ends are all readily available from various circle track suppliers. Jon Aadland posted some good information on rolling your own LCAs on his site.
where can you find the parts to make them though? i dont know anything about circle track, so i really dont know any suppliers either. anyone else every built there own? maybe stuff from mcmaster?
and i like those rubber boots for the eyebolts. im gonna look into that too.
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Re: Looking for CRX spherical bushings
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BUT before you run out to buy them ---- IIRC, you have rear shocks with a spherical bearing. In this case, we do not recommend that you use the "standard" spherical bearing version of the arm. Instead, we recommend only the inboard bushing be replaced with a spherical bearing and retain the poly bushing for the outboard end. This prevents the arm from twisting along the long axis of the arm (i.e. the turning moment of the sway bar attachment is one scenario that causes this). You'll have to custom order this. This is the same case for Jaker who is sending his ITR arms back to us for the spherical bearing upgrade - we are only upgrading the inboard bearing on his arms because he already has shocks with spherical bearings.
i could also see this really only being a viable option for the toe link, since the camber upper arms have a special connection to the body, not just 2 eyebolts like the toe link.
where can you find the parts to make them though? i dont know anything about circle track, so i really dont know any suppliers either. anyone else every built there own? maybe stuff from mcmaster?
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Got your PM GSRCRXsi, Thanks I'll send pricing and details today Internet is down at the shop until Saturday so I'm doing all this from home.
Just a note of interest, everyone has their own preference and I only sell what I Race and Prove on the track.
Our 2009 So Cal H1 Championship Car placed 7th in class at the 2009 25 hrs at Thunder Hill. every suspension component was HARDRACE and most parts had been in the car for a full H1 Season, at the end of a hard 25 hrs every bearing was like new. Nothing Cheap about Hardrace.
Watch for the new "Kiwi Signature Series" of suspension components coming soon.
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Just a note of interest, everyone has their own preference and I only sell what I Race and Prove on the track.
Our 2009 So Cal H1 Championship Car placed 7th in class at the 2009 25 hrs at Thunder Hill. every suspension component was HARDRACE and most parts had been in the car for a full H1 Season, at the end of a hard 25 hrs every bearing was like new. Nothing Cheap about Hardrace.
Watch for the new "Kiwi Signature Series" of suspension components coming soon.
Kiwi
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Re: Looking for CRX spherical bushings
Got your PM GSRCRXsi, Thanks I'll send pricing and details today Internet is down at the shop until Saturday so I'm doing all this from home.
Just a note of interest, everyone has their own preference and I only sell what I Race and Prove on the track.
Our 2009 So Cal H1 Championship Car placed 7th in class at the 2009 25 hrs at Thunder Hill. every suspension component was HARDRACE and most parts had been in the car for a full H1 Season, at the end of a hard 25 hrs every bearing was like new. Nothing Cheap about Hardrace.
Watch for the new "Kiwi Signature Series" of suspension components coming soon.
Kiwi
Just a note of interest, everyone has their own preference and I only sell what I Race and Prove on the track.
Our 2009 So Cal H1 Championship Car placed 7th in class at the 2009 25 hrs at Thunder Hill. every suspension component was HARDRACE and most parts had been in the car for a full H1 Season, at the end of a hard 25 hrs every bearing was like new. Nothing Cheap about Hardrace.
Watch for the new "Kiwi Signature Series" of suspension components coming soon.
Kiwi
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Re: Looking for CRX spherical bushings
Bumping this back up.
Kiwi was able to supply me with almost everything. Nearly all of it is EG specific hardrace stuff
they are very beefy units. the joints are very tight and actually take a good amount of force to move, but shouldnt be an issue on the car. i like that most of the hardrace stuff i got has rubber boots sealing the bearing from dirt/water/etc. the only bushings that didnt have boots were the from LCA bushings, and the toe adjusters. i added boots to the toe adjusters though. also the camber and toe adjusters are reverse threaded on one ene so camber toe adjustment should be a breeze.
to be clear, i have not run these yet. im still in the process of an entire suspension/brake/steering/bearing/balljoint overhaul lol. but i dont anticipate much issue. everything fits fine. its just these last 2 bushings that im trying to get. now it seems i have no options but to use the hardrace hard rubber. That is the front lca subframe attachment point.
the EG parts i used:
rear LCA assembly with sphericals. the entire arm (aluminum alloy)
rear camber kit with sphericals (universal fit for civic/crx, adjustable for camber settings)
rear toe adjusters with sphericals (these seemed a little short to me. i made them a little shorter than the stock arms, bolted them in with them pushed all the way out out on the slotted adjustment bolt, and will adjust toe by adjusting the link itself. should be more precise than the slotted attachment anyway, and easier/faster to adjust, like the tie-rods in the front)
front shock fork location on the LCA (bushing alone, pressed in myself)
PCI RTA bushing was not a problem since all honda civics 88-00 use the same bushing size. and the PCI is bolt in.
pics of my stuff:
dont have pics of the front LCA cause its still missing a bushing lol. really bummed about that bushing kit being discontinued now. ill probably just end up with the hard rubber unless anyone else has a solution. i really dont know why hardrace doesnt offer the bushings, or even the full front LCA assembly with sphericals, for the CRX. they offer that for EG/DG/EK and probably some others. and replacing the whole arm is only a little more expensive than replacing the bushings alone, but WAYYYY easier to replace.
Also the progress front lca bushings are now discontinued. That was my last option now it's gone. So what do you guys with crx's do for the front lca's?
Kiwi was able to supply me with almost everything. Nearly all of it is EG specific hardrace stuff
they are very beefy units. the joints are very tight and actually take a good amount of force to move, but shouldnt be an issue on the car. i like that most of the hardrace stuff i got has rubber boots sealing the bearing from dirt/water/etc. the only bushings that didnt have boots were the from LCA bushings, and the toe adjusters. i added boots to the toe adjusters though. also the camber and toe adjusters are reverse threaded on one ene so camber toe adjustment should be a breeze.
to be clear, i have not run these yet. im still in the process of an entire suspension/brake/steering/bearing/balljoint overhaul lol. but i dont anticipate much issue. everything fits fine. its just these last 2 bushings that im trying to get. now it seems i have no options but to use the hardrace hard rubber. That is the front lca subframe attachment point.
the EG parts i used:
rear LCA assembly with sphericals. the entire arm (aluminum alloy)
rear camber kit with sphericals (universal fit for civic/crx, adjustable for camber settings)
rear toe adjusters with sphericals (these seemed a little short to me. i made them a little shorter than the stock arms, bolted them in with them pushed all the way out out on the slotted adjustment bolt, and will adjust toe by adjusting the link itself. should be more precise than the slotted attachment anyway, and easier/faster to adjust, like the tie-rods in the front)
front shock fork location on the LCA (bushing alone, pressed in myself)
PCI RTA bushing was not a problem since all honda civics 88-00 use the same bushing size. and the PCI is bolt in.
pics of my stuff:
dont have pics of the front LCA cause its still missing a bushing lol. really bummed about that bushing kit being discontinued now. ill probably just end up with the hard rubber unless anyone else has a solution. i really dont know why hardrace doesnt offer the bushings, or even the full front LCA assembly with sphericals, for the CRX. they offer that for EG/DG/EK and probably some others. and replacing the whole arm is only a little more expensive than replacing the bushings alone, but WAYYYY easier to replace.
Also the progress front lca bushings are now discontinued. That was my last option now it's gone. So what do you guys with crx's do for the front lca's?
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Re: Looking for CRX spherical bushings
Ian,
I'm trying to have some of my new "Signature Series" Bronze Bushing Housings machined down to suit the CRX LCA's.
If this can be done you will have the perfect set up- Bronze bushings on the LCA's and the Sphericals you now have on the shock mounts.
Don't worry I have a soft spot for the CRX and had'nt forgotten you buddy.
Kiwi
I'm trying to have some of my new "Signature Series" Bronze Bushing Housings machined down to suit the CRX LCA's.
If this can be done you will have the perfect set up- Bronze bushings on the LCA's and the Sphericals you now have on the shock mounts.
Don't worry I have a soft spot for the CRX and had'nt forgotten you buddy.
Kiwi
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Jeff,
that sounds awesome! definitely keep me up to date on that. ignore my email about the rubber in that case. you can probably use the rubber bushing as a template to get the right size. (the measurements i gave you were rough estimates).
question. are the bronze bushings a spherical joint? or is it just a solid bronze bushing for axis rotation only. i was under the impression that this application needs full motion. but you know more about what's needed than i do lol.
thanks man!
that sounds awesome! definitely keep me up to date on that. ignore my email about the rubber in that case. you can probably use the rubber bushing as a template to get the right size. (the measurements i gave you were rough estimates).
question. are the bronze bushings a spherical joint? or is it just a solid bronze bushing for axis rotation only. i was under the impression that this application needs full motion. but you know more about what's needed than i do lol.
thanks man!
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For the rear toe and upper arm, have you considered making your own arm assemblies? Threaded rod, jam nuts, and rod ends are all readily available from various circle track suppliers. Jon Aadland posted some good information on rolling your own LCAs on his site.
I will be using that for my rear trailing arm and maybe I can come up with something for the lower arm too since the shock is in the hub.
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