Jimmy

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I have a 1994 Integra RS. Integra Type R 5lug setup.. (jdm itr 36mm)

I'm replacing all the worn out bushings before next track day.

I started with replacing my worn RTA Bushings with the Mugen Trailing arm bushings. (purchased from King motorsports)

Now on to the front..

My front lower control arm bushings are bad as well as my compliance bushings.. I'm looking on the Acura Automotive parts website and notice there is a different part number for the RS Integra and the Type R Integra.. and incredibly the type R compliance bushing is cheaper.

I don't understand how that makes sense? The type R bushing is going to be a better bushing overall, correct?

Found this information via http://www.honda.com/newsandviews/ar...id=20070712826

I found a thread stating that with type R compliance bushing would indeed work on my non type R --- https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/difference-between-itr-non-r-compliance-bushings-2549570/

My next question..

I don't have access to a press and the local Honda speciality shop charges $66.00 a bushing..

I'm considering just purchasing the type R front lower control arms for my car if they would indeed work on my non R.

Does anyone know if what I'm wanting to do would for sure 100% work or could anyone with experience please shed some light on the subject.

chrisb

That enhance stability crap is marketing rubbish. If your car is a street car just buy whatever is cheaper. $66 a bushing is highway robbery. Though I admit that pressing those old bushings out completely sucks as I have done many dozens of them. Bleh.

Too bad your car is street driven. If it were just a track car there are some interesting possibilities for a couple hundred more than your $66 a bushing price. Hehe. (LCA pics are of CRX arms as I only have crappy pics of the DC2 application.)

RR98ITR

Au Contraire! It's ALL about "enhancing stability", a subtle and qualitative approach to the performance driving experience. Compliance bushings can be "specially tuned", whereas sphericals cannot be tuned at all, hence they are not really a true "tuner" part now are they? No, they aren't! Fine points such as this are key to the development of discriminating taste and cultivation of an image to be envied by others. Speed and style...and the envy of others...it was available on Acura showrooms from 1997 to 2001...we shall not see such days again...

Scott, who admonishes Type-R owners to heed warnings against modification of the Type-R, it being perfect to begin with and therefore only detriment can result...and I'm not just saying that because my own only seems to come further apart over time...detriment if ever there was!

Jimmy

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I just noticed the part numbers for the type R and non-R front lower control arms are indeed the same..

Thanks for you replies guys..

ChrisB, unfortunately it is a street car.. only tracked once, twice a year.

chrisb

Scott, when I get some money I am going to ask you for your address. I will fly up there and promptly kick you in the nads. After which we can drink beer and discuss how the Type R can nevar lose.

P.S. Good man Jimmy. I won't knowingly sell my parts for use on a street car. Hell, I could run my own parts for the price of the metal plus bearings (which are damn expensive actually) on my street Integra and I run stock bushings. No sense in running sphericals on a street driven car. They are sex on a dedicated race/track car though. Especially with the Aurora Performance Racing Series and NHBB (New Hampshire Ball Bearing) stuff I use.

RR98ITR

I probably wouldn't even notice. They're numb you know.

BTW...I've been thinking...

Are your parts JDM? I didn't think so.

Are they made by robots? Are you a robot? Without getting too philosophical, which I'm very tempted to do, I don't think so.

Are they socially responsible? Cradle to Cradle? Green anodized at least? Uh-huh.

So let me get this right...you, an American fitting the descriptions I hear on Top Gear, making parts with bearings made in New Hampshire, where the only other thing they make is ice cream with psychedically ghey flavors, unrobotically, and without the blessing of the Ministry of JDM or even the smallest percentage of JASMA, footprinting on the planet, whole milk, goat cheez, geodesic yurts, people running in socks with rubber soles, Donald Trump, windmills that aren't turning...

...crap, I forgot the question. Kick me again, maybe I'll remember.

Scott, who is in a bad mood...I'm grappling with the recognition that I need to get the multiple of weight gain for the parts I make over the originals down into the single digits...I'm starting to see modern sports cars that weigh "only" three thousand pounds in a whole new light...

Atmosfear

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Scott, you had me after geodesic yurts.

Jimmy, something to consider is Steve at H-Motors sells used ITR front LCA's with the compliance bushings still attached for something like $50.

I got a set for the rally car a while back and they looked damn near brand new.

FWIW, Chris's work is top notch. His compliance bearings are absolutely awesome and to the best of my knowledge he is the only one offering such a service to the compliance bushings.

RR98ITR

Agreed. Chris' compliance bushing mod is sano.

Scott, who is still staring at his LCA..."space, the final frontier"...

Austin

I'm running the Compliance Bushing, I love it, good piece, thanks to Chris for the quick turnaround and awesome customer service.

dyingwish

I am another in the camp using Chris' compliance bearing. Grade-A piece, and the service couldn't be better!

I immediately noticed my car settle down, pre-aero. Braking consistency, and stutter over oblique bumps at speed were the best I'd felt in my own car. I took about a lap to feel the difference, the data afterward sealed it for me.

BTW, I owe you some images Chris....check your sandbox PM's in a bit.

SPiFF

+1 for Chris' parts. I have been running all of his parts on the front end of my ITS GSR for a little over a year. The compliance bearing was the biggest change to the cars handling last year. As dyingwish said it settles the car down a lot. For me it was most noticeable under breaking and in the high speed transitions like Road Atlanta T3, VIR T10 (south bend), and VIR T17 (hog pen). I have back to back data of ~5 mph gain in RA T3. Parts have help up really well hopping curbs some some off track excursions.

Some vids.

VIR: http://www.vimeo.com/23463053
RA: http://www.vimeo.com/16552738
RA bumper: http://www.vimeo.com/13479693

Jimmy

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All this positive feedback has pinged my interest, what are the cons to running your setup on a street car?

Thanks man, I will check into it.. Steve gave me a really good deal my 98 spec b18c-r.. great customer service as well.

Thanks for the feedback



Very nice!

Specs on your setup/engine?

forbiddenera

6 months later ish

I don't know why so many people knocked the ES bushings. I can't really compare to new oem bushings but compared to the worn ones they replaced the difference was night and day. Was definitely worth the money and effort. So far they've held up fine too, none look any worse than when first installed.

Replacing my bushings in the front so far is the single largest difference in how my car handles since I've started on it.