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Old 03-27-2006, 12:03 PM
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Default Did I receive the wrong spring? Weird Ground Control Part # for 450lb rear civic spring

According to ground-control-store.com, I received the wrong spring.

I asked for 400lb front and 450 rear.

The rears are 7 inches tall w/ 2.5 inch ID

The part number of the rears I received is 180.64.75
According to the website it should have been 0700.250.0450

The part number for my fronts is 0700.250.0400, which is right I think.

I tried to find the part number on the site that i received and had no luck.
Help me out here so I don't call these guys and look like and idiot. I'd rather do it anonymously over the internet.
Old 03-27-2006, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: Did I receive the wrong spring? Weird Ground Control Part # for 450lb rear civic spring (broken

The forum FAQ has a link for spring rate conversions in it.
Old 03-27-2006, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: Did I receive the wrong spring? Weird Ground Control Part # for 450lb rear civic spring (broken

I belive GC springs come in 2 different ways of part numbers. So you may have gotten the right springs.


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Looks like the #s are just in metric.

180mm ~= 7 in
64 mm = 2.5 in
75 N/mm ~= 428 lb/in

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FlyZlow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like the #s are just in metric.

180mm ~= 7 in
64 mm = 2.5 in
75 N/mm ~= 428 lb/in

- Scott</TD></TR></TABLE>

****..... if only you could figure stuff out when *we* are doing *my* homework! I knew you were smart, I really did..

Ehhh.. your wife still owns both of us!

all the other regions are wishing they had camaraderie like us! Race together and then help with homeowork!!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FlyZlow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like the #s are just in metric.

180mm ~= 7 in
64 mm = 2.5 in
75 N/mm ~= 428 lb/in

- Scott</TD></TR></TABLE>

75 N/mm ~= 431 lb/in

Funny that they are using N/mm. I thought I was the only one that had to deal with converting the numbers being that I am using German stuff!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DMF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ehhh.. your wife still owns both of us!
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Heh. Yeah, we both suck at your homework, but Alisha's a badass. She actually misses school. Can you believe that ****? You'd have to pay me well into the six figures for me to even consider going back to school. I couldn't wait to get out of that hell. I do miss the college lifestyle though.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prkiller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">75 N/mm ~= 431 lb/in</TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends on where you round.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FlyZlow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I do miss the college lifestyle though.
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I wont tell Alisha that!
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Default Re: Did I receive the wrong spring? Weird Ground Control Part # for 450lb rear civic spring (broken

Google says
75 (newton per mm) = 428.261037 lbs / in

http://www.google.com/search?h...%2Fin
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris F &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Google says
75 (newton per mm) = 428.261037 lbs / in

http://www.google.com/search?h...%2Fin</TD></TR></TABLE>

Interesting. I was told the conversion is 5.75. It says the conversion is 5.71.
Thank you for the correction!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prkiller &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting. I was told the conversion is 5.75. It says the conversion is 5.71.
Thank you for the correction! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Google calculator is your friend.

10 kg/mm in lb/in
(559.974146 pound / in)

2*pi
(6.28318531)

500 Canadian Dollars in Mexican Pesos
(4 664.05784 Mexican pesos, standard disclaimers apply)

140 miles per hour in furlongs per fortnight
(376 320 furlongs per fortnight)

sine(30 degrees)
(0.5)

(3^2 + 4^2) ^0.5
(5)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by brokenojoke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">According to ground-control-store.com, I received the wrong spring.

I asked for 400lb front and 450 rear.

The rears are 7 inches tall w/ 2.5 inch ID

The part number of the rears I received is 180.64.75
According to the website it should have been 0700.250.0450

The part number for my fronts is 0700.250.0400, which is right I think.

I tried to find the part number on the site that i received and had no luck.
Help me out here so I don't call these guys and look like and idiot. I'd rather do it anonymously over the internet. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's quite amusing because I was in the same situation and received the same springs. Last summer, I called up to order 450 front, 400 rear, and Jay recommended I try their barrel spring option for the front at 440lb. I gave it a try and only recently found out (last month) that the spring rate was a little bit softer than I originally specified. Car drives fine, so I have no need to complain.

I wish GC had a better website that covered their product line more accurately. The 180.64.75 isn’t even shown nor is a listing of other GC specific springs.
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Default Re: Did I receive the wrong spring? Weird Ground Control Part # for 450lb rear civic spring (broken

Thanks for all the post guys.... I think I'll give them a shot. I'm just going off here-say as far as a "good track spring rate".

Just had to ask because GC doesn't list the spring on their site like the post above mentions.

THANKS!
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Default Re: Did I receive the wrong spring? Weird Ground Control Part # for 450lb rear civic spring (broken

GC uses Eibach springs, so those are eibach numbers, not GC numbers. I have never seen a metric eibach though.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ewaugh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GC uses Eibach springs, so those are eibach numbers, not GC numbers. I have never seen a metric eibach though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Kinda. As I understand it, these barrel springs with the metric specs are made exclusively for Ground Control. At least, that's what I was told by one of the GC reps.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ewaugh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GC uses Eibach springs, so those are eibach numbers, not GC numbers. I have never seen a metric eibach though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wrong. GC uses our ERS springs and we make custom springs to GC's specs as well. The custom springs have a metric part number (ex: GC180.64.44).

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecvoodoo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wrong. GC uses our ERS springs and we make custom springs to GC's specs as well. The custom springs have a metric part number (ex: GC180.64.44).

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Sweet, I was right.
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