What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
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What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
FIRST off i know that this is the wrong place to put this. I just wanted faster results from the midwest people and what they know. THanks
they are suppose to recaro brackets or what not and obviously theyre different from one another
so i purchased these from a ht'er(will post name if its not resolved)
i purchased these recaro rails hoping it would fit mine. Well one did without a doubt, but yet the other one doesnt. Im confused on what to do. They are totally different and im not sure what to do about this matter. Please help me figure out which rails these are.
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One sits lower than the other too
inner rails are different and dont fit?
the ones on the outside are the ones that actually fit but the ones in the middle are completely different from the outside ones. I cant seem to figure out which ones these are? As you can see that the rails are completely different and what not. The previous owner before he sold it to me stated that they came off the recaros he had which i dont doubt. But ive never seen different rails on the same seats>CONFUSED?
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they are suppose to recaro brackets or what not and obviously theyre different from one another
so i purchased these from a ht'er(will post name if its not resolved)
i purchased these recaro rails hoping it would fit mine. Well one did without a doubt, but yet the other one doesnt. Im confused on what to do. They are totally different and im not sure what to do about this matter. Please help me figure out which rails these are.
thanks
One sits lower than the other too
inner rails are different and dont fit?
the ones on the outside are the ones that actually fit but the ones in the middle are completely different from the outside ones. I cant seem to figure out which ones these are? As you can see that the rails are completely different and what not. The previous owner before he sold it to me stated that they came off the recaros he had which i dont doubt. But ive never seen different rails on the same seats>CONFUSED?
HELP
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Re: What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
I'm pretty sure one of the mounts on the driver or passenger side (forgot which) is actually on a steeper incline like that if you go take a look. I'm only suggesting it because this is something I would do without a thought, but maybe the one that went in happens to fit but belongs on the other side. Sounds dumb, I know, but again, it's something I would do.
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I'm pretty sure one of the mounts on the driver or passenger side (forgot which) is actually on a steeper incline like that if you go take a look. I'm only suggesting it because this is something I would do without a thought, but maybe the one that went in happens to fit but belongs on the other side. Sounds dumb, I know, but again, it's something I would do.
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Re: What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
I sold him the brackets right off 2 JDM Evo IV Recaro's right out of a DC Integra so I know they fit, that's not even a question. I'll explain why too...despite being different style, look at the bolt patterns on top. They are exactly the same...for Recaro's. You do realize the holes aren't lined up in the picture because you didn't slide it over right? These are sliders, not fixed brackets. The edge of the bracket, etc doesn't matter. All that matters is the bolt spacing from each other and width (which I measured for you prior to sale.)
This is the actual bracket on the drivers side. Passenger side mounts the same way!
Here is my illustration on your picture:
How is it "completely different" like you say when the holes all line up with each other?
Line the holes up, mount them to the seat, then slide the sliders one direction to sync them up before you tie them together. Assemble them first before jumping to conclusions. I don't know what you're not getting but we'll find out.
Also, you asked me for measurements and I gave you measurements. If you have real JDM Recaros like you say, then why are you drilling holes 2" away from the original?
This is the actual bracket on the drivers side. Passenger side mounts the same way!
Here is my illustration on your picture:
How is it "completely different" like you say when the holes all line up with each other?
Line the holes up, mount them to the seat, then slide the sliders one direction to sync them up before you tie them together. Assemble them first before jumping to conclusions. I don't know what you're not getting but we'll find out.
Also, you asked me for measurements and I gave you measurements. If you have real JDM Recaros like you say, then why are you drilling holes 2" away from the original?
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Re: What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
I sold him the brackets right off 2 JDM Evo IV Recaro's right out of a DC Integra so I know they fit, that's not even a question. I'll explain why too...despite being different style, look at the bolt patterns on top. They are exactly the same...for Recaro's. You do realize the holes aren't lined up in the picture because you didn't slide it over right? These are sliders, not fixed brackets. The edge of the bracket, etc doesn't matter. All that matters is the bolt spacing from each other and width (which I measured for you prior to sale.)
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Re: What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
The brackets themselves are not Recaro's but they fit Recaros. That's the point I'm trying to make. 2 of the brackets may be EK brackets but all I know is they came out of a DC Integra. I took them off myself and boxed them up. They may be different styles but they work. They were mounted on 2 JDM Recaro's. I'm not trying to get over on anyone for $100 by sending out rails that don't work.
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Re: What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
He knew they came off JDM Recaro's and I sold them as "JDM Recaro DC rails/sliders". They are stock rails for JDM Recaro's not aftermarket. That's not the issue here though. The issue here is whether or not they fit lol. Tell me how can both sets of rails have the same bolt pattern yet only 1 set works with his seats? We're talking rail to seat...not rail to chassis.
Study this picture.
You see those extra holes he drilled on the bottom? about 2" away from the stock location? Common sense says that he has to drill those same holes on the other brackets for his seats to work. That means that he's trying to mount seats that don't have the same "recaro" pattern. Is this my fault when I gave him measurements before purchase? No. Now looking at the picture, there is hardly enough metal in the area he needs to drill which is probably why he wants to just give the rails back saying they don't work and are completely different instead of dealing with his mistake. His mistake because he shouldn't have to drill any extra holes if he has JDM Recaro's. Understand?
Study this picture.
You see those extra holes he drilled on the bottom? about 2" away from the stock location? Common sense says that he has to drill those same holes on the other brackets for his seats to work. That means that he's trying to mount seats that don't have the same "recaro" pattern. Is this my fault when I gave him measurements before purchase? No. Now looking at the picture, there is hardly enough metal in the area he needs to drill which is probably why he wants to just give the rails back saying they don't work and are completely different instead of dealing with his mistake. His mistake because he shouldn't have to drill any extra holes if he has JDM Recaro's. Understand?
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Re: What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
BTW, the EK guys can't even say if they are in fact EK rails but if they were, only 3 of the bolt holes line up to the chassis and the inner rail would have to be switched for all 4 to mount. Again, we're not talking about that, we're talking about bracket to seat.
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Re: What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
The fact that you had advertised them as "DC2 Recaro double sliders and rails" instead of "sliders and brackets from Recaro evo seats for a DC2 (some drilling required)" would sufficiently **** me off enough to expect a refund.
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Re: What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
I'm waiting for HRS Parker to post some pics of his seats.
Here's a pic of another bottom mount Recaro...
and another...
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i will post them when i get back this weekend, trust me, you sold me one side that just pretty much is not for my car when you told me they were. Even if youre telling me that theyre both recaro rails one is a EK which obviously wont fit. I will test them on monday when i get back. To tell you even if it fits the chassis.
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Re: What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
Are you guys even reading my posts? and the evidence I'm showing? FACT 1: They came out of a DC integra which also fits EG. FACT 2: They were mounted on JDM Recaros (3 bolts each side). FACT 3: I measured the distance between holes for him to make sure he knew what he was getting. FACT 4: He then drills his own holes in the brackets. Why? He shouldn't have to. He claims 1 side fits and the other is completely different? hmmmm....strange right? Especially after I measured both bracket holes center to center and gave him exact measurements and they were the same.
Just by looking at the photos, you can tell that those brackets came off Recaro's. If for some reason his seats have a different bolt pattern, I'm still not liable. He asked me to measure them, I did, and he accepted them. Then he has to drill his own holes? What does that tell you? I have it all in PM's. So now we're waiting on him to take pictures of the actual problem, not just the brackets. Why's it taking so long? If it happened to me I would have taken pictures right away and they'd be the first picture up in the first post. So let's see some pics of the good seat/bracket too and see what the difference is.
Just by looking at the photos, you can tell that those brackets came off Recaro's. If for some reason his seats have a different bolt pattern, I'm still not liable. He asked me to measure them, I did, and he accepted them. Then he has to drill his own holes? What does that tell you? I have it all in PM's. So now we're waiting on him to take pictures of the actual problem, not just the brackets. Why's it taking so long? If it happened to me I would have taken pictures right away and they'd be the first picture up in the first post. So let's see some pics of the good seat/bracket too and see what the difference is.
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Re: What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
I updated it after they sold so the text is gone but the picture shows exactly what you're getting so there's no misunderstanding. Apparently, that doesn't matter these days. That happens to be the drivers seat but the other looked the same so there was no need to put up 2 pics.
Here's a pic of the outside rails. Completely different? yeah right.
Here's a pic of the 2 JDM seats with the centers recovered.
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LMFAO>>look at it>seriously, they are two different rails> as much as the holes could even come close>which they really dont>>wow>>i must say this is getting worse than what i thought>you sent me rails thinking they were a same set(my fault i didnt ask)but thinking if they came from the same set of seats they would be the same. They are nothing close to being the same. Height, width, holes, etc. Seriously. Ive never F***ed anyone over. Never have i mislead someone or gave faulty products to anyone. This is obviously faulty, when one doesnt match the other. ODD isnt it? Maybe if they were the same set of rails and i told you both didnt fit, then you would have nothing to complain about. But when i told you that one fits which i have no problem about(not complaining on one but the (other one) YES>completely different in structure and what not. You can see it without question. PERIOD
Im trying to be reasonable with you but you are being inconsiderate on this matter as you can see the difference in the rails.
Im trying to be reasonable with you but you are being inconsiderate on this matter as you can see the difference in the rails.
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Re: What rails are these Recaros? Did I get RIPPED?
One set is taller, slightly different design but works the same. Anyway, I've argued my points over and over. I'm actually trying to help you out by getting to the bottom of this but you keep insisting that I'm trying to rip you off by sending 2 different Honda rails which is laughable to me since I don't even own a Honda (which was a CRX) anymore and have no such parts to even mix them up with. I'm trying to get down to the problem which I believe is ultimately on your end. Show me pics of the problem along with both seats, front and bottom then we'll go from there.
The reason why I'm pissed is I've measured the holes for you before you bought them and you agreed to buy them. Then you drilled your own holes in the brackets. Can't get the other ones to work for some reason (didn't show any proof) and now want a full refund? LOL
How is it my fault if they don't work for him?
The reason why I'm pissed is I've measured the holes for you before you bought them and you agreed to buy them. Then you drilled your own holes in the brackets. Can't get the other ones to work for some reason (didn't show any proof) and now want a full refund? LOL
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