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Old 03-23-2015, 11:03 PM
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There are several other updates, I will post as I have time
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Way glad to see you getting her tuned up! Also glad that we still have a few folks on here keeping HT alive, lol.

Let me get this straight though....You don't have 3" exhaust, or a decent header as of yet. And the stock throttle body. That thing should put down some great numbers with those added on! The dynapacks do read a bit lower don't they....? I was kind of let down reading you had cams but only pulled 187hp :\ Either way, I bet it pulls like a beast!
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Hey man, I updated my post with the graph. In the "note", I put, "For reference, a K20 type R with I/H/E tuned on kpro (tuned elsewhere) baselined at 164hp, while a K20Z1 with I/H dynoed 176hp. Numbers are just numbers, but just for reference." This info is from the tuner's Facebook.

So yeah, the dyno reads really low! Numbers aren't everything, but I see what you mean about the cams. Everything has to work together as a system, and right now the cams can't be fully "functional" power-wise since there is a great restriction on the intake and exhaust sides. Once these are rectified, expect to see over 200whp from this simple set-up!
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I don't know whats wrong with that dyno session but the H22 makes that stock in it's lowest trim package??????
Hope you get those cams working where they should. Good to see things are running now.

How does the traction bar fit? Is there tire contact?
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I don't know whats wrong with that dyno session but the H22 makes that stock in it's lowest trim package??????
Hope you get those cams working where they should. Good to see things are running now.

How does the traction bar fit? Is there tire contact?
Stock H22's don't make anywhere near that...

On a "regular" dyno, a VERY healthy H22A may make 170-175whp. To further give an understanding of how low this dyno reads, an H22 with I/H/E and all accessories made 155hp on Jorge's dyno. I didn't post this figure in my previous comment, because I had trouble finding that Facebook post again, but I saw it just a couple days ago.

Perhaps you are thinking of the stock BHP, which is 200??

It's not a full traction bar, it's just the front crossmember with a mount. Unfortunately, Innovative doesn't make a full traction bar kit for my application. The mount/bar fits very well, but the mount part is RIGHT next to the radiatior. Barely fits lol
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Only reason I was saying was my JDM H22A that I swapped into my 91 Accord is listed to have 195hp and some upper package is rated to 205hp.
Possibly I am not understanding that the hp you listed for us was wheel rated hp which I can see is different than crank output. I just think that the Skunk cams have alot of room to be set right to give you a wheel hp rating much higher than what was recorded first.

PS no need to be defensive if that is what is coming across (ASSumed of course). Though Endyn has made a "very healthy" 2.0l B all naturally aspirated to produce 298hp. Perhaps his was super ridiculously healthy. Jus being funny friend.
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Only reason I was saying was my JDM H22A that I swapped into my 91 Accord is listed to have 195hp and some upper package is rated to 205hp.
Possibly I am not understanding that the hp you listed for us was wheel rated hp which I can see is different than crank output. I just think that the Skunk cams have alot of room to be set right to give you a wheel hp rating much higher than what was recorded first.

PS no need to be defensive if that is what is coming across (ASSumed of course). Though Endyn has made a "very healthy" 2.0l B all naturally aspirated to produce 298hp. Perhaps his was super ridiculously healthy. Jus being funny friend.
It seems my stating facts always comes across as defensive or offensive when conversing over the interwebz I need to look into why that is. Anyways, The horsepower I have listed is the same as seen on the dyno printout, it is "hub" horsepower (I won't call it whp because I didn't have wheels on). crank horsepower for an h22 is in the 200bhp ballpark, while whp is generally around 170whp in Preludes. On the H-Car dyno, an H22 with bolt-ons made 155 "hub" hp. My h22 made 189. So you could say, that with my mods this h22 made over 34 hp over a stock h22. Hope this clears up any confusion lol
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Indeed. I was just playing with you Tracer. We haven't been in a thread for a while.
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Indeed. I was just playing with you Tracer. We haven't been in a thread for a while.
I know! I'm mostly on when I'm at work and don't have much to do. But, the last 3-4 weeks I wasn't at work, which is why I was absent from here. But I'm back for the next couple months
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One of the things I did before taking the car to get tuned was I redid the timing belt tension a few times just to make sure it was 100% correct. While the belt was off, I decided to install the new KaizenSpeed Walk Blocker. Before installation my timing belt was slightly starting to hang off the cam gears, which is not satisfactory. After the installation of the walk blocker, the timing belt now sits a few millimeters away from the edge of the cam gear.

Installation was simple and straightforward. The second picture shows everything needed for the job, minus cleaning alcohol. KaizenSpeed supplies the JBWeld, which is nice. KS has a video on YouTube showing how to install it, so I won't go into detail on that. Basically just clean, apply JBWeld, and wack the blocker on with your deadblow hammer. Simple.

One thing that was cool to see about the Walk Blocker that KaizenSpeed doesn't show you in the video, is that the inside groove which mates to the tensioner pulley has ridges in it (first picture), this way the JBWeld adheres to the surface very well. Another nice touch is a beveled edge so your belt turns with smooth operation. All in all a simple but great product
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I'll be changing this oil for AMSOIL soon, need to check for more metal shavings in the pan while I'm at it, but at least I found some zinc additive laying around.

Check out those Si tails

WireWorx headlight harness....

...and F7 LCAs
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Got some OEM headlight accessories- gromets and turn signal sockets- from BKHondaParts.

A pic of when I leakdown tested my motor. Results were extremely healthy:
#1- 97/100
#2- 97/100
#3- 96/100
#4- 98/100

I got the Miller Syncrowave 210 a couple months ago, and unfortunately I still haven't been able to use it! Out of all my days off, I have literally only had two where I could have welded, but wussed out :/ it doesn't help that I'm keeping it out at my dad's place, so it isn't exactly right next to me to fool around with. But I am determined to start welding next time I'm off work.
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New welder eh..
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98vtec's thread inspired me to finally get the ball rolling and purchase it, and now that I have it I still haven't used it lol


Got a couple of new rare parts coming, BNIB too. Hint: they go with my wheels

Speaking of wheels, I'll be getting new tires, unfortunately. When I got the current tires (215/45r16) I thought they were the same diameter as the tires that were on before, and thus would fill out the wheel wells perfect. However, they are about an inch less in diameter, and so I have pretty big fender gap (about 1.5"- see pics). I can't lower the car anymore either -not that I would want to- because it appears the GC coil sleeves are maxed out. The discrepancy in tire size comes from the fact that the car came with 17" wheels, and I moved down to 16", while trying to keep the same tire diameter but also go with a wider size up front. And tire sizing is somewhat confusing.

Soooo......my new tires will be 225/50 all around, Azenis rt615k up front, and I think Yokohama in the rear, bringing tire diameter to 24.9" as opposed to the current 23.6"
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Very nice
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Weird, my Tein SS are barely maxed and I am almost tucking tire with a 205/45/16 tire.

great job so far man!! I'm glad it's off the dyno
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Thanks guys! It's such a relief having the dyno tuning done with, It's kind of a stressfull all day affair having to trailer it 1.5 hrs away and hoping everything goes right. And yeah, after looking at it some more it looks like theres a couple more threads left on the sleeves, maybe the nut is rusted to the sleeve? Idk. Doesn't matter since I'm getting bigger tires anyway.

Tires which are actually out of stock from Vulcan Tire and I REFUSE to pay the ridiculous prices everyone else wants. Thanks to someone on another thread, I realized that the correct tire size I need is actually 215/45r16, which caused me to look back at my tires again....... My current tires are 205, not 215! Thank God that He kept me from buying the 225/50s, I would have been pretty angry at myself and another $550 out of pocket....

So no real big updates yet, other than my very rare wheel accessories came in, which I'll show when I get new tires put on. Oil field has slowed down a ton, I've taken a pay cut and an hours cut, but thank God I still cut even (with some money to spare). Our company went from well over 100 workers in the field to just 21 workers, me being one of them, so I am grateful
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Going home tonight, and should be there for a week and a half or so, my goal is to make the car fully streetable in that time:

Weld up 2.75" collector mod on header and install Skunk2 megapower R exhaust

Get insurance and stickers

Hopefully get bigger tires. I looked at three popular sites online to find that they don't even carry 215/45r16. Hopefully I will find a place locally
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No huge updates concerning the car. Got the new tires on the the wheels. I've been going through a very painful thing in my life, God is really working on me. So I haven't done much. But here's some eye candy for viewing my thread-
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I know them feelz too. Very hard trials going on here likewise. Getting along though also.
Growing and realizing your limits aren't God's limits are tough.
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Amen. Idk what your support is like, but message me if you ever need to talk.
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I do appreciate that offer and may take you up.
I do not church right now which is a plus and negative. I thought I was growing through some people issues but I found myself pushed too far and saw my darkside take on it's old part.
Inlaws well out staying their welcome, broke and offering nuthing but chaos and messes and hands out for more everything had me going Hiroshima a time or two. I had no back and was easily singled out as the bad guy (whatever), I know I am not but was pushed into a corner in my own home, it was go time.
Three months of that until just this last Thursday was almost enough to hurt my marriage. It has taken me away from my drag car and left me with some real new wisdom about being around people and offering them your time and money. A wife that is always trying to save the world is never there when the family is in real crisis and gets neglected because of the efforts she makes being an enabler to dysfunctional people on a regular basis. I just called her friends up and said she can't come out to play anymore. That went over well (sarcasm), but is improving and she is more on board than ever before. So, some real good is coming out of these battles, but I am still guilty of how I handled myself and more aware of my faults. Change, spiritual change seems very hard some days, even when you are with all the knowledge needed to grow.
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Oh man, that sounds really tough. I know exactly what you mean by being singled out as the bad guy, when you feel (er, are) looking at the situation through a realistic lens, but others just aren't seeing it. I can only imagine how difficult in-laws make that situation. I just went through a terrible break up with the girl I want to marry. Not terrible in the sense that she did me wrong or anything, but that God is the one who separated us. It became apparent to me very soon after that I wasn't leading the way I should, or really at all. Losing the woman I love is by far the hardest thing I've had to go through in my short time here.

But it seems in both our cases, that God has used hardship in our lives to show us glaring faults that we maybe hadn't noticed before, so that they can be rectified so that we can be holy to Him. I don't know when it gets better, or if it ever will, but I know I now know what it is to turn whole heartedly to Him
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I am very sorry for the loss of your friend and companion. In all my years I will have to say without exception that heart ache is the very worst pain in the world to experience, followed by severe trauma and regret. At least you are lacking the trauma I asume, but I do fully understand your pain.

Those glaring faults you mentioned, I believe I understand also. I have had some thoughts on my spiritual growth over the years since my conversion and have to rework the chemistry as it were.
I believed that removing myself from desperate people that engaged in questionable activities would be a way to ween me away from partaking. In some ways it was very good and allowed me to grow in knowledge but under the surface I still felt my flesh creeping through it's cycles and denying it for the most part. But, when my environment was turned into a mad house (believe me, no exaggeration) I retreated into a small space to cope and was regularly drawn out to engage in crazy. I found an old defense mechanism that never went away, just resting, anger. I bred it for the removal of the obstacles in my home and applied it with precise destructive results. It seems easy enough to put it away now, but the consequences are evident. I have a channel to my prior self as open as a 4G network and that disturbs me.
Do I suffer this bad programming for this entire life?
Am I expected to be able to remove it by faith?
Will this flesh be the end of my salvation?

I thought better of myself and felt better before this trial cracked the ceiling. I will repent. I may recover my self esteem in His presence. Not pride, just the humbleness in being able to converse without the shame of my doings. I also have begun to curse like a sailor again which I hate. I don't mind putting this out on this thread of yours unless you would rather have a private discussion. Never know how this woe may be helpful to someone going through the same.
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It is fine to post this on my thread. This thread is not for my car, but for people.

I can't say for you whether this flesh will be the end of your salvation or not. I think each man has his own amount of revelation given to him, and must be obedient to Christ concerning that revelation. For instance, if a man is on his deathbed and accepts Christ for the first time, he won't get revelation concerning his deepest darkest fleshly sin, and so won't be able to allow Christ to work on him before he dies. However, because he has faith in the Lord, and by His grace, he is saved. On the other hand, a man who is walking with Christ many years will be shown many things in himself which are not right, and every attempt should be made by that man, by God's leading and grace, to die to such fleshly faults. So, I don't believe anyone has to suffer bad programming their entire life. Sorry to preach, just bouncing ideas off you


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