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Old 01-03-2012, 07:46 PM
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^^^^^^ wtf up ray ? its tony... whats up with that intake mani ? deatails....
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just an xcessive two piece with velocity stack hood exit intake manifold with some nozzles...
your on here g23 reading arent ya tony? lol
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yes i am..... i really thinking about doing one. i will find out in the next week or so it that dude is going to come off that f23 cheap enuff for me to go grab it up. Plus i have TONS of b-series parts i am trying to sell to finance the whole g23 build
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Oh so this is your build goldluderay that's a creative manifold there i wish i had money to have my own garage full of goodies to fabricate and help with my build but i don't. All i have is my mother in laws garage and two hands lol. I bet you with that 170 shot you might just be shy of 450whp. Good stuff shoot i'll be lucky to get 200whp and a similar amount of torque with my setup but i doubt it. some guy built one and he had a f22a6 head with a 272 cam regrind on his f23 and k20 pistons he made 191whp. So i don't know hopefully i get similar numbers but i have to get to a dyno first.
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i bet with the charger you will make over 200whp....
if im not over 450whp i will just add more nitrous lol...my compression isnt over the top and neither are my cams so i will start upping the shot once i get some decent times and feal for the car..

it made 400whp on a 150shot on a type s pistoned h22 stock bore and stroke..around 12.0.1cr for that motor...by the weight and my best trap speed of 127mph the 400whp dyno was close to on par too what it made....
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Oh well never mind you'll definitely be in the 450+whp dam that's gonna be a mid 10 sec car there i can't wait to see that. Mine with the supercharger will deff be at 200+ but all motor i doubt it even though it's a 95mm stroke and 11.78:1 compression. I know for sure you can push out like 475whp on that 170 shot i almost forgot the block was sleeved and worked a little.
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im hopeing too be in the mid 10's this year and try and keep ticking it down with more juice little by little...i will drop some more weight as well if i can get in the mid 10's...
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whats your cam timmig set at ? i seen a dyno where the dude had his set at +7 int and 0 exh.... its interesting it takes that much cam timing......
Old 01-10-2012, 04:44 AM
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thats wierd tony i wonder if he didnt have the cam degreed in very well...mine liked 0,-1...only picked up 2whp over 0,0 though...we tried some other setting ans some could match 0,0 but some setting actually made it loose power as well...
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https://honda-tech.com/forums/all-motor-naturally-aspirated-44/g23-vtec-street-build-dyno-2781266/

there is the build. he had type s cams
Old 01-11-2012, 04:38 AM
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yeah pirate's car..he has done alot for the g23 stuff...that is weird on the cam gears...i wonder if he adjusted them that way for power and tq down low..i know he is a fan of huge street tq, i dont think he drag races alot..or maybe the g23 has something different going on compared to the normal h22 on cam timing? i have never dyno'ed the g23 in my lude yet so we will se what happens when im there...
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Originally Posted by PirateMcFred
I adjusted them to +7˚IN because I lost no power and gained 10+wtq:
http://i45.tinypic.com/6z7cl1.gif
With +10˚IN I hit 195wtq but lost something like 10whp at the last 1000rpm.

I didn't degree the cams. They're Type-S and I have virtually no data on JDM factory valve opening/closing events with which to degree them to. I went 0,0,0 on all pullies and set my base ign. timing. On the dyno I tried advance/retard on both cams compensating for fuel and ign. timing when necessary. +7˚IN/0˚EX was the best compromise for power/torque. It might be completely different for cars with a different header/collector. IDK. That's what Dynamometers are for.

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cool. thanks for the explaination
Old 03-08-2012, 02:13 PM
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lets get this thread back up and going...
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mind if i ask ecu you're going to use?and do you think a p28 would work?
another question is this, what if the block is say f23a1 and the head is h22a? since the h22a is jdm would it still work?just wondering because i have both of these motors and was thinking of doing this build still.
and would the g23 fit in a civic without major modifications?
sorry for jacking this thread and thanks for the info
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not sure if it's common knowledge yet, but it looks like Race Eng. is selling F23 rods

http://www.raceeng.com/p-14357-race-...bolts-set.aspx
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not sure if it's common knowledge yet, but it looks like Race Eng. is selling F23 rods

http://www.raceeng.com/p-14357-race-...bolts-set.aspx
damm bro its about time. the next cheapest rods would be GRP alum. rods for 6 bills. thanks for the link.
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i have some more done to mine...the red top one is an g22t

i made the down pipe for the g22t
sorry for the crappy cell phon pic
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Hey guys, I hate to enter a thread with a request, but here goes.
I'm seriously considering building a G23 (F23 block, crank, and rods; K20 pistons; H22 head; All subject to change), so I'm gathering research and compiling a parts list atm. If i can find the info I need I would love to give back to the community with pics and knowledge. Right now I'm investigating the K20 pistons with the H22 head. Could someone please CONFIRM for me that stock K20A2 pistons will not have valve clearance/relief angle issues.

I would love to go with something like the Wiseco forged set, but I'm wanting to START on a more modest budget with this build, and $500 pistons are a bad way to start planning this.

I believe I'm reading that others have successfully used stock pistons, just asking for a bit of confirmation.

And no, I haven't decided cams and I know that affects valve clearance etc. But if the stock cams will at least work, then I have enough confidence to proceed...

EDIT: Finally got that article on ImportTuner to load properly, so I got the answer I wanted. If/when this project happens, I may be back

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like the progress......
Old 05-17-2012, 04:18 PM
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ok guys, i am currently building my g23. i cant figure out which oil drain holes on h22 head to plug. i think the ones that are on the right side of the head when flipped lookin at the exhaust side. top and bottom of cours on the inside. but im not sure. and lastly, my block is bored to 86.5mm and that does not leave a lot of room for me to swap pistons like k20s and what not. any direction for me to head in, i want to turbo but with the stock oversized pistons im not sure what boost they can handle.....f23a1 block, kaizen speed bs delete, full rebuild bearings ect, and new 86.5mm pistons.
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Gents-

I have a 97 Prelude with a tired H22a4... I picked up a 2001 F23A1 last night for 175.00. I have it all torn down and ready to go to the machine shop.





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my build plans f23a1 block, bs delete, no a/c or p/s k20a2 pistons and arp rod bolts, h23a blue top head all new gaskets, aem fuel rail and fpr, 68mm thorottle body, h22 intake manifold (for now), QSD h2b kit, ls tranny with LSD
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this is an old thread and it has died. partly because the lack of info ont his build, and because me as the original poster had stopped commenting. my little brother lost interest in the build for a while do to some personal stuff. getting back into it slowly now in a total different direction. just acquired some used maxi-lite f23 rods from a friend with less the 400 miles on them for under 400. now looking for some off the shelf pistons 13:1-14:1 and about to contact some companies to talk about some headers and cams and see if possibly get one of randy's intake manifolds. we'll see how things go though. one step at a time. ill try to begin posting more often about the build. it will not be done anytime soon though... also the shell was sold in hopes to find a 94-96 integra rs shell...
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I should have come back with news on my project... I finally got it built, finished last May. H22A1 head, K20A2 Pistons, F23A1 bottom... Dropped it in a 6th gen accord. Still kicks pretty hard, to be in a "family" car! Next stop is some decent cams, stronger rods, a different transmission, and maybe some exhaust or suspension work. 13-14:1 compression ratios, how does one manage something that high? Race Fuel? Extremely careful timing? I'm at ~11.5 static comp and I was a bit hesitant to go that high!
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I have my g23 at 12:1 compression with sk2 stage 2 cams using a prelude trans. I used the s300 and 239 on it. It's also in a 6th gen accord/ 4 door lol.. It's my daily but I wanted to find out if anyone else who's done this swap has experienced real loud noises coming from the engine while running idle. Random People here it and tend to think that my valves need to be adjusted but it was adjusted and the motor didn't lose power anywhere while getting tuned. It's just extremely loud at idle and seems to be coming right from the head. It's a little embarrassing, the explanation I got from my builder was that it's a hybrid that wasn't meant to be built at high compression with aggressive cams. any ideas? Has anyone experienced this or have suggestions? I have the Balance Shaft Eliminator kit on it too.


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