Bense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adirondackR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I will never sell my car - I will gut the **** out of it & make a track **** before I sell it...you never know a 250whp K could whoop a LS turbo too </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah. But ls swaps go for less than 1500. and you can get a good used turbo kit for 1000. stock motors are safe and very streetable with 250whp easily. You do the math.

The_Head

but LS swaps aren't unique, I think thats half the motivation of people today, Hybrid Hondas are so played out, people are trying to have something different. In time, the K swap will be common as well.

Bense

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The_Head &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but LS swaps aren't unique, I think thats half the motivation of people today, Hybrid Hondas are so played out, people are trying to have something different. In time, the K swap will be common as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree completely. However when we drive our cars. The engine does nothing but accelerate the car and keep it moving. Who cares how you get there? I realize the amazing potential of the k-series. But we're talking about a 4500-5000 dollars just to be unique when you pop the hood.

If it's a show car, this may be desirable. Bottom line, if you're seeking a certain whp, pick the cheapest, easiest route. If you want peoples jaw to drop when you pop your hood. Pick the most expensive route.

6SPD_EK

iTrader: (2)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I agree completely. However when we drive our cars. The engine does nothing but accelerate the car and keep it moving. Who cares how you get there? I realize the amazing potential of the k-series. But we're talking about a 4500-5000 dollars just to be unique when you pop the hood.

If it's a show car, this may be desirable. Bottom line, if you're seeking a certain whp, pick the cheapest, easiest route. If you want peoples jaw to drop when you pop your hood. Pick the most expensive route.</TD></TR></TABLE>

250 whp all motor does not = 250 whp turbo

EDIT - here is a k24 eg (under 250whp easy - prob under 220whp) vs 260+whp 355tq srt http://www.k20a.org/EGvsSRT.wmv &lt;--- may need to be a member to view

I bet a 250 whp all motor K could whoop a 300 whp turbo LS

why don't you add up the cost to make your LS 250whp all motor - different story now

not here to argue.... K series swaps are expensive - I know from 1st hand experience

1sikhatch

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">22 posts and nobody has given a legit response.

the f20c spins in a different direction than all the other honda motors. (f20c + h22 tranny = REVERSE!)
However since the k-series spin in the same direction there has been somone that ran an adapter plate on the f20c to run a k20 tranny all with custom mounts.

Yes it is possible. But it's not really feasible.

Another thing. I hate how everyone just throws about "just get a k and call it a day" The swaps are like 8000 dollars. Nobody wants to spend that much on a swap. Why? Because it's a 2000 dollar car with an 8000 dollar drive train. Good luck selling it for what you "invested" It's cheaper to just go turbo ls and you get better numbers in the end.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the info man.

k series swaps are so damn expensive so i dont wanna get into that, i am leaning more towards the f20b cause its cheaper and i think its a less complicated swap than the k unless i can get a real good deal on a built h22. i dont want another b series motor cause thats what im running now.

alex89

F20B with one off adapter plate for k20 (DC5 ITR) trans? The trans would likely cost the most, and the adaptor plate is almost guaranteed to be cheap, just get it made by a metalwork shop or machine shop. i doubt it will cost more than 300 for that plate even as a one off.
make like five and sell them to a couple other people across the states.
I was thinking of doing something similar by attempting to get plans drafted for a K2B swap, rotating the motor around so it sits like the K series, then attach everything with adapter plate and custom fab mounts. po-mans-K lol.

Hdeucedeuce

https://honda-tech.com/forums/drag-racing-36/inlinepro-f20-swap-into-eg-chassis-update-video-p-2250294/

surprised no one subscribes to honda tuning. this months issue gives details on selling the new f2k swap. (f20c - k20 tranny). the picture was in a eg shell

DropSquadCivic

^^ i was about to say...... the new honda tuning has pretty much a whole walk through on it

hondamark35

i recommend you spend some more time learning... F20B and K20 spin opposite directions. 5 (6?) gears for reverse and one super slow gear for forward.

jdmadam

iTrader: (2)

this thread was started in 2006 The swap was unheard of back then.


you should probably go back to the drawing board

siregcivic

nobody reads honda tuning lol there is a company that has been making the f20/f22c to k trans adapter plate since 2009 lmfao read up its kinda pricey but wtf isnt nowdays with k crap 1400 for a k20a2 and 1200 for 6 speed trans without lsd lmfao now factor in mounts kpro ecu and a nice header... or pay 2k for an h22 swap 500 on a 75shot direct port lol bye bye k lol anyways

here is the website

www.inlinepro.com


anyway not off topic too much im sorry, but what does a basic stock k20 run in an eg? like a low 13 or high 12 or something like that and i mean no kpro or header or anything just something stock like my friends h22 eg that runs 13.2's on motor and street tires lmfao and hes got 2300 in his swap

paton5g

It has been done.

For what $$$ who knows. There was a company that made mounts, not sure for what transmission, or if they still make them. Not many Honda guys out there willing to spend the coin for little more than bragging rights. Cha know?!

ef9_lover

iTrader: (1)

f20C is possible but its gonna run you alot alot of money. im going to iraq for 2 year saving every every penny i got to do it. yes alot people say im stupid waiste of money. but i know of only 2-4 people that actually done the swap. and no im not talking fwd f20c a true RWD f20c.... and one couldnt finish the swap and sold everything....

i tuaght of doing f20c fwd at once but when i looked at the price JUST for the kit. almost 4k that not including motor/tranny/fuel setup/rad set up/wiring/etc. for that just go k.


only swap you can do to stay different with honda now a days is a j series and if u dnt got j series second most different is a f2b or h2b. ive been to soo many meets and show where people didnt even know what h2b or f2b was. and at those same shows there were at least 10-30 k series.

unless u got mad money or mad skills with welder. plan on joining a bandwagon. EVERYTHING been done bro.

ef9_lover

iTrader: (1)

http://www.inlinepro.com/s1/p-74-f2k-kit.aspx

$3800 its on sale lol no no no ima go k before i buy that kit

cgoldman11

why would an f20 swap be outta the question? of course it's going to be expensive, but so will a swap for a k-in excess of ~10k in parts+who knows $ in labor...but you will make more power with it than a k....the head's flow amazing