Del Namco Solo

I don't need to direct you to ****. I love MY06 silver s2k. Put regular in I don't give a **** when your motor knocks your gonna wish you didn't, and when it doesn't last as long as others who use the right oil then oh well.

The book specifically states "use Mobil1 10w30." guess what ****tard, mobil1 is full synthetic, their "mobil" (without the 1) is conventional.

AND YES, If Honda so chooses they CAN and WILL run an oil analysis and if it does come up conventional oil or wrong weight you will lose your warranty. Happened to a friend of mine who was being a **** like many of you and put regular oil in his ****, started knocking, next think you know the dealer raped him with a repair bill and no warranty.

Kolyan2k

let me check my manual now

EDIT: as much as I want to agree with you, I did just check the manual and it doesn't say that you MUST use synthetic oil, it says to use Honda 10w30 motor oil, and you MAY use synthetic and other brands. But I just checked my service record for the car and Honda dealer only put synthetic Mobil 1 or Honda syn. blend oil in.

EDIT: and if you go to online honda parts ONLY synthetic blend oil comes up for S2000.

B serious

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Are you sure it was a book that said that? Sounds made up. You don't seem like the reading type anyway.

HondaKyle

Just checked my owners manual and a scan of a manual from 2006 and they don't say anything about 10w30. I'll keep using regular in my S2000, because I've been told its better for turbo cars.

Kolyan2k

you have been told wrong......I've had 2 Turbo cars and 1 high performance high rev car, both manuals and owners recommend and use synthetic only.

and on a side note are you people aware that Audi, BMW, MB, Porsche, and many other cars highly recommend to use synthetic oil? and what looks to be that Honda dealers use and recommend synthetic too.....

/\ is all that just flying in and out from you head?

not to mention that high rev NA m3 engine had its own synthetic oil made just for that high performance engine. if you tell some one that you used regular oil in your high performance m3, you just gonna be laughed at.

The reason why S2k manual said to use Honda 10w30 oil (which i still can only find in synthetic blend by the way) is probably because when s2k came out in 99, full synthetic oil was not popular back then. I started using syn. oil somewhere around 2003...

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Yep. It got popular to use synthetic when YOU started to use it. YOUR approval is what Honda was waiting for in 99. Back then, nobody had heard of synthetic. Honda knew synthetic needed to be in S2000s because the F20 was the FIRST high rev N/A engine built by Honda. But since synthetic wasn't YOUR cup of tea yet, they decided to hold off on recommending it. Then when you decided synthetic was awesome, they forgot all about putting the recommendation in the owners manual....which they ammend yearly.

Engines also care what is popular now a days. If synthetic isn't popular for you yet, the engine will happily run on whatever YOU think is popular. Grape jelly was and still is popular. You should see how enviously my engine looks at my sandwiches.

Since you're the only one who influences Honda's decisions, you should tell them synthetic oil has heen invented and they should require it in their one and only high rev N/A engine.

Did you know that Honda recommended using 87 octane for the D16Y8 instead of premium because back in 96, some random guy thought 93 wasnt as rad as 87? Cuz thats the only thing that could make sense.

Kolyan2k

That was just my theory, the rest are FACTS. Just because Honda manual does not say that you MUST use syn oil, doesn't mean that you shouldn't when 70% of cars on the road today MUST use synthetic per manual

meanwhile i am trying to find out (for myself) what oil was required in 1990s BMWs.......

EDIT: and there goes my theory which is more of a fact now......1990s (up to 98-99) BMWs DID NOT require use of synthetic oil. Synthetic oil became required per BMW from 2000 and up. when S2000 was produced most cars DID NOT use syn. oil and since S2000 never really changed, they never bothered to change the manual. And why would you.....first recommend ALL buyers to use regular oil and then tell them you MUST switch to syn. ? < you can get sued for that. Instead they just advise all dealers to use Honda 10w30 synthetic blend (which is RECOMMENDED per Honda dealer)

Its all clear as water.....I can understand when you use regular oil in your 89 Honda Accord and dont really care about it for 10k miles, but you have to be pretty stupid to use that in S2000 for longer then 5-6k miles when syn oil provides better protection, has longer intervals, and is cheaper....< have to be real stupid not to use it.

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sextav6

Who gives a ****? Use what you want. Obviously everyone already had their minds made up 2 pages ago

dagle

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I'm calling bullshit on this. They're going to run an oil analysis after the oil has been completely contaminated with bearing materials? Proof or it didn't happen pretty much. Just like how I could say 100% of my friends who ran conventional oil spun bearings within 5 minutes of the oil change.

Honda wouldn't destroy their reputation over that if it was indeed under warranty and the only reason the warranty was void was because of the conventional motor oil used. If this friend ran the wrong weight FAR out of the recommended weights, then the weight was the factor, not the fact that it was conventional.

ray559527

wow, this thing got really confusing. everytime i read someones post i started to believe what he said based on what they seemed to know. then someone comes in and disproves it or adds another good point.

im new to cars and i plan on doing my own oil change for a couple of reasons because i dont want a mechanic i dont trust dealing with my car since i just bought it.

I have a 95 honda del sol si and ever since i have bought it i love that thing to death and drive pretty harsh.

I need to know what is the best oil for my car. Brand name and oil type. Like i said im new to cars and know almost next to nothing. thats why im doing research cause i care for my car.

please recommend something for me and let me know what ur basing this on.

i dont mind paying extra few dollars as long as it isnt a hugee difference especially if it can last longer and have less frequent oil changes, just as long as its better for my car and there is a big enough advantage

Kolyan2k

I found that dealership syn. oil change is actually cheap. Only $65 bucks with oil and filter of course....I think they use Mobil1

I would stick with Mobil1 or Castrol since its available everywhere. There are other good oils like Amsoil and Redline, but i think you can buy that only online. Can use 5w30 for colder temp and 10w30 for warmer (or 5w30 all year round). Buy filter at dealer

Use Mobil1 75w90 in rear differential and Honda MTF in transmision, buy washers at dealer.

sextav6

You think $65 for an oil change is cheap? You can get a gallon of Mobil1 for $25 or less, and a filter for like $5-10 but whatever, not the point. He has a Del Slo, so doesn't need to worry about diff fluid.

To address the question, I agree that Mobil1 or something similar is perfectly fine, and as you noted, widely available. Correct me if I am wrong, but on higher mileage motors it is not recommended to switch directly to Amsoil until a flush is done?

dagle

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doesn't matter IMO, but I'm 99% sure someone's gonna come up with a smartass remark. Their idea is that the detergent/ingredient package differences will make the rings not seal, blow the seals/gaskets in your motor, or whatever, but in reality if your engine's being held together by crud or that sensitive to the differences in oil, you had bigger problems to begin with. Now I wouldn't recommend changing oil brands every oil change, but if you were switching over once, or did one oil change with another oil, it's not a big deal. Try to stick with one brand/weight, but it really doesn't matter as much as people think it does.

I'm starting with Amsoil next week since break-in is done. The VR-2 formula looks promising since they put the zinc back in.

Kolyan2k

8.20 per qt in local stores. Oil filter is about 10 bucks. Oil change it self is about $20 bucks....thats what my wife pays for Civic.

dagle

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Where do you live?

OEM Honda filters is 10$ maybe.
Mobil1 and Amsoil are both on sale weekly at the auto parts store or walmart for 4.99/qt. If you can't find a sale, you aren't looking hard enough. The prices I stated are in San Francisco, CA too, which is arguably one of the most expensive places to buy things from lol

RED_90TEG

just do it and c what happens.. good luck

Kolyan2k

boston. i checked the price online in local autozone. i know walmart has 1 Gal Mobil1, but I haven't seen them recently. checked again and another parts store has it was 28 bucks

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Op, theres no perfect answer on "the best oil to use". My final advice: If you're not tracking the car, either use a good brand of conventional oil and a good filter to do it yourself, or let the dealer/somewhere else reputable do your oil changes. Follow the dealer's/the manual's guidelines for oil change intervals.

Generally speaking, the dealer is a better idea than a random quick lube place. The dealer uses oem Honda filters and usually will do things like properly torque the filters (yeah, they need to be torqued on these cars) and use new crush washers.

Hundreds of thousands of drivers do this and still get 200+k miles out of their cars. You DO NOT need synthetic in your N/A S2000 for street driving....even with some "hard driving" thrown in there.

But its your car. If you're feelin rich like you got extra money to waste, synthetic is what's up. It not gonna hurt anything to use synthetic.

Kolyan2k

If you find one article that proves me wrong then i suppose regular is ok

http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&...nventional+oil

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I forgot. You also need ^ his approval. After all, he's the one that decides what manufacturers recommend in the cars they produce based on what he thinks is popular.

Kolyan2k

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Re3irth

At one of the Honda dealers on the island (I think there is only 2),
they charge $40 for a regular oil change and only $45 for Honda Synthetic blend
0W20 oil change. These are with coupons. The synthetic blend is only
$5 more.. Does that sound right to you guys?
And I assume with blend oil you can go longer than conventional?
And if they use 0W20 for the synthetic blend change I can probably ask
them to use 10W40 or whatever if they have it I would imagine.

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0W20 is hella thin. But...should be ok. 10W30 is what's recommended for S2000s.

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