Question About Power Door Locks
10-28-2007, 02:12 PM
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Question About Power Door Locks
I just got a 2003 S2000, and find it very strange that the only way to automatically open the passenger-side door (ie. without leaning across the car and physically unlocking it), is to remove the key from the ignition and press the unlock button. Two questions: Is this correct; and, what was the Honda technician smoking when he made this decision?
10-28-2007, 05:53 PM
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ok if you were designing it where would you put the button? i don't really think there is a place it would fit. unless you are 4'11 you should be able to reach over and unlock it
10-28-2007, 06:53 PM
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Uh...I'm sure there is room for a tiny little switch near the window/mirror controls or even the roof control.
Manually opening the door is not a matter of difficulty, it's just strange. Almost every modern car has the ability to lock/unlock all doors with a single switch.
Manually opening the door is not a matter of difficulty, it's just strange. Almost every modern car has the ability to lock/unlock all doors with a single switch.
10-28-2007, 10:39 PM
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Re: (preludeChaos)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preludeChaos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uh...I'm sure there is room for a tiny little switch near the window/mirror controls or even the roof control.
Manually opening the door is not a matter of difficulty, it's just strange. Almost every modern car has the ability to lock/unlock all doors with a single switch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Manually opening the door is not a matter of difficulty, it's just strange. Almost every modern car has the ability to lock/unlock all doors with a single switch.</TD></TR></TABLE>
10-29-2007, 04:19 AM
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Re: Question About Power Door Locks (preludeChaos)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preludeChaos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just got a 2003 S2000, and find it very strange that the only way to automatically open the passenger-side door (ie. without leaning across the car and physically unlocking it), is to remove the key from the ignition and press the unlock button. Two questions: Is this correct; and, what was the Honda technician smoking when he made this decision?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Whoah whoah whoah whoah. Hold on now. What do you mean unlock button? We have an unlock button?
The only way I know how to open the passenger side is to click the key fob twice, or reach over and manually unlock it? Am I missing something?
Whoah whoah whoah whoah. Hold on now. What do you mean unlock button? We have an unlock button?
The only way I know how to open the passenger side is to click the key fob twice, or reach over and manually unlock it? Am I missing something?
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10-29-2007, 08:13 AM
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Re: Question About Power Door Locks (LAS2K)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LAS2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes its normal. No this isn't a lexus.
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NUFF SAID
you actually have passengers in your car?
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NUFF SAID
you actually have passengers in your car?
10-29-2007, 08:46 AM
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Re: Question About Power Door Locks (S@nt0s)
"NUFF SAID"? Haha...that first reply was the most useless comment in this thread (no offense to the poster). The idea that a lock/unlock switch is somehow a luxery feature that belongs in a Lexus and not in a $32,000 Honda is ridiculous.
10-29-2007, 08:52 AM
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Re: Question About Power Door Locks (preludeChaos)
you are honestly the first person i have heard of to comment on this..
yes we all know how it works and you have ot lean over or pull the key out but it doesnt bother anyone else ....
Honda just put the seat in the right side for looks i say
yes we all know how it works and you have ot lean over or pull the key out but it doesnt bother anyone else ....
Honda just put the seat in the right side for looks i say
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Re: Question About Power Door Locks (S@nt0s)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LAS2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes its normal. No this isn't a lexus.
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Disagree with this^^. i agree that it was bad design. if this car was "so sports car, u shouldnt need a switch" for the pass side, then it wouldnt have a ****** cup holder either! honda but some excess **** int he car (everything from cupholder to AC), but couldnt manage a small switch to unlock the door? jesus. this come standard in everything from kias to for focuses
it just seems like the ball got dropped there. it would be cake for honda to design, add no extra weight, and could be hidden well. they found a place to putt tweeters on ap2's which are much bigger than a switch.
and there is a way to rig it to something. some guy has a write up on how to do it to the roof switch. i forget the guys site, but he has all kinds of s2k tricks. the roof switch does the door only as long as the ebrake i down, but if your doin the roof with the ebrake up, then it will unlock/lock ur door as well.
/thread. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Disagree with this^^. i agree that it was bad design. if this car was "so sports car, u shouldnt need a switch" for the pass side, then it wouldnt have a ****** cup holder either! honda but some excess **** int he car (everything from cupholder to AC), but couldnt manage a small switch to unlock the door? jesus. this come standard in everything from kias to for focuses
it just seems like the ball got dropped there. it would be cake for honda to design, add no extra weight, and could be hidden well. they found a place to putt tweeters on ap2's which are much bigger than a switch.
and there is a way to rig it to something. some guy has a write up on how to do it to the roof switch. i forget the guys site, but he has all kinds of s2k tricks. the roof switch does the door only as long as the ebrake i down, but if your doin the roof with the ebrake up, then it will unlock/lock ur door as well.
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10-29-2007, 09:13 AM
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Re: (marks_lude)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marks_lude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">found it:
http://www.modifry.com/freebies/index.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks, so you mean another human being has noticed this missing feature in the S2000? Weird...someone told me I was the only person to ever comment on this! LOL
http://www.modifry.com/freebies/index.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks, so you mean another human being has noticed this missing feature in the S2000? Weird...someone told me I was the only person to ever comment on this! LOL
10-29-2007, 09:30 AM
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Re: Question About Power Door Locks (preludeChaos)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preludeChaos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"NUFF SAID"? Haha...that first reply was the most useless comment in this thread (no offense to the poster). The idea that a lock/unlock switch is somehow a luxery feature that belongs in a Lexus and not in a $32,000 Honda is ridiculous. </TD></TR></TABLE>
All I was saying is that does it really matter that you might lean over 3 feet to unlock? Is it that big of an inconvenience? If ever I have passengers, I would get the bright idea to hit unlock twice BEFORE I got into the car.
All I was saying is that does it really matter that you might lean over 3 feet to unlock? Is it that big of an inconvenience? If ever I have passengers, I would get the bright idea to hit unlock twice BEFORE I got into the car.
10-29-2007, 09:43 AM
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Re: Question About Power Door Locks (LAS2K)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LAS2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All I was saying is that does it really matter that you might lean over 3 feet to unlock? Is it that big of an inconvenience? If ever I have passengers, I would get the bright idea to hit unlock twice BEFORE I got into the car. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I understand your point, however I still think it's really weird. I never expected to have to justify the existence of an unlock switch in a car. It's just a normal part of any modern car.
You don't always know that you will have passengers when you initially get into your car. Again, it isn't a matter of inconvenience...it just doesn't make any sense. There's absolutely no logical reason for Honda leaving it out. I would seriously love to have a conversation with the person who made the decision...just to understand the thinking behind it. Was it simply overlooked? Were they trying to save a few dollars here, a few dollars there to keep the price down?
I understand your point, however I still think it's really weird. I never expected to have to justify the existence of an unlock switch in a car. It's just a normal part of any modern car.
You don't always know that you will have passengers when you initially get into your car. Again, it isn't a matter of inconvenience...it just doesn't make any sense. There's absolutely no logical reason for Honda leaving it out. I would seriously love to have a conversation with the person who made the decision...just to understand the thinking behind it. Was it simply overlooked? Were they trying to save a few dollars here, a few dollars there to keep the price down?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by preludeChaos »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thanks, so you mean another human being has noticed this missing feature in the S2000? Weird...someone told me I was the only person to ever comment on this! LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>
again like i said you are the first i have EVER HEARD ABOUT COMMENTING ON THIS!
but who cares i dont.....
Thanks, so you mean another human being has noticed this missing feature in the S2000? Weird...someone told me I was the only person to ever comment on this! LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>
again like i said you are the first i have EVER HEARD ABOUT COMMENTING ON THIS!
but who cares i dont.....
10-29-2007, 07:26 PM
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Re: Question About Power Door Locks (preludeChaos)
i have commented about this on s2ki and it bothers me too, and many other ppl. its annoying, and yes, i expect more.
yes, you get used to it. but there ARE solutions.
first, you can do what modifry does with this roof switch or any other switch.
you can also rewire the keyless entry module under the dash. and splice the passenger door lock trigger to the driver door lock trigger and the passenger door will unlock EVERYTIME you unlock the driver door. both doors with lock as usual with the remote.
hope that was helpful.
edit: ha, i just noticed bob @ modifry posted my original idea on his website. im pretty sure he learned it from me, an 02 owner in 06.
Modified by Tyson at 8:37 PM 10/29/2007
yes, you get used to it. but there ARE solutions.
first, you can do what modifry does with this roof switch or any other switch.
you can also rewire the keyless entry module under the dash. and splice the passenger door lock trigger to the driver door lock trigger and the passenger door will unlock EVERYTIME you unlock the driver door. both doors with lock as usual with the remote.
hope that was helpful.
edit: ha, i just noticed bob @ modifry posted my original idea on his website. im pretty sure he learned it from me, an 02 owner in 06.
Modified by Tyson at 8:37 PM 10/29/2007
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by S@nt0s »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
again like i said you are the first i have EVER HEARD ABOUT COMMENTING ON THIS!
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this is the first ive seen it here, but theres tons of threads on s2ki about it. i dont know why theres more there the here, but there is.
and to those saying "is it a big deal to lean over 3 ft?" ... well no, not once... but then u consider the fact that my girlfriend rarely drives, cuz her car is more boring, so im always pickin her up from class, or her apt, etc... and i usually havent thought about unlocking both when i got in 20 min earlier.
so its pretty much a daily thing for me to have to lean over....
again like i said you are the first i have EVER HEARD ABOUT COMMENTING ON THIS!
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this is the first ive seen it here, but theres tons of threads on s2ki about it. i dont know why theres more there the here, but there is.
and to those saying "is it a big deal to lean over 3 ft?" ... well no, not once... but then u consider the fact that my girlfriend rarely drives, cuz her car is more boring, so im always pickin her up from class, or her apt, etc... and i usually havent thought about unlocking both when i got in 20 min earlier.
so its pretty much a daily thing for me to have to lean over....
10-30-2007, 04:28 AM
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Re: Question About Power Door Locks (preludeChaos)
I find this annoying too. It's not as though it's really a weight savings measure - there's obviously already the electric bits there to unlock and lock the passenger side door remotely (else the remote wouldn't work).
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This was one of the first things I noticed when I first got my S. But I dont see the big deal and why the *** it metters. You either hit the key fob twice or lean over. Or are you trying to be that creepy dude that wants to lock someone in the car with him.
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Re: (Black S2K)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black S2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This was one of the first things I noticed when I first got my S. But I dont see the big deal and why the *** it metters. You either hit the key fob twice or lean over. Or are you trying to be that creepy dude that wants to lock someone in the car with him. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Damn, this guy figured it all out! Anyone who would want a lock/unlock switch in their car must be a sex criminal. What a useful post.
Damn, this guy figured it all out! Anyone who would want a lock/unlock switch in their car must be a sex criminal. What a useful post.
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tired of people justifying and standing behind every decision honda ever made designing the s2000.. if it lacks something we automatically get the "its a pure sports car" answer.
As said earlier I dont believe that... this is something that could have been changed w/o any weight savings.. and any car can do this. Right now my opinion on this is that I just wasted 5 mins reading and responding to this though lol.
As said earlier I dont believe that... this is something that could have been changed w/o any weight savings.. and any car can do this. Right now my opinion on this is that I just wasted 5 mins reading and responding to this though lol.
11-06-2007, 05:24 PM
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Re: Question About Power Door Locks (preludeChaos)
oh yeah, heres another simpler solution. bypass the remote lockout on the keyless module. then you can just press the remote to unlock the doors while its running.
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/ind...14036
i had thought of this too, but never got around to it. but i wont take credit, that post is way before i owned my S, even tho i didnt see it until now.
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/ind...14036
i had thought of this too, but never got around to it. but i wont take credit, that post is way before i owned my S, even tho i didnt see it until now.
11-06-2007, 07:37 PM
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I really can't believe that is being discussed. The car is 69 inches wide for christ sake. stop being so lazy and petty. it isn't necessary thats why there isn't one.