bigmacnfries

so much sand, so many vaginas

JUSTINTHECOASTI

Talking out of the *** is contagious...****'s spreading everywhere..lol

andre@raw

Great Job Carlitos and his shop.

Boots

back on subject....we were trying to get a respnse to how the F20/22 is an outdated motor...i really want to hear what this kid has to say

integboi90

I wonder how f motors are out dated. By all means, these motors are way better than b series. Hah

Arubiccube

Lol

Red CiViC Hatch

k series i-vtec 280 hp relatively stock? yaa duhhhh.... compared to a k series engine the f series is outdated. The K series is modeled after the F series

oh yeah I hav a 2002 rsx with a jdm k20a swap and a 2005 s2k and a lifted 99 cherokee sport and a 09 r6 motorcycle and a 09 honda motard and a 09 crf50

boomerro

i loled.

Sean Juan

Neat swap. Too bad the car looks horrible. I'd rather swap a 2JZ in mine.

Boots

im still waiting on your evidence that supports what you said about the F20/22C being outdated...you have provided none...and who gives a **** what you drive, that means nothing...provide proof to support your statement or keep your mouth shut, because youre making yourself look like an idiot

Red CiViC Hatch

I already said that i believe the k series is more advanced than the f series. Stock for stock id gladly take the f-series which makes more power stock but to beat up and get h/p gains and better gas mileage id take the k series. Mod for mod k-series holds it down with better gains. i <3 my jdm k20a just as much as the deucey.

As for me stating what I drive.... refer to page two when u thought i still drove a civic.

http://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/7933...e-info-page-9/

Red CiViC Hatch

the thread i posted is basically what Im talking about theyre having the same dispute, but everyone has their e-pinions i just happen to be on the k side of things

p.s. Im not a kid... check our registration dates, i might be older than you.... kid.

JUSTINTHECOASTI

If by outdated you mean the engine is no longer used in new honda vehicles then ok, but if you mean outdated as in outdated technology I feel youre wrong. What/which K-series engine broke F20c/F22c records? This is like comparing Kobe and Lebrons stats. The k-series is what it is because of which engine? Dont get me wrong, the k-series is a great engine. Both engines constantly battle it out for which is the best on the street and on the track. For an "outdated" engine, there shouldnt be a comparison

HondaKyle

Look at the technology and performance base around the cars that come with the F and the K. The F is for RWD and the K is for FWD. Whats better front real drive or real wheel drive?




PS. the answer is rear wheel drive.

Red CiViC Hatch

Engines not drivetrain.

Soooo you have the option of getting the iphone 3 or the iphone four.... which do u buy?

The f is a good motor but the k is technically more advanced.... why would they make an i-vtec kit for our s2k motors? A stock ep3 k20a3 has a similar torque curve as the f series and thats the base motor for the k series lineup.

HondaKyle

People do a lot of dumb things to cars. You can talk numbers all day but at the end of the day they are only numbers. The only numbers you should care about are times.

JUSTINTHECOASTI

I'd get a driod lol I hate iphones
Just because it has more technology doesnt make it a better motor. Performance wise it's still, if not below, the level of performance a F20c/F22c
I-vtec on our motor was only a project by dcraft not by Honda...stock for stock, horsepower per liter performance wise which has better technology?

Boots

so what youre telling me is you have no proof, all you have is an opinion...well, youre opinion is wrong, and i really dont give a **** what you drive...thank you for proving my theory on you being another person on honda-tech who doesnt know what theyre talking about

Red CiViC Hatch

And you still fail to acknowledge that the f motor has no ivtec and as much torque as a b series LS, but you wont accept the advancement in technology. Your a pure s2000 enthusiast as to where i am a true automotive enthusisast.

As for the comment above ^^^ jeep played with their numbers too and went from a 4.0 inline 6 making 200 getting 14mpg to a v6 3.8 makin 290 getting 22mpg using something similar to ivtec in a smaller motor.

Technology is a wonderful thing but i wish the s2000 had more kick in the *** stock cuz its **** slow off the line.

JUSTINTHECOASTI

So low torque makes it the F20c/F22c outdated racing technology? You are out of your mind

Red CiViC Hatch

O yah and the european civic type r with a k series produces 240 hp and i think the japanese mugen civic r makes 260 on a k series. Those are offerd from the dealer as is.

Boots

ok, first, i know an F series doesnt have i-vtec you moron...second, a b18b puts down about 110ft-lbs of torque, an F series puts down about 150ft-lbs of torque, so youre just flat out wrong...third, i have built many cars and ive been an automotive technician for the past 9 years of my life..im a PERFORMANCE enthusiast...so your statement of the F being an outdated motor is just bullshit...you obviously have no idea what the hell you are talking about...and finally, the s2000 was never meant to be fast off the line, its not a fukcing drag car, its a track car...show me one car that came with the K series stock that can beat an S2000 around the track....(hint, there isnt one)

HondaKyle

so because the K20 has 20 more horse the F20/22 are out dated and not as good? neglecting the fact a Civic was not made to be a race car and its FWD also not forgetting Honda doesnt put the k20 in Civic Sis anymore. So is the K20 outdated now?

Red CiViC Hatch

No i meant as in technology... still a competitor along with the people racing b series and h series.... the only reason i stated thay is because everyone thinks the s2k motor is the next best thing compared to wonder bread...

And it was

Almost a decade ago.

Boots

and 10 years ago it was 15 years ahead of its time, so...