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Old 11-02-2008, 06:03 AM
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Started yesterday...

Basically it goes into all gears fine it catches but when i push the gas all the way down it will rev doesnt matter what gear im in. No check engine lights or anything. Car is at 62k miles haven't done a transmission flush or anything yet. Was waiting till 2 more weeks.

This means clutch is slipping right?
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I had a 01 silverstone and the clutch went out on mine around 70 k miles. When you drove around regular clutch was fine, but after you dropped the hammer the clutch would slip. The revs would go up until the clutch finally grabbed then come back down. Eventually it will get worse and worse to were you have to build speed to get over steep roads.

btw changing out the clutch is kind of a pain.

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Old 11-02-2008, 09:13 AM
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shucks! haha time to find a how to...im def not paying a million dollars to switch it out.
Old 11-02-2008, 09:39 AM
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should i go with the oem clutch...car is stock and always will be.
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I put stock clutch and pressure plate back in mine when I had it. Just because it was the cheapest thing I could find at the time.
Old 11-02-2008, 10:47 AM
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cool alright..did u do it urself?
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have you driven it aggressively when shifting? My guess it that your clutch is going because the torque of your motor when picking up speed will cause it to slip if its bad, though hondas aren't known for their torque lol.
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nope just kinda started to happend on the interstate last night.
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My father and I changed out the clutch in the garage. It was not fun at all. Something I wouldn't like to repeat .
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damn, would u rate it harder then pulling a bseries engine and putting new one in...


wonder what the labor cost is cause this is my dd and i cant afford to have it out for a week

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Pulling a d or b series engine is easy. I'm not trying to scare you or anything. I'm sure others will say it will be easy. I didn't find it that easy. Maybe you should find a free helms s2000 manual, and read over the steps for pulling the transmission to see if you fill confident with doing it yourself.
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yeah no worries, also how long before yours went out? few days or weeks? and what about flywheel did u leave it as is?
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if you have a relatively stock car engine wise and plan to leave it like that for some time down the road i would just throw in a stock clutch again. Theres no need to spend extra money where it isn't really necessary. Stock clutch and PP is sufficient enough.
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k yeah i dont plan doing any fi or nothing crazy i like have a reliable car 99% of the time

time to order a clutch....also some recommend resurface the flywheel... yay or nay
Old 11-02-2008, 08:17 PM
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It is a big pain in the ***...i have had to change mine twice. my first one went out at about the same mileage at yours. It took my 5-6 hours last time, and that was on a lift with the experience of already doing it. the first time took much longer.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mcgee* &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah no worries, also how long before yours went out? few days or weeks? and what about flywheel did u leave it as is?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mcgee* &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">k yeah i dont plan doing any fi or nothing crazy i like have a reliable car 99% of the time

time to order a clutch....also some recommend resurface the flywheel... yay or nay</TD></TR></TABLE>

i wouldnt resurface mine, honda doesn't recomend it. I couldn't find a shop willing to do mine. If you leave it, it will lead to premature failure also, so oyur only option is to replace it. I personally have the fidanza flywheel with the replaceable surface on it and have no complaints. they run about 300 though, and the clutch about the same if you plan to stay with a stock setup (there is an exedy kit on ebay i think for that price.

I go through a clutch about every 20k in the s2k, i do some very spirited driving. However my jetta has the original clutch at 180k
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I drove on my clutch for probably 2 or 3 months.. lol It really sucks not being able to push the car to its limit.

Funny story about the clutch slipping. My friends invited me to a lake to do some camping. Well the whole drive over there is pretty steep interstate hills. I would have to build speed just to get over these hills and then sometimes the clutch would still slip. I finally make it to the cabin. The cabin is on a hill and the driveway has a crazy grade on it. Took me three tries to make it up on the damn thing.

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Clutch Replacement:
(I did NOT write this, grabbed it from another website.)

Ill start under the hood by doing these in this order:
Tools: 12mm,10mm,14mm combo wrenches, 10mm,12mm,14mm sockets
14mm flex socket, 24"12" extensions, ratchet wrenches, a long handle makes it real easy to
loosen the tensioner. +/ - screwdrivers, torque wrenches, clutch alignment tool. Flashlight.

1 Remove air box, 10mm heads / Battery terminals 10mm stubby wrench
2 Accessory belt, 14mm head on a breaker bar for the tensioner
3 Heat shield on manifold, 12mm heads (I say heads because the threads are stated in manual)
4 Battery heat shield, 10mm Last bolt just loosens
5 Alternator top bolt out, loosen lower, 14mm
6 A/C pump bolts loosen 2x 14mm on top, remove forward most top bolt, disconnect wire from under car later
7 Disconnect two sensor plugs on head by the firewall
8 Disconnect vacuum hose (the one shown in manual at rear of head ((suction valve))
9 Mark steering joint, and remove 10mm bolt at front (other bolt loosened later)Make sure steering wheel is locked straight.
10 Swing alternator out a bit to get to upper starter bolt, 14mm remove but leave bolt resting on alternator,
YOU WILL WANT A 14mm FLEX SOCKET . . . + about 24" of extension, I recommend using duct tape so you wont drop the socket amid all the hoses and wires. You get at this bolt from an angle, and directly between the throttle body and alternator.
11 Disconnect power steering connectors, one big and one small (electrical)
12 Loosen exhaust manifold bolts at head 12mm (Keep Snug)
13 Remove 14mm bolt at rear of intake manifold, wiring harness support bar
14 Raise car, I recommend at least 24" clearance at body jack points. I managed to get here in 18 min.

When under car you will want these
10mm combo wrench, I use a gearwrench
12mm,14mm,17mm combo wrenches
12mm deep,12mm,14mm, 17mm socket, 6mm hex socket (short as possible)
24" and 12" extensions you'll need at least 36" for the top tranny bolts
Small crook needle nose pliers for removing plastic snap in wire holders
Ratchets, 3/8" and 1/2" drive with 1/2 to 3/8 adapter
Impact wrench with 17mm, 19mm deep sockets or short extension.

1 Remove splash shield
2 Remove front engine bump stop (I just leave mine off now)
3 Loosen rear steering joint bolt and slide joint back to disconnect, 10mm
4 Disconnect A/C wire and remove remaining bolts from pump (3)
5 Remove cable ground wire to engine block
6 Remove 14mm bolt on lower wiring harness support bar
7 Remove clutch slave cyl. 12mm open end wrench
8 Disconnect 02 sensor connectors, and tranny wiring harness
9 Remove cat. conv. use the deep 12mm socket and box end 12 wrench for the front two, 14mm combo for the rear
10 Loosen 3 lower driveshaft bolts(on each end), 6mm hex, if you cant get the wrench in there, remember the
shaft slides on cv joints. Parking brake should be on.
11 Remove 14mm bolts on exhaust manifold support, remove manifold. When your're up top again to remove
the manifold nuts, release the parking brake, and remove the shifter ****/lever. 10mm heads
12 Remove 19mm subframe bolts (The middle ones that come out)
13 Turn driveshaft 180*
14 Remove bolts that connect shifter box to tranny tunnel, 10mm
15 Loosen lower tranny to engine bolts, 14mm/17mm
16 Put the brake back on, then loosen the other 3 driveshaft bolts (each end) Mark driveshaft if it is not yet, and remove.

Now its time to support the subframe, I just use a 24" 2x4 on a jack placed under the front beam and the oil pan.
when supported, back out the front subframe bolts 3" (19mm) and the rear subframe bolts 3" (17mm)
When the subframe comes down a bit you can see exactly how for to back out the bolts by looking at the gap in the
threads.

With the subframe lowered and supported by the bolts you can now get to the top tranny bolts. (17mm)
Support the tranny and remove the 3 tranny crossbeam bolts at rear, remember to pull out the release fork
so the tranny will come all the way off the engine.

For the clutch you will need 12 point sockets, 10mm for the pressure plate, and 17mm for the flywheel.
I'll undo the PP bolts just by hand in a crisscross pattern, they aren't that tight. For the flywheel bolts,
I'll zip out those with a low power impact wrench so I don't need a flywheel holder. If you have a Toda
flywheel, you can use a 14mm deep socket through those holes to hold the FW. If not you can use a big
screwdriver or prybar to hold the starter teeth on the FW. When putting the tranny back in, remember to
have to alignment pins in place, and that perfect alignment between tranny/engine is just as important
as a clutch alignment tool. It will slip right on

When putting the cat back in, it will be good to leave the exhaust man. loose, sometimes it's a tight fit with
aftermarket cat-back systems.

The plastic white ring around the inner shift boot comes out a special way, you will see little arrows that
point to where the barbs are. Take a small but long flat head screwdriver and insert just inside the ring
through the hole in the rubber boot while lifting on the boot at the same time.

I have found that the clutch change has a negligible effect on the front end alignment.

Remember this is my quick way of pulling my tranny, I may have left something out, so double check with
the manual before starting. So there you have it, and I'm going out in a few to do it again . . .

OH yeah, none of my clutch discs have exhibited any undue wear, just a bit of scorching - so you may be better off with an OEM disc and a heavy duty PP. Im working on the noise thing, with interesting results.
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hahaha well luckly i drive interstate with no hills to work so hopefully ill be good, it does sucks tho..i havent been in vtec in 2days...its a damn drug!


thanks white smoke! saw that on s2ki..only thing im worried about is getting it up 24in
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mcgee* &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
only thing im worried about is getting it up 24in</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's what she said

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HAHA! The starter is the best part.

and this is very important.

<U>remember to pull out the release fork
so the tranny will come all the way off the engine</U>
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got one of my buddies doing it for me for 200$ to save me the hassle, while im ordering my clutch i ordered a berks test pipe too had to make something good out of this bad situation
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Damn.... Good friend you have there. I wouldn't charge less than 4 or 5 hundred.. lol
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mcgee* &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">got one of my buddies doing it for me for 200$ to save me the hassle</TD></TR></TABLE>

Has he done a clutch job on an S2K before?


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