JDM_d15b_eg8

what up guys, well i am an avid civic tuner guy and i've always been, however a very good opportunity has been presented and i will most likely be getting a Prelude soon.

Its the 93-95 bodystyle and its an Si i'm pretty sure with the H23. the motor has a hole in it, yes you heard me right, a hole. it apparently spits coolant and crap. so what i was planning was buy it for 600 and get a H22 and throwin it in there. My buddy told me to get the 97' and up JDM H22 because they are better tuning wise, and had better oil flow or something. Well i want your guys suggestions, what do you think i should do? Is there something better that i can throw in there?

Also where can i get this lip kit:



Any suggestions are much appreciated, but please dont flame, after all its just the internet

md23vtec

Since your car is OBD 1 you want and OBD 1 h22. Go from there goodluck on the car

JDM_d15b_eg8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by md23vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since your car is OBD 1 you want and OBD 1 h22. Go from there goodluck on the car </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, my neighbhor who swapped my D15b in my civic mentioned that too me, he said it would be more expensive to find one of those too. Thanks

md23vtec

Other then a type S, h22 motors are pretty much gonna be the same price

MLBZ521

iTrader: (6)

First, Great deal on the lude... (Also, It's a '92 - '96 Bodystyle..)


Second, I'd get a OD1 JDM H22.. Not the '97 up.. OBD1 is Closed Deck, which is supposed to be better for performance..
An H22 is going to be the same whether or not it's OBD1 or 2, most likely.. Unless you get a Type S as md said.

It shouldn't be any more expensive either way.. Well, it'll be expensive to get OBD2 because you'd have to change and convert things to that, which would be an unnessary pain..

95greenlude

wwrs lip kit has been discontinued....or ww is out of business/whatever is happening......gotta find someone selling that kit.

JDM_d15b_eg8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95greenlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wwrs lip kit has been discontinued....or ww is out of business/whatever is happening......gotta find someone selling that kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

are you serious?! DAMM THAT IS GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what do you guys think of this, i'm sure your familiar with hmotorsonline:

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30015

or this one:

http://www.hmotorsonline.com/s...30026

all i really need is just the motor, and i can put it on the tranny which isn't geared as well as the VTEC 22 tranny but whatever that doesn't bug me, but if i'm gonna be paying 1200 i might as well go and pay 700ish more and get a full tranny and ECU and have the full thing and not have to worry about the tranny going on me and stuff, + knowing you did it right is always good peace of mind

md23vtec

if you have a tranny then just get the longblock and save 700 bucks the H23 tranny will work the H22

Wsteun

Correct me if I'm wrong, the h23 tranny and h22 tranny have different shifting points. If you swap in an h22 w/o the tranny, you can't stay in vtec after shifting.

chitownrida

i think wings west is back...

Hawkze_2.3

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chitownrida &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think wings west is back...

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I think you're right actually....I believe they were aquired by VIS.

I don't have time to research right now, but maybe someone can check into it.

JDM_d15b_eg8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wsteun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Correct me if I'm wrong, the h23 tranny and h22 tranny have different shifting points. If you swap in an h22 w/o the tranny, you can't stay in vtec after shifting.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'm pretty sure youre right, thats why my neighbhor was telling me i had to get the tranny as well as the motor. oh and as far as wings west is concerned, my uncle works for a company that owns them and i'm pretty sure they were going out of buisness but they were indeed bought by someone. i didn't know it was wings west that made that lip kit, its really tight

JDM_d15b_eg8

http://www.wingswest.com/produ...d=501


Looks legit to me

md23vtec

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Wsteun &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Correct me if I'm wrong, the h23 tranny and h22 tranny have different shifting points. If you swap in an h22 w/o the tranny, you can't stay in vtec after shifting.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I have an h23 tranny in car with an h22 stock ecu and an v-afc I dont have any problems falling out of vtec between shifts. Yes the H22 has shorter gears the the H23.

JDM_d15b_eg8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by md23vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I have an h23 tranny in car with an h22 stock ecu and an v-afc I dont have any problems falling out of vtec between shifts. Yes the H22 has shorter gears the the H23.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ahhh, well then if thats the case you'll be able to stay in vtec longer, which i like

connvict

Why don't you just buy my car and be done with it all?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1616962

JDM_d15b_eg8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by connvict &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why don't you just buy my car and be done with it all?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1616962</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the offer, but i couldn't afford that, that car is sick btw. the whole reason i'm doing this is so that i can finally get away from my cursed civic 4 door which never ceases to disappoint me, and finally get something that i'm happy with, without an a$$ load of work (and money) and is freakin stick shift, i cant tell you how sick i am of my automatic.

also its a great opportunity, my friend had it sitting in his yard forever and he doesn't want to hassle with it anymore, i though it was an automatic, otherwise i would have had it by now.

95greenlude

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_d15b_eg8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.wingswest.com/produ...d=501


Looks legit to me </TD></TR></TABLE>

click on 'shop wings west'
http://www.wingswest.com/shop_main.asp

twistedbydezign

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by connvict &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why don't you just buy my car and be done with it all?

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1616962</TD></TR></TABLE>

so why the hell did you resleeve and everything only to run 10:1 pistons?!?!?! seems very expensive just to stay at stock specs...

95greenlude

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so why the hell did you resleeve and everything only to run 10:1 pistons?!?!?! seems very expensive just to stay at stock specs...</TD></TR></TABLE>

high compression+turbo=minimal lag

twistedbydezign

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high compression+turbo=minimal lag</TD></TR></TABLE>

my bad, i didnt see the "built for turbo" title....and it didnt say anything anywhere else about boosting...that i saw...

Wsteun

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by md23vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I have an h23 tranny in car with an h22 stock ecu and an v-afc I dont have any problems falling out of vtec between shifts. Yes the H22 has shorter gears the the H23.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I don't know exactly what this guy plans to do with his car. You have your vtec adjusted hence you have no problem staying in it, but for a stock car or a car w/ no v-afc, you will fall out of vtec w/ the h23 tranny.

AndyD

iTrader: (1)

Here's what I would do in your situation. I would pull the H23, part it out, including the tranny. Then I would buy a full swap from Hmotorsonline and opt for the $300 LSD tranny. You can part out the other parts you don't use too.

I know money is probably an issue, but the LSD is worth it!!! I wish I had the option of getting an OEM LSD tranny. I got a great deal on my swap though. It was local too.

VTecLude1994

iTrader: (1)

ViS Racing Sports recently bought Wings West and C-West.

JDM_d15b_eg8

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTecLude1994 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ViS Racing Sports recently bought Wings West and C-West.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good i hope they continue to make the kit

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AndyD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's what I would do in your situation. I would pull the H23, part it out, including the tranny. Then I would buy a full swap from Hmotorsonline and opt for the $300 LSD tranny. You can part out the other parts you don't use too.

I know money is probably an issue, but the LSD is worth it!!! I wish I had the option of getting an OEM LSD tranny. I got a great deal on my swap though. It was local too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

whenever i bought the motor and tranny for my civic , for 150 more i could have got a factory LSD and i almost did it but i was just short on cash, i didn't even think of parting out the H23, thats a good idea