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Old 12-14-2013, 07:46 PM
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Has anyone here ever heard of a H22A with a 6-speed transmission swap? I have a 91 Integra with a H22A swap and I recently came across a 6-speed LSD K-series transmission and was wondering if there was a kit made to put the two together. Ive been searching the internet but haven't come across any kits or write-ups like that other than for H2B. A 6th gear would definitely be nice for my H!
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it won't work. k series and the f20c/22c in the s2k spin the opposite direction of b/h series.
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I too evny the 6th gear.... Not much can be done about it. Then again if moneys no option anything is possible. Somehow figure out a way to reverse the gearing???

If I had the money id H2B my prelude with a fully bullet proof built type-r trans with a twin disc clutch. That will increase the cars potential more then any extra gear will.

If you really want a taller gear for highway drop a accord F23 5th gear into you H trans.
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I'd imagine I can just have the motor face the opposite direction to fix that issue. I'm not really concerned with what direction the motor faces, and even if I preferred the exhaust at the front i've seen people do reverse head swaps but i'm not gonna go that far. It's a tight fit as it is, and the adapter plate sure wont help my fitment issues but i've seen H2B swaps in my integra so I should be able to make the K trans fit. I'm not afraid to fabricate anything myself, I was just wondering if such a thing has been done before. I'm not looking for taller gears as much as i'm looking to get a higher top speed. I don't know the top speed of the F23 trans but I doubt it's any faster than 140. If i'm not mistaken the 6-speed tops out at 160-170? I just don't think 5 gears does my H22 justice. A 6th gear would be proper.



BTW incase anyone is wondering, I posted this in the Prelude section because the H22 is native to the prelude. My H22 was in a prelude until I hit a deer and totaled the car
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If your going to go that far you should just mid engine/rwd it.

Switching the engine around is a monumental task for the little gain IMO.

The F23 5th gear is 0.685
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I'd imagine I can just have the motor face the opposite direction to fix that issue. I'm not really concerned with what direction the motor faces,
i don't think you understand

k series spins clockwise. h series spins counter clockwise. turning the motor around won't change that.
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i don't think you understand

k series spins clockwise. h series spins counter clockwise. turning the motor around won't change that.
Are you talking about the motor or the trans? The K series trans would be facing the right way if I turned the motor around, it would look like a K-swap just with a H22 instead. It shouldn't matter as long as the car moves forward when its in gear.
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If your going to go that far you should just mid engine/rwd it.

Switching the engine around is a monumental task for the little gain IMO.

The F23 5th gear is 0.685
I've already been thru the monumental task of swapping my H22 into my DA. Flipping it around shouldn't be that serious of a task.

Also, none of the F-series transmissions have LSD. Not sure if its possible to swap differentials, but I still like the idea of having a 6th gear. According to http://www.zealautowerks.com/transcalc.php i'd have to do some gear swapping to achieve the best of both worlds (acceleration and top speed)

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I've already been thru the monumental task of swapping my H22 into my DA. Flipping it around shouldn't be that serious of a task.

Also, none of the F-series transmissions have LSD. Not sure if its possible to swap differentials, but I still like the idea of having a 6th gear. According to http://www.zealautowerks.com/transcalc.php i'd have to do some gear swapping to achieve the best of both worlds (acceleration and top speed)
Wasnt saying swap whole trans, just the 5th gear cog itself into you're what ever you got. Although if turbo long gear ratios are desired, a F23 trans with aftermarket lsd is the best option.

Well a non-lsd trans can be built with aftermarket lsd and and new final drive which changes the gear ratio drastically.

factory LSD's cant be upgraded for H tans.

Wasnt sure if you were referring to the rwd part. Cause you could do a H2B with a CRV transmission and transfercase to make a rwd h22.

I personally think a rwd h2b would be easier, cheaper, have more resources for help, and more badass then a 6 spd reverse swapped h22 if even possible through mechanical wizardry. You know how many custom parts that would require.. mind boggling $$$.

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Are you talking about the motor or the trans? The K series trans would be facing the right way if I turned the motor around, it would look like a K-swap just with a H22 instead. It shouldn't matter as long as the car moves forward when its in gear.
And how do you get around the fact that the H22 spins CCW, while the K series engine spins CW? When you turn the motor 180 degrees (which you'd have to do anyway because that's the manner in which the K series trans is configured), it doesn't solve the problem. Think about it.

The driveshafts would actually spin the right direction if you put the K series trans in place of the H22 trans, but then the driveshafts would be in front of the trans instead of behind it; not to mention any possible other issues with the transmission spinning the opposite direction for which it was designed (not sure if that would be a problem or not).
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Are you talking about the motor or the trans? The K series trans would be facing the right way if I turned the motor around, it would look like a K-swap just with a H22 instead. It shouldn't matter as long as the car moves forward when its in gear.
You still don't understand. If you can't get this simple concept, just get this idea out of your head right now.
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holy RICER OF ALL RICER questions....paul walker is rolling in his grave!
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Default Re: H22A with 6-speed K transmission?

Originally Posted by SoFresh1189
Are you talking about the motor or the trans? The K series trans would be facing the right way if I turned the motor around, it would look like a K-swap just with a H22 instead. It shouldn't matter as long as the car moves forward when its in gear.
Bro you really need to re-think what you just said right there.

It was explained just above.

Just turning the transmission around will not make it work.

The entire rotating assembly does not spin in the same direction as the K series transmission. You would have to re-engineer the entire rotating assembly in the K series transmission to spin in the same direction of the H22.

Turning the motor around does not stop it from spinning in the opposite direction as the K series motor.

Think about it....
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DOOOO EEEIIIIITTTT!!!!!



tHIS wouLD bECOMe the FASteST car In REVerse EVVVVAAAARRRRR!!! tHOSE eXTRa fIVE gEArs of Reverse wouLD Be GReat. You WOULD beat every car you ever raced as long as they too drove in reverse, but you see, you woudl have the upper hand as instead of only one reverse gear you would have 6 speed reverse.



Now that i have typed that, i need to go kick my self in the ***** for even thinking of entertaining such a horrible waste of a thread.
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OK DOWN HILL.

OP you cant spin mat them together. The K transmissions spins different direction from an H series. Unless you plan to spend alot of money on making a reverse running H that are only like 10 ever to really exist, then stop wasting your time with this idea. other opinion is run a complete K series motor and trans.
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