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Old 07-14-2006, 08:51 AM
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Default Can't find a certain fitting for a Prelude SS clutch line...

The Prelude clutch MC uses a 12mm flared fitting instead of a 10mm like every other fitting on the rest of the car (or any other car for that matter), and I cannot find 12mm -3 AN brake system fitting ANYWHERE....10mm to -3 are easy to find.

I've searched Summit, Jegs, Earls website, Russell, Aeroquip, etc with my best effort I can't find anything.

I did order a -3 to 7/16-24 fitting which is the closest thing to 12mm fine thread, but it just doesn't fit right.

So the point is, does anyone know where to find a -3 AN to 12mm BRAKE fitting so we can all have a full SS clutch line???

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is this all the way back from the mc to the clutch pump?
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or i should say, are you replacing the hardline or the rubber hose?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soundbomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is this all the way back from the mc to the clutch pump?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, the whole thing. Should be about 7' long or so and it'll replace everything, hardlines, rubber lines, brackets, fittings, damper...all this crap-



The master cylinder has a 12mm and the slave cylinder has a 10mm.
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damn homie, you're nuts! haha, so you're really gonna take out the clutch damper?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soundbomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn homie, you're nuts! haha, so you're really gonna take out the clutch damper?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lots of cars don't have one. Like the fuel pressure damper on some JDM engines...I've never had one I don't have any problems.
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so it's cool to run without it? my original plan was just to replace that rubber line from the damper to the slave with ss
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soundbomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so it's cool to run without it? my original plan was just to replace that rubber line from the damper to the slave with ss</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, from what little information I could find on the subject , a clutch damper is mainly for comfort and is mainly used on 'higher end' or luxury cars. Since the Prelude was Hondas sort of luxury sports car at the time, I guess that's why they used it.

Here's a 95 Civic clutch line--



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If you find one, PLEASE keep us updated. This is one thing I've been meaning to do for a long time. Just never had the motivation to do it. If you can source out the part # or place to get it, it'll be a great push in the right direction.

Keep up the good work Hawk!
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I had a line fabricated to go from the clutch MC direct to the slave, eliminating the damper and i have had no problems at all. The place i had the line fabricated had the correct size fitting for the slave, it just wasnt a "swivel" type fitting, so i had to tighten it to the slave cylinder before bolting the slave to the tranny so the line wouldnt get all twisted.

on a side note: The hydraulic guy also said that SS covered brake lines dont swell any less than your standard rubber brake lines, which already have a steel sleeve inside the rubber. The SS cover is just bling, in his opinion.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by syntax. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a line fabricated to go from the clutch MC direct to the slave, eliminating the damper and i have had no problems at all. The place i had the line fabricated had the correct size fitting for the slave, it just wasnt a "swivel" type fitting, so i had to tighten it to the slave cylinder before bolting the slave to the tranny so the line wouldnt get all twisted.
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Who fabricated the line and what kind of fitting was it?? Was it like a speedshop or a hydraulic shop or what?

Thanks for the info
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Who fabricated the line and what kind of fitting was it?? Was it like a speedshop or a hydraulic shop or what?

Thanks for the info </TD></TR></TABLE>

It was a hydraulic shop. I just brought in the two ends, the one from the slave and the one from the mc. the fitting was just a standard ss fiting that they crimped onto the hydraulic line.

I'll take a picture if you think it will help
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by syntax. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It was a hydraulic shop. I just brought in the two ends, the one from the slave and the one from the mc. the fitting was just a standard ss fiting that they crimped onto the hydraulic line.

I'll take a picture if you think it will help</TD></TR></TABLE>

You brought them the stock hose ends?

A picture would be great if you get the chance.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You brought them the stock hose ends?

A picture would be great if you get the chance. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, i brought them the stock ends to match, this was when i was doing a h22 swap as going from auto to manual, so i already had everthing apart.

Its kinda hard to get a good pic, this is the best i can do:





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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by syntax. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes, i brought them the stock ends to match, this was when i was doing a h22 swap as going from auto to manual, so i already had everthing apart.

Its kinda hard to get a good pic, this is the best i can do:



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That's awesome, thank you.

I guess I'll find a local hydraulic place.
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If you look at that last picture, the one of the MC, you can see the hose is a little pinched up against the firewall. if i were to do it again i would try and find a fitting that had a 22 or 45 deg bend on it to clear that a little better. the straight fitting still works though.

heres a thread from way back, im glad i wrote down the fitting sizes because i would have forgotten by now. hope this helps

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=2
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by syntax. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you look at that last picture, the one of the MC, you can see the hose is a little pinched up against the firewall. if i were to do it again i would try and find a fitting that had a 22 or 45 deg bend on it to clear that a little better. the straight fitting still works though.

heres a thread from way back, im glad i wrote down the fitting sizes because i would have forgotten by now. hope this helps

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=2</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, the 7/16 fitting I got is a 45 and it looks like it will work pretty good as far as the angle. I would really like to get this done with quality swivel AN fittings...

I responded a lot in that thread and I totally forgot about it, haha. Good info
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Default Re: Can't find a certain fitting for a Prelude SS clutch line... (syntax.)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by syntax. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on a side note: The hydraulic guy also said that SS covered brake lines dont swell any less than your standard rubber brake lines, which already have a steel sleeve inside the rubber. The SS cover is just bling, in his opinion.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think I can vouch for this. I replaced the rubber clutch flex line going to the slave cylinder with a SS from Techna-Fit and noticed no difference whatsoever. Funny thing is that it was $25 and the OEM rubber one is almost $80 I think.
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hard lines are better then ss lines. ss lines give a lil; hard lines don't. alot of kids with 2g dsm were buying lines to go the whole only to notice they actually hurt the performance of the brakes
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i just recently swapped my lude auto &gt; manual and the ONLY store i could find this fitting at was Car Quest, they only have it in their catalog and they had to order it. you could try them if you cant find one elsewhere.
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This thread is old guys.. Why are we bumping it for no reason?


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastlude69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hard lines are better then ss lines. ss lines give a lil; hard lines don't. alot of kids with 2g dsm were buying lines to go the whole only to notice they actually hurt the performance of the brakes</TD></TR></TABLE>

This thread has nothing to do with Brake Lines.
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