Pullig

i got these off ebay brand New for $61.00 dollars shipped. I only got the front 2 for now cuz i was a lil short on money plus the back rotors were still in very excellent condition. I did a whole brake job also . I was in Huge need of that. This is on a Honda Prelude 1995 Special edition if anyone is wondering. Well im posting so people will know how excellent these rotors are and great quality. The center is even Powder coated blue so they really look nice. They stop very smooth and NO noise at all i could tell they are stopping much sooner. Well here is a Picture of them . Hope the post will get people to go out and get some.

bb6h22a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pullig &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i got these off ebay brand New for $61.00 dollars shipped. I only got the front 2 for now cuz i was a lil short on money plus the back rotors were still in very excellent condition. I did a whole brake job also . I was in Huge need of that. This is on a Honda Prelude 1995 Special edition if anyone is wondering. Well im posting so people will know how excellent these rotors are and great quality. The center is even Powder coated blue so they really look nice. They stop very smooth and NO noise at all i could tell they are stopping much sooner. Well here is a Picture of them . Hope the post will get people to go out and get some.

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Glad YOU like them, but cross drilled and slotted rotors do nothing for performance (the slots might, but that point is debatable, and is nontheless independant of actual braking performance). If I were you, I wouldn't suggest others "go out and get some soon" as the only data you're going off of, it totally subjective and it isn't based on fact.

Pullig

yeah who cares about find performace data im going basically off my experience with them. SO its my opinion that people should go get them and yes i think they stop much better.

DCFIVER

Uhh yeah. give it a few months to at least see if they warp any before you call them gold.

Pullig

ok yeah ill do that and post again but they seem really good quality

bb6h22a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pullig &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah who cares about find performace data</TD></TR></TABLE>

People who don't enjoy throwing money at useless parts. That's who.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im going basically off my experience with them. SO its my opinion that people should go get them</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fair enough.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and yes i think they stop much better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, sadly, you're wrong. The brakes don't stop the car - the tires do; think about what the brakes do (or are meant to do) and you'll understand why a cross drilled rotor isn't an ideal solution.

Pullig

whoa LOL this is my first post ever and getting called an idiot WTF thas not cool i think i know alot abt cars my Prelude has basically all bolt-ons all power pulleys , throttle spacer , 6 puck extreme clutch , short ram intake, toucan 4-2-1 headers , no cat , no resonator, and APC muffler . This car has the H23 non-vtec 5 speed and runs 14.90 at 93mph so i dont think im an idiot running those kinda numbers on a fairly stock h23 thanks again

Hawkze_2.3

Y0, yOu b3 runn1N SuM t14ht nUm83rZ Fo0L!! Having a throttle body spacer does make you ignorant of the workings of a modern fuel-injected engine. Also, why do you have more than 1 header, smarty-man?

jnet

Uhm if cross drilled rotors don't do anything to improve break performance then why does a WRX Sti come with them? Why do most performance cars come with them? Why are offered as performance upgrades?

Pullig

i actually like the throttle spacer it whistles really loud wen part throttle and i noticed a nice gain with it so im very happy with it and why make the comment abt the header u know what i mean and the numbers are real i have slips to prove it


Modified by Pullig at 4:08 PM 1/14/2005

Kronn 98SH

i have a few things to say:

1)i had warped rotors and my car wouldn't stop for ****....brake pads were standard AutoZone quality with only a few thousand miles remaining on them....so i replaced all 4 rotors and all 8 brakepads....now you're thinking, why replace everything?

2)i replaced all 4 rotors with aftermarket ones....fronts are cross-drilled/slotted and backs are regular....all brakepads are STS ceramics and i now stop on a dime....maybe it's just the pads and the rotors play no role (but it had nothing to do with my tires since they didn't change)....but i don't care because....

3)this whole operation cost me $95 and 1.5 hours in the garage

BTW, i've also noticed a 90% drop in brake dust accumulation on my wheels....so for those of you that love a clean ride, i strongly recommend ceramics

Pullig

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kronn 98SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a few things to say:

1)i had warped rotors and my car wouldn't stop for ****....brake pads were standard AutoZone quality with only a few thousand miles remaining on them....so i replaced all 4 rotors and all 8 brakepads....now you're thinking, why replace everything?

2)i replaced all 4 rotors with aftermarket ones....fronts are cross-drilled/slotted and backs are regular....all brakepads are STS ceramics and i now stop on a dime....maybe it's just the pads and the rotors play no role (but it had nothing to do with my tires since they didn't change)....but i don't care because....

3)this whole operation cost me $95 and 1.5 hours in the garage

BTW, i've also noticed a 90% drop in brake dust accumulation on my wheels....so for those of you that love a clean ride, i strongly recommend ceramics</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah exactly dude thanks for posting he prolly hasnt ever even tryed them i say dont knock it till u try it

lude_behavior

I'd like to see a time slip.

Pullig

http://img.photobucket.com/alb...1.jpg
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best image i could get on the slip sorry but im the left and if anyone is interested the one on the right is a 00 Mustang Gt they SUCK

lude_behavior

word.

Revi

Damn people, he simply got rotors put on his car. Leave all the flamming for the ones who get front mount intakes and call them intercoolers.Cross Drilled/slotted rotors have been proven to improve braking ability, but reallity is. We wont notice or even need them in our cars. Corvettes, Vipers and other higher performance cars will benefit from rotors better than us. Its the actuall size of the rotor and caliper that will improve your braking anyways. 14in rotors will slow you down alot better than 9in rotors. And tires come into play only when your wheels lock, cornering and accelerating also rely on tires.

lunarcry

I have to agree with bb6h22a without data to prove your claim its all useless from the performance point of view, but for the Appearance perspective i have to said that they look good which let me to believe that you should have posted this at the Miscellaneous and Appearance forum

Pullig

well im new and dont really know much abt this this is my first ever post so sorry abt that

teknoracing

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pullig &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i think i know alot abt cars my Prelude has basically all bolt-ons all power pulleys , throttle spacer , 6 puck extreme clutch , short ram intake, toucan 4-2-1 headers , no cat , no resonator, and APC muffler .</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just cause you have all these parts doesnt mean you know a lot about cars. My g/f's teg has all bolt ons, ACT stage two clutch, H&R/koni suspension, and she doesnt know a lot about cars. All she knows is that it goes fast. We worked together on the installs so she knows some but not all.

Why are you buying Toucan and APC parts?? Learn from others and save a little more money to buy parts that have some research behind them . No flaming, just warning, dont take this the wrong way

bb6h22a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Pullig &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whoa LOL this is my first post ever and getting called an idiot WTF thas not cool </TD></TR></TABLE>

No one called you an idiot (at least I didn't). I pointed out a series of misconceptions and the error of subjectivity in your generalized impressions with your new rotors; you think they improve braking performance, Physics disagrees with you. Period.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think i know alot abt cars my Prelude has basically all bolt-ons all power pulleys , throttle spacer , 6 puck extreme clutch , short ram intake, toucan 4-2-1 headers , no cat , no resonator, and APC muffler .</TD></TR></TABLE>

APC muffler means what?

Did you get a free muffler bearing too?

A laundry list of parts means n-o-t-h-i-ng.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This car has the H23 non-vtec 5 speed and runs 14.90 at 93mph so i dont think im an idiot running those kinda numbers on a fairly stock h23 thanks again </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah so? I ran a 1.45 at Big Willow on street tires and hold a Prelude class lap record at ButtonWillow. Big deal.

Pullig

well the reason i thoguht u called me an idiot was becuz of the thing at the end of ur replys i think its ur signature but i didnt notice its there aftr each reply MY bad and i owe u an apology

bb6h22a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kronn 98SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a few things to say:

1)i had warped rotors and my car wouldn't stop for ****....brake pads were standard AutoZone quality with only a few thousand miles remaining on them....so i replaced all 4 rotors and all 8 brakepads....now you're thinking, why replace everything?

2)i replaced all 4 rotors with aftermarket ones....fronts are cross-drilled/slotted and backs are regular....all brakepads are STS ceramics and i now stop on a dime....maybe it's just the pads and the rotors play no role (but it had nothing to do with my tires since they didn't change)....but i don't care because....
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Anything would feel better than backingpads against warped rotors. Again, your points are subjective, and simply becuase you *think* xdrilled rotors improved your braking performance doesn't mean it actually happened. Again, those of you who keep advocating parts X, Y and Z but refuse to look at hows and whys of a givencomponent's function, don't hold a lot of credibility with me. And the fact that your *impressions* are based on comparisons of poor components v. mediocore components doesn't do much either.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3)this whole operation cost me $95 and 1.5 hours in the garage

BTW, i've also noticed a 90% drop in brake dust accumulation on my wheels....so for those of you that love a clean ride, i strongly recommend ceramics</TD></TR></TABLE>

Brake dust isn't a factor that ANYONE who's interested in a serious brake setup considers; it's like sayin "Gee, it's pink and that means it's good!"

bb6h22a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jnet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uhm if cross drilled rotors don't do anything to improve break performance then why does a WRX Sti come with them? Why do most performance cars come with them? Why are offered as performance upgrades? </TD></TR></TABLE>

The STi (those that I've seen) have SOLID rotors - the answer to the other part of your question is one word : MARKETING.

bb6h22a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Revi-Ra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn people, he simply got rotors put on his car. Leave all the flamming for the ones who get front mount intakes and call them intercoolers.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cross drilled rotors are the braking equivelant of front mount intake-coolers whatever the *****.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cross Drilled/slotted rotors have been proven to improve braking ability, but reallity is.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah. In the 50s when brake pads sucks, brakes sucked and most cars still ran with drums.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We wont notice or even need them in our cars. Corvettes, Vipers and other higher performance cars will benefit from rotors better than us. Its the actuall size of the rotor and caliper that will improve your braking anyways. 14in rotors will slow you down alot better than 9in rotors.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You're so close - think about why you'd want a larger, thicker rotor (Hint words: Heat Sink!!!)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And tires come into play only when your wheels lock, cornering and accelerating also rely on tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is FALSE. The tires are the foremost limiting quotient.

bad-monkey

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Revi-Ra &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn people, he simply got rotors put on his car. Leave all the flamming for the ones who get front mount intakes and call them intercoolers.Cross Drilled/slotted rotors have been proven to improve braking ability, but reallity is. We wont notice or even need them in our cars. Corvettes, Vipers and other higher performance cars will benefit from rotors better than us. Its the actuall size of the rotor and caliper that will improve your braking anyways. 14in rotors will slow you down alot better than 9in rotors. And tires come into play only when your wheels lock, cornering and accelerating also rely on tires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no one's started flaming...yet.

the man (bb6h22a) is simply presenting scientific facts and disagreeing with someone.

this topic has been covered over and over and over, ad nauseum. the bottom line is that x-drilled rotors are for SHOW purposes only. If that's why you have em, more power to ya. however, if you have them because you think they're better for performance, you are mistaken, and for your own benefit ought to accept a correction administered by what could only be called an overwhelming consensus, established by those who know about these things.

and if there's an isolated group(s) of people that "knows" about these things, i'd say it was the road racers/mechanical engineers/physicists that populate certain areas of this website.