bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph (dartonh22)
If the flywheel is not balanced then yes it can cause vibration issues. If you had it resufaced it should of been rebalanced because removing material is going to take it out of balance.
You seem to have ruled out the 2 most common problems, the tire balance and axles. If you were having some kind of problem with tie rod or ball joint its not going to have symptoms like your describing. Wheel bearing are going to cause a noise or a noise when hitting bumps or something. With your car jacked up grab your wheel at 12 and 6 and 3 and 9 and shake feeling for movement.
If any balljoints or tie rods need replacing I would do that first anyway cause it should be done anyway. Then if its still there pull that trans. I really think the problem is in the flywheel with my best interent diag. After all is said and done get an alignment and enjoy.
You seem to have ruled out the 2 most common problems, the tire balance and axles. If you were having some kind of problem with tie rod or ball joint its not going to have symptoms like your describing. Wheel bearing are going to cause a noise or a noise when hitting bumps or something. With your car jacked up grab your wheel at 12 and 6 and 3 and 9 and shake feeling for movement.
If any balljoints or tie rods need replacing I would do that first anyway cause it should be done anyway. Then if its still there pull that trans. I really think the problem is in the flywheel with my best interent diag. After all is said and done get an alignment and enjoy.
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph (spoonfedcrx)
$5 Says axles.
If they are from autozone or a similar store, they are not 'new' they are rebuilt, and 90% of the time crap.
They are not balanced properly.
Buy some quality ones like raxles.com or driveshaftshop.com
If they are from autozone or a similar store, they are not 'new' they are rebuilt, and 90% of the time crap.
They are not balanced properly.
Buy some quality ones like raxles.com or driveshaftshop.com
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph (Arsenal)
i will be replacing my axles this weekend hopefully that solves the problem
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph (Arsenal)
haha well....i had bought ones off some auto parts website like a year ago when i changed out my trans and when the vibrations started. Of course the cv boots are blown already they are complete junk. I just got some from autozone. I know they are prolly the same crappy quality but with lifetime replacement i said what the hell.
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph (Arsenal)
well we shall see i have a lot of friends that have bought brand new axles from autozone and havent had any problems
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I vote axels as well. Auto parts stores sell remaned axels (most of the time) the bearings and CV boots are new but the shaft itself is used. Eventually they bend and twist out of shape. Not noticeable to the naked eye but enough to cause vibrations. And axels do not vibrate all the time when they are bad.They generally vibrate between 30-60mph....
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yes i have swapped axles at least 4 times, and there isn't even a small change, to the vibrations, but as far as the bad axles from autozone, they may notr last long but from out of the box i have never had a problem and even dss or raxlees doesn't balance their axles, cause i asked them, not even honda, does.
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my flywheel was resurfaced at napa and they did the whole stepping thing, but the car does shudder at light take-off but i thought it was cause of the 6-puck, but next time i pul the motor i will probably get a knew one and see what happens thanks for the info and keep them coming if not already posted, i will post once i find the problem.
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I am having a very similar problem.. I have an 88 CRX HF and I just replaced the axle on the drivers side.. Now it vibrates really hard between mid 2nd gear and in 3rd (30-50 MPH) it has to be the axle because I had no similar problems prior to the change out... I bought these from a H-T member brand new.. I wonder if an autozone will take them back?...
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i am betting its tire balance just because you tried someone else doesnt mean its balance. Also check for uneven wear in the tires they can cause viberation the inner part of the tire.
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Re: (EF_ST@TUS)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EF_ST@TUS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I just figured out the problem.. It is the axle I replaced.. found like 3 other threads that were the same outcome. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph
I am having the same problem 1999 Accord V6 automatic transmission. I've replaced axles, motor mount, applied the TSB for EGR valve replacement, full port/injection cleaning, and still around 1700 rpm 35-45 mph in 4th gear I get a bad vibration. If I'm in 3rd gear I haven't been able to make it vibrate like it does in 4th. Assuming it is bad axles, where is the best place to buy high-quality new axles?
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph
$5 says its either motor mounts or Differential. Since you've confirmed that the motor mounts are good then....
If the axles were out-of-round then you would have the vibration at speed regardless of acceleration or deceleration or coasting. I've experienced just that. I now only buy new axles.
However I've had a vibration like you describe under load and I changed EVERYTHING:
Mounts
Tie-Rods
UCA's
LCA's
Steering Rack
Motor Mounts (poly)
Radius Rod Bushings
wheel bearings/hubs/rotors/wheels
When did it finally go away? When I swapped trannys. Bummer I know.
If the axles were out-of-round then you would have the vibration at speed regardless of acceleration or deceleration or coasting. I've experienced just that. I now only buy new axles.
However I've had a vibration like you describe under load and I changed EVERYTHING:
Mounts
Tie-Rods
UCA's
LCA's
Steering Rack
Motor Mounts (poly)
Radius Rod Bushings
wheel bearings/hubs/rotors/wheels
When did it finally go away? When I swapped trannys. Bummer I know.
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph
I would suggest with front of car on jack stands. secure one wheel at a time from spinning. Its not hard to keep one side from spinning while the other side rotates at the speed your experiencing vibration/noise. check to see if the problem is left side or right side. Also spin the wheels both at same time. Remember this is unsprung weight and may upset the condition required to simulate the problem.
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph
if you switched from auto trans to manual. Did you use a two piece axel as manual cars come that way on one side?
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have you thought of replacing your upper control arms?.....im saying this because we recently replaced those on my mom's hyudai sonata and it made the difference...the car also had vibration issues and 3 months earlier we had replaced the shocks...but the problem was still there, after we replaced the upper control arms, the whole front end suspension felt alot smoother and the vibration stopped, and knowing that a lot of these components end up being forgotten and knowing those two bushings in the upper control arm go to s**** quickly after a few launches and w/the wear and tear on them seems it could be a possibility..well i hope this helps
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph
differential is a balanced item. but you have switched Tranys. just a thought. Ive experienced a vibration from diff in an Automatic
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph
I'm going to have to say it's also a drive shaft. I would buy a new one from the dealer. Tie rods, ball joints, control arms, all that stuff won't cause a vibration at a specific speed like that and go away. Tire balancing would usually cause a vibration at around 60mph and go away around 75mph or higher.. Also, if the tire's off balance, your steering wheel would be shaking like crazy or your seat would be if it's coming from the rear.
second guess would be in the tranny but you already said it was there before and after the swap was done
second guess would be in the tranny but you already said it was there before and after the swap was done
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph
i would'nt compare hyundai to honda.i have the same problem.it started after i changed my wheel bearings.since i have changed the tie rod ends and it still vibrates between 80 and 115 km.if i keep it in 3rd gear the vibration is less than if i let it go into 4th. BTW my car is an automatic 1999 accord v6 2dr
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph
I have the same exact problem on my 93 civic changed the D/S axle twice,now trying reman from the honda dealer.None of the aftermarket axles have this damper on it....I'm thinkin this might be the source of this vibration(I feel in between 30-40 mph only when accelerating) did u ever find the problem or fix it??
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Re: bad vibration only on acceleration between 35 and 50 mph
Sorry no.i haven't found the problem on my car.im now having transmission problems so i haven't even bothered.keep us informed on the dealer part please