towns

Hi guys,

I can't seem to find a 5th gen lude AEM big brake kit. Do they make one or is there another car that they make one for that it'll fit to?

5 x 114.3!

Thanks alot!

ewizzy

More to the point, will this kit fit? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33564
I know my calipers are bigger than the Acura RSX as IIRC they are the same size as the UK Civic Type R?

If the PCD is the same and the mounting brackets will take a 5th gen lude caliper then it should fit Yeah?


Thanks Towns for posting the question though!

Wiseguy619

AEM does make a big brake kit for the 5th generation. It comes with larger rotors and all the necessary hardware to install it.

http://www.aempower.com/product_brake.asp

ewizzy

And in the UK, we can have the pleasure of this kit delivered to our doors at a lovely price off...........Wait for it.............bit longer............$1096 when it costs just $400 your side of the water!

I was asking about the kit from the ebay seller above as its actually not a bad price, and delivery to the UK isnt that bad either..........

Anyone else answer my querie?

Thanks ProjectPenny for taking the time to answer though!

Kal

why do you want big brake bling?!

AndyD

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why do you want big brake bling?!</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's exactly what I was just about to ask.

It MUST be about the bling. There aren't any true racers that I know that would even consider one. They know that it isn't necessary.

Chris_Gee

Towns mang!

I think u need to slam that to the floor y0!



I have nothing constructive to add... thankyou

Chris_Gee

ewizzy

Increasing the size of the disk, even though you are not increasing the braking area, increases the rotational torque, thus making you stop quicker, also, with the big brake kit, the amount of time spent on the brakes is decreased due to greater stopping power.....

I dont know about you guys, but I find that on the Heavy arsed lardy 5th gen lude, the brakes warp quicker than a thing that warps REALLY quick!!!! And before you guys say about bedding the pads and disks properly, I always bed them in properly, and I have never had a problem on any other car that I have owned...
I just think that 282mm disks are just not big enough or man enough to cope with the hard driving that I do on the roads in the UK!

Plus, how often do you do repeated slowing from 150mph + on US motorways? I do, all the time, and it seems that, this combined with HARD back road driving is killing my disks!

I am actually a bit skeptical about the AEM big brakes being able to cope with the kind of driving that I do, and I think I may have to bite the bullet and get some AP 6 pots and 330mm disks

Thanks for any replies

Kind regards

Alex

ewizzy

Have you EVER had ANY constructive comments?..............anywhere?


I think you need to shizzle in the dizzle! and get ride y0 whip! y0! homma!

AndyD

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ewizzy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Increasing the size of the disk, even though you are not increasing the braking area, increases the rotational torque, thus making you stop quicker, also, with the big brake kit, the amount of time spent on the brakes is decreased due to greater stopping power.....

I dont know about you guys, but I find that on the Heavy arsed lardy 5th gen lude, the brakes warp quicker than a thing that warps REALLY quick!!!! And before you guys say about bedding the pads and disks properly, I always bed them in properly, and I have never had a problem on any other car that I have owned...
I just think that 282mm disks are just not big enough or man enough to cope with the hard driving that I do on the roads in the UK!

Plus, how often do you do repeated slowing from 150mph + on US motorways? I do, all the time, and it seems that, this combined with HARD back road driving is killing my disks!

I am actually a bit skeptical about the AEM big brakes being able to cope with the kind of driving that I do, and I think I may have to bite the bullet and get some AP 6 pots and 330mm disks

Thanks for any replies

Kind regards

Alex </TD></TR></TABLE>

I hope to GOD this post was a joke.

Matgallis

the 5th gen braking is OUTSTANDING. Bigger rotors just means you're going to lock the wheels up faster, that's all. If u want to stop faster get some really sticky tires.

Kal

lol losing control of the car at 150+ mph (that you say you do) because of wheel lock must suck

Honda318dx

Um, you don't need better brakes, just better pads.... Try Axxis Ultimates, if that doesn't do it, then get Cobalt GT-Sports, which is pretty much a street/track pad..

I have a prelude racecar, that see's 140mph every lap, and the stock setup has always been acceptable..

ewizzy

Which bit?

ewizzy

Not lost control of it yet....Done a lot of driving too

ewizzy

So you reckon brembo blanks and track pads will stop the rotors warping?

pentaq

You may look around for Accord Type R rotors and calipers, but you must have 17" wheels then. Shouldn't be a problem in the UK to find them for a reasonable money. Those rotors are 300mm in diameter.

towns

Alex, I know of a pair of ATR caliper brackets for 40 sheets if you want them.

UnknownCynRunner

It MUST be about the bling. There aren't any true racers that I know that would even consider one. They know that it isn't necessary-AndyD

Exactly and thats precisley the problem- there arent too many true racers out there and after spending numberous hours infront the computer reading posts the last few nites there arent too many people out there who havent graduated from the begginer class either. Im not caliming to be an expert driver but I can tell you that I've grown up with racing as my father was a crew chief. I've met way too many people who swear up and down they haul *** through these convientlly isloated canyons near my house and well the majority arent any better than sub par. Im thinking maybe its just my area but im frieghtend because sum of the things u guys say in these posts resemble all too closely wut i hear on the streets. Brakes play way too big of a role in performance driving to neglect them. As Matgallis sed, "the 5th gen braking is OUTSTANDING." Im not to knowledgeable about the specs but if the 5th gen brakes are anything like the 4th gens they are indeed good compared to alot of cars on the road. Persoanlly Im a perfectionist and the stock brakes on the 4th gen suffer from horrendous brake fade during my runs. id also like to see way shorter breaking ditances. i most certainly see the need for a better product. If the brakes are holding u up and u wanna go faster then do ur homewerk and upgrade dont let people tell u the brakes are already outstanding and wut do u need that for. Between u and me ewizzy dont let people who have lesser standards get in the way.

madcatz

way to burn your first post guy, where the hell is that thumb up.......tone it down a notch and speak english for us non I dun read english well guys
I also have nothing constructive to say here

D.K

If you're looking for a AEM big brake kit I have a brand new kit, still in the box if you're interested. I don't need it since I don't have a Prelude anymore.

bb6h22a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by towns &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi guys,

I can't seem to find a 5th gen lude AEM big brake kit. Do they make one or is there another car that they make one for that it'll fit to?

5 x 114.3!

Thanks alot! </TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't need it.
I've got 30 + track days on my stock 5th gen brake setup, and it's fine. The car has 140 k miles, and I've just recently had to replace the m/c and rebuilt the calipers; the brakes certainly do their job just fine. Run proper pads, fresh fluid and, if you're really getting on the brakes, then duct them. That's all you'll need.
That AEM system is junk -- any system that simply relocates the postion of the OEM caliper functions best as a cosmetic accessory, not a functional improvment.

UnknownCynRunner

Simply saying 30 track days is misleading. People hear "track" and either put it together with race car or get all excited and forget about about the details. Wut track? How long was the track? How many corners in the track? How tight was the track? Wut were ur lap times and how did they compare to people in ur class? How many actual track miles does ur car ? How many consecutive hot laps and the how much total time (duration of race or practice or wutever u did on the track at speed). I enjoy doing 2 hour stints of all but maybe 3 0r 4 miles at full throttle on moutain roads where 180s are as common as civics in LA with intake and exhaust.Im sorry but i'm really very upset with my 4th Gen brakes on downhill segments. And for track boy and anybody else thats in agreement i hope u continue to enjoy 60-0 in 120 feet. like i sed before sum people just have higher standards to me 120 feet is no good. im not telling anybody they're wack for thinking 120 feet is good. Just dont tell me im wack for expecting much better. I never sed that AEM brakes were any good thats why i suggested doing ur homework. Find out what werks and wut doesnt for sum of u that means check the message board and askur friends.Which is OK but try to go further than that it cant hurt to educate urself on exactly wut ur spending ur hard earned money on. And by educate i mean find speed shops near u and go in there and tell wut u wanna do wut u wanna spend and wut ur expectations are try to seek as much professional opinion as u can. I mean if ur gunna have a major surgery done ur not going to ur hot shot friend whos half way through med school and thinks he knows wut hes doing and hitting up to see if he's free this weekend so he can do the surgery. U werk with the hand u've been delt and u get the best MF u can find.

bad-monkey

i'll answer in part for BB6h22a:

Willow Springs International Raceway, Big Track and Streets of Willow:


the Big Track is one of the fastest tracks in the country, with speeds reaching 140 mph+ on the front straight.

Streets of Willow is a highly technical 1.9 mi track featuring 14 turns in full configuration.

Buttonwillow Raceway Park:


at 3 miles in length, BW is the longest track in the LA area. Featuring 18 different turns with banks, esses, and other features.

All of these tracks have been driven by BB6, myself, and others on H-T on close to stock brake setups with varying levels of success. The one constant is that the brakes were usually not the problem. These tracks are also staples in the West Coast Honda Challenge circuit, and for most of the cars in HC the stock brake setups (or close to stock brake setups) do just fine.

If you don't have enough brake for your tires, then maybe a BBK is for you, problem is, most people have enough brake for their tires (hoosiers, even) so that makes a BBK somewhat unnecessary.

if you're serious about modifying your braking system a BBK won't fix things by itself. You'll need to upgrade the lines, master cylinder, pads to compensate for the new components. If you're having problems with fade, a system flush, new fluid, & the right brake pad is usually the solution.

aside from the guys running hybrids, if you search the RR/AX forum, you'll find that 90% of the replies recommend 2 things for better braking: good tires and good pads. Before i'd ask some shopkeeper who's hellbent on selling me a $1500 big brake kit, i'd ask road racers like BB6 and the guys in the RR/AX forum. maybe some guys at the local auto-x. maybe go to a HC race and walk around the pits and strike up convo.

btw, darwin has a theory about canyon running...

Kal

damn, I wish i lived in CA. that track looks madd fun