Notices
Honda CR-V & Element 2WD & 4WD Element & CR-V

Element 6 speed conversion

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-18-2015, 09:57 AM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Hernst's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Vancouver, Washington
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Element 6 speed conversion

Considering converting my 04 element manual transmission to a 6 speed.
Seen instructions on the web at other sites. Anyone have experience doing this? How'd it turn out?
Old 05-19-2015, 04:01 AM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Cjek4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Queensvillage, ny, Unitedstates
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

It was a piece of cake. I've had my 2005 CRV coverted to 6 speed for about 2 years and 50,000 miles. I followed the guide I seen that was done to an element. I bought the parts from Honda, and I took the CR-V and the parts to a speed shop and in one day I got my car back. I also changed the clutch while they were there.
Old 05-23-2015, 08:18 AM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Hernst's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Vancouver, Washington
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

What was your increase in mpg?

Any side effects on engine performance? Other than lower rpm?
Old 01-24-2016, 02:48 PM
  #4  
Trial User
 
fcbspain's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: grand rapids michigan
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

i am very interested in doing this as well , any more info please , is it worth the const and trouble?
Old 01-24-2016, 04:09 PM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
LDForget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,415
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

can this conversion be done to a awd tranny, or only 2wd?
Old 01-25-2016, 07:36 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
 
EJ8_Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Northern California
Posts: 1,142
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

Google has a lot to say about this.Element 6 speed MT Conversion Plans/Parts - Honda Element Owners Club Forum

I will be doing this when it comes time to rebuild my tranny, and the consensus is that this will indeed work with RTAWD:
http://www.hondasuv.com/members/show...-6-SPEED-STICK!

People make it sound easy but dealing with the subframe and gear box is not like working on an old B series setup... Also strict tolerances come into play.

Why Honda did not offer this as an option is beyond me. The added fuel economy is well worth it.

I recently converted to an RSX-S flywheel and stage 1 Exedy organic clutch. It was a lot of work, and the stage 1 from Exedy chatters, which according to Exedy is "normal". Needless to say I wasn't happy about a **** ton of work and money for a chattering clutch.

Here's the commentary from Exedy:

You will need to take off with more gas and RPM when driving this clutch compared to the OEM. The OEM clutch has a very forgiving dampening assembly so you can take off very smooth at low RPM. The racing stage 1 disc has a tighter dampening assembly that provides great throttle response however the take-off rpm will need to be increased.

Sincerely,
Steve Kaminski
Technical Coordinator
www.EXEDYUSA.com
So once again it's a different world then B series. My ITR stage 1 exedy is amazing...

Last edited by EJ8_Man; 01-25-2016 at 08:16 PM.
Old 01-26-2016, 02:26 AM
  #7  
Fish Twig
 
tony_2018's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Still hunting that foo up there
Posts: 15,555
Received 309 Likes on 285 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

At first I was thinking he wanted to go an auto to manual conversion, my bad. Yeah this 6th gear addition seems worthy. Some have reported a slight increase in mpg but that will vary because of road conditions and user adjustment.

OP if you're worried about handling the job just find a reputable shop in your area.
Old 01-27-2016, 02:47 AM
  #8  
Honda-Tech Member
 
LDForget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,415
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

Hmm I'm gonna have to look at some different first gears while I'm at it.

I went wheeling last weekend and even in first gear the whole time, it kept bogging in the deep snow with any incline. I need more gear or more hp/tq. Lol
Old 01-27-2016, 06:09 AM
  #9  
Fish Twig
 
tony_2018's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Still hunting that foo up there
Posts: 15,555
Received 309 Likes on 285 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

Would a change in the final drive work? Oh wait, doesn't the final drive also spin the rear diff?
Old 01-27-2016, 08:08 AM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
 
EJ8_Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Northern California
Posts: 1,142
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

Originally Posted by LDForget
I need more gear or more hp/tq.
You have a wide selection of gears to choose from. I personally would opt for more power. That motor responds very well to bolt-ons and select Honda parts from other K variants
Old 01-28-2016, 01:29 PM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
 
LDForget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,415
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

Originally Posted by tony_2018
Would a change in the final drive work? Oh wait, doesn't the final drive also spin the rear diff?
yeah, but it wont hurt anything like in real trucks.

Originally Posted by EJ8_Man
You have a wide selection of gears to choose from. I personally would opt for more power. That motor responds very well to bolt-ons and select Honda parts from other K variants
if im opening the transmission already, i might as well get every advantage i can get. more power is definately in my future either way though. i priced out the parts at work (im a honda technician) and it'll cost me 600 canadian pesos to buy all of the parts (minus the different first gear if i go that route).
Old 01-28-2016, 02:35 PM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
 
EJ8_Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Northern California
Posts: 1,142
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

The internets indicate that unless you change the final drive ratio you're out of luck. CRV 1st is as short as Honda offers for K gearing. Unless you go custom.

Google says CRV 1st is 3.533 and the 1st for everything else I see K series is a lower ratio. Post your link if you find otherwise. The data I have here is dated
Old 01-29-2016, 02:19 AM
  #13  
Honda-Tech Member
 
LDForget's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,415
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default Re: Element 6 speed conversion

i havent even looked yet, but i dont doubt that information. The CRV is the biggest vehicle to come with a K so it makes sense.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
95halx
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
3
11-05-2012 09:00 AM
jdmjdmjdm
Honda Prelude
1
06-23-2004 05:26 PM
DaddyFatSacks
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
1
08-29-2002 10:10 AM



Quick Reply: Element 6 speed conversion



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:13 PM.