Traction

lol seriously, I just ******* punched 8 holes in a wall, missing the stud evertime

You guys have probably seen all my threads about my car trouble, we all came to the conclusion given all the noises and power loss I gave everyone that it was my transmission throwout bearing. Well it took me 2 days to drop the tranny and change it and I just got it all tied up 45 min ago, start the car

"**** **** **** ****"

the little pebble size noise is still there. Adjusted the clutch cable and went for a test ride to see if I put it all together and maybe it would go away, WRONG

I dunno what the problem is guys, I need your help.

With the clutch out, the noise is completely gone in nuetral, but when I press it in, instantly sounds like small stone in a large can moving around.

Then you start driving and it gets louder, until you get up to about 50 or so in 4th and I can cruise without hearing it at all.

The bearing did seem sot when I pulled it out, put the new one in perfect and it was brand new, but the problem is still there.

I can also hear a small knock everytime my engine revs up (has an irratic idle 800-1300 rpm) and on first run up, there is a small knock, very light knock

HELP, I really thought I had it nailed and I could give my car a little love this week

Help

4drEF

Looks like one whole person said it might be your release bearing.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=988063

You should have inspected your clutch while you had it apart.
It might have been one of the pressure plate springs loose in there.

Traction

No idea..... so ******* mad, missed a big party saturday, car runs like ****, winters coming up

CRXBart

Does it get quieter with RPM speed or, Car speed? By that I mean, When you shift does the noise get quieter? If it constantly gets louder, with no drop between shifts, then it is the bearing inside the tranny. Not sure which one, but I had one go bad before myself, I just changed trannys. Sorry about the bad luck, and I'm not one of the people that "lied" to you. But I'm sure they don't take kindly to your attitude about this, they are just trying to help you. Hope that helps.

Cornwhiskey

It took u 2 day to drop a tranny and fix it. i would just take it to a real mechanic.

Traction

lol Im not mad at the people lol, dont take it seriously, was just a catch

And about taking 2 days, it took me atleast 13 hours, and this is the first car work Ive really ever done, so being able to remove suspension components, axles, starter, motor mounts and drop the entire tranny, fix a bearing and put it all back together, was fan ******* tastic to me

I might be able to do it in a day the next time, but I dont wanna try

And **** a mechanic, $1000 easy I would have payed, and it didnt even fix the problem lol

Joebroni

I just finished working on a car with a similar problem. Wasnt a Honda, it was a VW, but the car would violently vibrate on acceleration, and it continued to get worse until eventually the car wouldnt go into a gear. Ended up the car's transmission self-detonated somewhere, ruined it all.

Full Race A6

That totally sucks man, might as well scrap that tranny then?

If you have the cash, swap it out with another used one, tear the broken one apart just for some experience? Good luck

Home Skillet

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Joebroni &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it continued to get worse until eventually the car wouldnt go into a gear. Ended up the car's transmission self-detonated somewhere, ruined it all.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I can vouch for this kind of problem too. When I had my ZC motor the tranny would make all kinds of whirring noises but only in gear. The noise would go away when in neutral. It turned out that a piece of one of the syncros had broken off and was causing all of the sound. My tranny eventually grenaded and blew chunks everywhere.

FourthGenHatch

If the sound goes away only when the car is in neutral and it wasn't the throwout bearing I would point a finger at the input shaft bearing or countershaft bearing. The input shaft is connected to the clutch and will only spin when the clutch is engauged, so when the clutch is enguaged and the car is in gear it will spin, the imput shaft drives the counter shaft also and all the gears on the output shaft also. The gears on the output shaft spin with the input and countershaft and are only connected to the output shaft when you switch gears.

Anyway needless to say you might as well get a new transmission as something inside it is bad and if your not a mechanic than rebuilding a transmission is way ahead of your skill level. Pick up a used tranny for like $100.

rjay8604

I would say its worth it to buy another tranny to avoid not sleeping at night, little problems like this eat away mentally at people, it'd be nice to just fix it and forget it.

DocSean

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4drEF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You should have inspected your clutch while you had it apart.
It might have been one of the pressure plate springs loose in there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you have any more info/links to this problem??? I think it might be the problem on a crx I'm about to purchase with and exedy clutch in it.

MonkeyMagic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Home Skillet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I can vouch for this kind of problem too. When I had my ZC motor the tranny would make all kinds of whirring noises but only in gear. The noise would go away when in neutral. It turned out that a piece of one of the syncros had broken off and was causing all of the sound. My tranny eventually grenaded and blew chunks everywhere. </TD></TR></TABLE>

same thing happened to me. the shift forks went bad, i replaced them, and then the syncros went up.

first it wouldn't come out of fifth w/o finaggaling, then 4th went out completely, then fifth disappeared, then 3rd went out. this all happened on my way home from school which is about a 1 hour trip. by the time i made it home i only had 1st and 2nd 30mph on the expressway's shoulder is NOT fun!

wish i had pics of my si trans' internals. the 5th gear sleeve got so hot grinding it's cog that it melted the plastic race on the bearing in the mainshaft's end of the case. it was ugly... lucky it didn't lock up, when i drained the fluid it was like glitter paint.

but the shift forks were still good and i used them in my old 4 spd which im using now till i get the b swap in, which will soon after get a hydraulic trans!!

honda transmissions
cable trannys

neoclown1

dude if you want il sell you a tranny...just pm me no problems...and tell you what i even have a DX tranny, but i dont know what condition its in...really i dont..it was given to me, but i never wanted to do the hydro conversion...so ill give you it if you pick this cx one that i have...if you are interested PM me

Mugen Dom

could be the clutch disc is broken inside the pressure plate anyone agree? Sounds pretty shitty if u ask me but id deffinately take the tranny off and check the clutch make sure u have an alignment tool to put the disc and all back on

crxzcracer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FourthGenHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the sound goes away only when the car is in neutral and it wasn't the throwout bearing I would point a finger at the input shaft bearing or countershaft bearing. The input shaft is connected to the clutch and will only spin when the clutch is engauged, so when the clutch is enguaged and the car is in gear it will spin, the imput shaft drives the counter shaft also and all the gears on the output shaft also. The gears on the output shaft spin with the input and countershaft and are only connected to the output shaft when you switch gears.

Anyway needless to say you might as well get a new transmission as something inside it is bad and if your not a mechanic than rebuilding a transmission is way ahead of your skill level. Pick up a used tranny for like $100.</TD></TR></TABLE>


very smart man here

same thing with one of my pals tranny

soon2brb240

get a new tranny,make sure you have the right axles,i put the wrong size axles in once and it made noises and vibrated...maybe that will help

neoclown1

got the axles too!!!

CRXRTYPE

Guaranteed, you were just so frustrated, that you didnt check the clutch, and guaranteed like buddy said one of the springs broke off on the clutch plate,
and liek the other guy said take it to a real mechanic

fourthgenhatchB17

Unless u just changed the entire clutch assembly recently, i pretty much go by this rule : ANYTIME you take tranny down, replace the clutch and all of its related components. That even includes the little spring for the throw out bearing. Doing this helps avoid the situation you are having.
About the comment on the input shaft bearing, from my experience u can hear it (if its bad) while tranny is in neutral without touching the clutch. When u push the clutch in, everything is quiet. About the countershaft bearing...ive never dealt with a bad one yet.

MonkeyMagic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourthgenhatchB17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless u just changed the entire clutch assembly recently, i pretty much go by this rule : ANYTIME you take tranny down, replace the clutch and all of its related components. That even includes the little spring for the throw out bearing. Doing this helps avoid the situation you are having.
About the comment on the input shaft bearing, from my experience u can hear it (if its bad) while tranny is in neutral without touching the clutch. When u push the clutch in, everything is quiet. About the countershaft bearing...ive never dealt with a bad one yet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, most clutch jobs at dealers and the like will recomment a new cable and all that ****. on newer cars it is recommended to replace master cylinders and slave cylinders.

but then again driving like the car is intended that clutch should last 150K+ miles.

DocSean

What type of clutch are you running again???

FourthGenHatch

If one of the springs on the pressure plate was broken the car would chatter and vibrate like a **** whenever the car was driving, not nessessarily a peble sound.

RCautoworks

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Traction &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol seriously, I just ******* punched 8 holes in a wall, missing the stud evertime

You guys have probably seen all my threads about my car trouble, we all came to the conclusion given all the noises and power loss I gave everyone that it was my transmission throwout bearing. Well it took me 2 days to drop the tranny and change it and I just got it all tied up 45 min ago, start the car

"**** **** **** ****"

the little pebble size noise is still there. Adjusted the clutch cable and went for a test ride to see if I put it all together and maybe it would go away, WRONG

I dunno what the problem is guys, I need your help.

With the clutch out, the noise is completely gone in nuetral, but when I press it in, instantly sounds like small stone in a large can moving around.

Then you start driving and it gets louder, until you get up to about 50 or so in 4th and I can cruise without hearing it at all.

The bearing did seem sot when I pulled it out, put the new one in perfect and it was brand new, but the problem is still there.

I can also hear a small knock everytime my engine revs up (has an irratic idle 800-1300 rpm) and on first run up, there is a small knock, very light knock

HELP, I really thought I had it nailed and I could give my car a little love this week

Help</TD></TR></TABLE>

You actually listened to some of the people on this board? Come on, some people on this board don't even know where the transmission is located. I can tell you this, the problem you described up above, sounds nothing like the throw out bearing. It sounds like the input bearing on your trans is messed up. Next time watch out on who you listen to on these boards, some people know a lot while others no jack **** and will shot gun the problem, meaning some people just replace the part not knowing if it will fix the problem or not. A customer can come in with a bad miss, I could put $500 worth of new parts on hoping that 1 of the parts will fix the problem but if it doesn't, do you think the customer would be happy about spending $500 on something that did not help ? Like I said before in your other post, feel free to IM me and I'll help you out.

xsvfun

I'd be more worried about this:

"I can also hear a small knock everytime my engine revs up (has an irratic idle 800-1300 rpm) and on first run up, there is a small knock, very light knock"

I just dealt with a stock Si motor with that same issue. On startup had a quick knocking and when at idle was quiet. Then when you first give the motor some revs you hear a quick knocking again before it quiets.

Ended up being the crank end bearings on the #2 and #4 rods had some serious play. Of course being a Honda motor they tend to continue to run for a bit even like that.

Sounds like you have an entire drivetrain that has seen some pain.

Throwing too many more repairs at that setup might not be to your advantage.

Jake