Malgerus

I went out to the strip last night, not expecting too much. I had some shifting issues last year; I couldn't get into 2nd or 3rd at high RPM, and I had had some fueling and timing issues with my BIN last time that slowed me down quite a bit. Last week, my friend took a look at the clutch, and it turns out that it wasn't fully engaging. He tightened up the cable until there was like no free play left, and I decided that I could go race since it shifted beautifully. I also played around with the fuel and timing in the BIN, and it seemed to wake the engine right up.

I went to the track with my 88 hatch. It has:

JDM 5 million B16A, JDM S1 transmission
OBD-I with Uberdata (8600 Rev limit)
00 Si cams
USDM 97 ITR manifold (not header style)
3" Generic Intake with K&N, 2.25 crush bent exhaust with Magnaflow muffler and testpipe
ACT Heavy Duty PP and street disc (want a 6 puck now)
15" worn out Toyo proxes in the front, CRX sawblades out back - 20 psi in the front.

I gutted the rear interior, took out the passenger seat.

First pass:

R/T... .450 (perfect is a .000 at this track, I was out of practice)
60' ... 2.309
330 ... 6.230
1/8 ... 9.426
MPH ... (N/A, clock was screwed up)
1000 ... 12.148
1/4 ... 14.456
MPH ... 97.93

I then hit a 14.3, and a 14.4 with this configuration. I then decided to tinker with the car.

On an impulse, I pulled the hood. The first pass like this was ok, I hit a 14.3, but I had let off a bit at the finish line. I also didn't get a timeslip

However, I didn't want to give up. I got one last pass, and I was rewarded with:

R/T ... .326
60' ... 2.368 (awful, spun too much)
330 ... 6.192
1/8 ... 9.335 (slow, have done 9.2's)
MPH ... 79.27 (fastest 1/8 MPH yet)
1000 ... 12.018
1/4 ... 14.301
MPH ... 99.04!

I couldn't believe I hit 99 MPH! For this pass I tried shifting at 8400-8500 RPM. It was the last pass of the night. I know the car had a 14.2 or even a 14.1 in it. Too much spin off the line. But on the last pass it pulled like a ****, I even chirped 4th with my shitty clutch

All in all a good night!


Modified by Mr. S at 11:47 PM 5/21/2005

BCrawford

Sounds like fun. I just got into SCCA Autocrossing. Very Addictive! On another note, it's no good to drive around with no freeplay on your clutch. Might end up not fully engaging and putting premature wear on your clutch.

Malgerus

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BCrawford &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like fun. I just got into SCCA Autocrossing. Very Addictive! On another note, it's no good to drive around with no freeplay on your clutch. Might end up not fully engaging and putting premature wear on your clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, it doesn't engage at high rpm otherwise. The engament point is very high on the clutch pedal. I know the disc is pretty much shot by now, but I am hoping the PP is ok. I want to put in a 6 puck with a sprung hub one of these days.

dr_latino999

Your cable could be stretched, and to negate cable slack just stop the bushing at the bottom of it from compressing with a radiator hose clamp

Chronic_SMOKE

what rpm did you take off at??

Malgerus

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your cable could be stretched, and to negate cable slack just stop the bushing at the bottom of it from compressing with a radiator hose clamp </TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks for the tip! I've seen that thread before, but I've never got around to trying it. I guess it's worth a shot!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chronic_SMOKE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> what rpm did you take off at?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I have my FTL (full throttle launch) set at 4000 RPM. I keep using the same launch to try and get consistency. I had the tires set at 20 psi, and I held it at 4000 very lightly. When I saw amber, I tried to let the clutch out, not dump it, to minimize spin. Unfortunately, on my 99 mph pass I was a little too eager off the line, and spun too much.

FalkenSiR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
60' ... 2.368 (awful, spun too much)
1/4 ... 14.301
MPH ... 99.04! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Awesome time

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dr_latino999 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your cable could be stretched, and to negate cable slack just stop the bushing at the bottom of it from compressing with a radiator hose clamp </TD></TR></TABLE>
Does anyone have anymore info on this?

raene

Let's tune it up a bit more and get 100mph out of this bad boy

Malgerus

Yeah, may try playing with the mid range a bit more, though honestly I think it's traction that's holding me back.

michael O

THose are really good times. Nice job.

goforbroke

This kind of thread lets me know something is wrong with my b16 because I don't trap anywhere near you and I have a 88std with no rear interior also, with similar mods. Good job though

EP3_05

Nice times. I was trapping 94mph when I ran a 14.8 in my sedan. Get some slicks and see if you can get close to high 13's.

raene

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nice times. I was trapping 94mph when I ran a 14.8 in my sedan. Get some slicks and see if you can get close to high 13's. </TD></TR></TABLE>



I'll try and convince him to borrow mine this Friday

Malgerus

Hey everyone, went to the track again!

New times:

R/T... .314
60' ... 2.255
330 ... 6.043
1/8 ... 9.160 (best ever )
MPH ... 79.60
1000 ... 11.837
1/4 ... 14.116
MPH ... 99.17

and

R/T... .257
60' ... 2.261
330 ... 6.080
1/8 ... 9.204
MPH ... 79.58
1000 ... 11.877
1/4 ... 14.147
MPH ... 99.41

Came so close to 100 mph! I also hit 80 mph in the 1/8 on one of my last passes. The track was so sticky. I was hooking up too well and bogging on my first passes enroute to 14.5's. I raised my full throttle launch to 5000 rpm and it made all the difference in the world!

Here are some pics:




I may even be able to post a few vids as soon as I get them on my comp!




Modified by Mr. S at 10:58 PM 5/8/2005

GSRCRXsi

what trim is your crx? HF?

Malgerus

It's an 88 hatchback... Canadian equivalent to the US STD.

96-EJ6 B18C

Nice runs man, that is hauling *** for a stock B16

Malgerus

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Thanks man

MugenHonda

I would expect better, I have hit 14 flat on a b16 eg hatch with azenis.
I bet sea level was a factor

raene

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MugenHonda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would expect better, I have hit 14 flat on a b16 eg hatch with azenis.
I bet sea level was a factor</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, 0.1s slower than you, he's really off the ball

LSVTEC 91 Civic

Drop that 60 to 2.0 and you'll be in 13's

Must be a blessed B16

HamiltonRex

so since my traps were around 97mph, and i was only hitting 14.7's. My traps were good, meaning i can go faster.. but i need traction, Correct? Because the track was so slick and oily no one was getting anytraction, and built V8's on slicks were pulling 2.0 60ft's.

PaImportTuner

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I went to the track with my 88 hatch. It has:

JDM 5 million B16A, JDM S1 transmission
OBD-I with Uberdata (8600 Rev limit)
00 Si cams
USDM 97 ITR manifold (not header style)
3" Generic Intake with K&N, 2.25 crush bent exhaust with Magnaflow muffler and testpipe
ACT Heavy Duty PP and street disc (want a 6 puck now)
15" worn out Toyo proxes in the front, CRX sawblades out back - 20 psi in the front.

I gutted the rear interior, took out the passenger seat.

R/T... .314
60' ... 2.255
330 ... 6.043
1/8 ... 9.160 (best ever )
MPH ... 79.60
1000 ... 11.837
1/4 ... 14.116
MPH ... 99.17

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Comparison
90 CRX DX

JDM 1 million B16A, JDM S1 transmission
OBD0 chipped pr3 4500vtec 8500rev
stock cams
stock exhaust manifold 2 o2
stock intake, thermal classic exhaust and testpipe
walbro fuel pump and adjustable fpr
195/60/14 yokohama street tires. @ 30psi

both seats in, no back cargo crap, blown rear tokicos.

r/t.. .513
60'.. 2.316
330.. 6.261
1/8.. 9.527
MPH.. 76.00
1000.. 12.322
1/4.. 14.702
MPH.. 94.39


when i had unblown rear shocks, jdm 4-1 and CAI i was running 14.2

Malgerus

Good time!

I'm running on stock shocks all around

I really need to get some stiff rear shocks. Whole car squats when I shift. I bet a good header would do wonders too!

LSVTEC 91 Civic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. S &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good time!

I'm running on stock shocks all around

I really need to get some stiff rear shocks. Whole car squats when I shift. I bet a good header would do wonders too!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Go to Autozone and buy a set of rubber spring inserts, you'd be suprised how well they work.