slooogsr

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicDXdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">y0! mY JDM V-tECH 1.5 runs a 14.1@99 and thats in 99 degree heat, slipping *** clutch, 105/80/13s, HF tranny, stock HF exhaust, and a custom hot air intake that i put the filter right above the manifold so it gets maximum hot air.

seriously, why even get a b16 or b18c when you can just get a d16a6 or a zc or something.. since they all run the same times.


im sorry dude, i mean b series motors are nice and all if you have the money........... but me i had no money when i decided to swap.......... went with the zc and im happy with it......... not to mention i saved alot of money (nearly 1g) which im puttin towards a turbo setup, id like to see b16 swap keep up with a boosted zc........

dont get me wrong, i wish i had the money at the time to swap a bigger motor and i would have........ prolly would have gone with a b18a and turbo'd that.......

this board has too many bullshitters..
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91civicDXdude

i was being sarcastic in the fact that people say their stock crx si runs the same times as some people's b16s, and other BULLSHIT like that.

Im starting to think that some parts of the country must have a 1220 1/4 mile or something.. lol

TheBestCRX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicDXdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">y0! mY JDM V-tECH 1.5 runs a 14.1@99 and thats in 99 degree heat, slipping *** clutch, 105/80/13s, HF tranny, stock HF exhaust, and a custom hot air intake that i put the filter right above the manifold so it gets maximum hot air.

seriously, why even get a b16 or b18c when you can just get a d16a6 or a zc or something.. since they all run the same times.

this board has too many bullshitters..
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this is by far the best post in this dumbass thread.

therealciviczc

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicDXdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">y0! mY JDM V-tECH 1.5 runs a 14.1@99 and thats in 99 degree heat, slipping *** clutch, 105/80/13s, HF tranny, stock HF exhaust, and a custom hot air intake that i put the filter right above the manifold so it gets maximum hot air.

seriously, why even get a b16 or b18c when you can just get a d16a6 or a zc or something.. since they all run the same times.

this board has too many bullshitters..</TD></TR></TABLE>

With comments like that, and this....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicDXdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock b16s will run high 14s.. i doubt your tired old d series will run low low 15s.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I comes across as though you may be pissed that a tired old d series can beat your B18. Just about any Civic or CRX with less than 4 doors and a ZC will run mid to low 15s where I come from. Call bullshit all day long, the fact still remains that I can go to the track on any given day in a ZC powered civic and click off at the very very worst a 15.5 my first time out and probably much better than that with a few attempts. I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 mid to low 15 second timeslips and that's in an Si hatch which is way heavier than some of the cars people in this thread are driving. There might be 1 or 2 bullshitters, but to imply that the a ZC won't run low 15s and occasionally high 14s in an HF is wrong.

Hybrid Invasion

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by therealciviczc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


It wasn't so much that you spoke up, it was that you called him a flat out liar and made a deal over something that is possible.

Maybe you go to a slow track? My boosted ZC runs 14.0s and 14.1s at various tracks and that's with my shitty tires, worn bushing, and extreme wheel hop, and a psudo half assed setup (FMU, etc)... and yes I have timeslips somewhere. Boosted ZCs in a CRX should easily be in the 13s, not mid 14s.

I suppose the 90-100 degree temps in Florida make for different times than 70s and 80s in Ohio. </TD></TR></TABLE>no, thats EXACTLY my point that your BOOSTED ZC still runs 14's and these people are saying their NA ZC is running in the 14's. I can't be the only one that's picking up on that.

EARLdaSQUIRREL

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hybrid Invasion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, thats EXACTLY my point that your BOOSTED ZC still runs 14's and these people are saying their NA ZC is running in the 14's. I can't be the only one that's picking up on that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

he also states he has shitty tires, worn bushings, half assed turbo setup and some pretty bad wheel hop, get rid of those problems, a nice set of drag radials and he is in the low 13's no problem imo

Hybrid Invasion

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coptzer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

he also states he has shitty tires, worn bushings, half assed turbo setup and some pretty bad wheel hop, get rid of those problems, a nice set of drag radials and he is in the low 13's no problem imo</TD></TR></TABLE>lol alrighty. Have fun doing that.

CimorelliCRX

Im sure you guys are gonna say this is bullshit, but others on the board seen this run, 14.5, OBD1 Z6, 50 shot, IHE, thats it. 9.4 1/8th and bad 60 foot. 2.4

ghonaherpalitis

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90CRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, what ECU were you guys using? Si? Teg? ZC? See the variables you deal with? I believe a ZC can run high 14's and maybe even mids with a good driver just as much as i belive a B16 can run mid 14's and low 14's with a good driver. But there are a lot of variables to consider.

(Please someone ask why the ECU would matter. Seems to be the way this post is going.)</TD></TR></TABLE>

ya...actually, i wanna know what ecu is being used

raene

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CimorelliCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im sure you guys are gonna say this is bullshit, but others on the board seen this run, 14.5, OBD1 Z6, 50 shot, IHE, thats it. 9.4 1/8th and bad 60 foot. 2.4</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why is that BS? That's slow IMO I'm running faster than that N/A... though you could hardly call my setup "allmotor" unless you consider GSR cams and boltons allmotor

jaydmcrx

I ran 15.4 @ 89 with just intake and crap exhaust on road huggers. Good times guys

Bluelight

I would get so blasted out of this thread if I started posting my times with my old unopened ZC. Reason why I don't post on HT anymore... sad.

CimorelliCRX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raene &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why is that BS? That's slow IMO I'm running faster than that N/A... though you could hardly call my setup "allmotor" unless you consider GSR cams and boltons allmotor </TD></TR></TABLE>

We had a big debate a while ago about this car running a 9.6 with all motor, no nitrous, in the 1/8th, and no body beleived, it, we ran a 9.4, shitty 60 foot, and 14.5 wth nitrous, but everyone claims that z6 with obd1 runs 15.5 with ihe, not low 15s, and we can hit a better time than 14.5, but i couldnt get a good 60 foot. 14.5 @ 97 mph.

raene

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bluelight &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would get so blasted out of this thread if I started posting my times with my old unopened ZC. Reason why I don't post on HT anymore... sad.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You should post them... truth should surface on this board once or twice See what times these cars can pull with people that can drive very well.

Whatever times Bluelight posts, I fully vouch for him...

CimorelliCRX, I believe Mr. S ran 15.1 with his old OBDI D16Y8 in his CRX Si with just I/E. Whatever, it was low 15s.

Malgerus

I ran a 15.2 with my old CRX.

This thread is getting just plain stupid. Of course times are going to vary! Some tracks have poor conditions, others are 10 feet above sea level. There is so much variation in the engines, tires, suspension, and ESPECIALLY the driver! Anyone who says otherwise doesn't know what they're talking about. Some engines are strong, some are weak. Some are freaks.

91civicDXdude

Its not that i doubt a low 15 second d series, its the fact that i doubt the posts like "i ran a 15.1 in my stock d16a6 on a slipping *** clutch, a 2.5 60', in 90 degree heat, and spun all the way through first and second" bullshit. if that were the case, a d16a6 could run a 14.0 in ideal conditions.

atleast im not afraid to post up my timeslips, and a 15.5 isnt bad considering a 2.4 60'. traction doesnt come well on 175/70/13 with an LS. Had i had a coule more runs when the sun went down, (track was packed), and possibly some better tires or a little tinkering, i could've pulled a 15.3 or so...The SOHC VTEC is about equal to an LS, considering the LS has more torque but is heavier, this is why i mention that SOHC VTEC should run about a 15.4-15.6, somewhere in that range. Of course there will always be the engine with little miles (my LS had 140k, a hard life before I got it), in a light car, and THAT is what makes the difference. all this bullshit about "OH I CAN DRIVE" is pure bullshit. I dont give a **** if you're Stephan Papadakis, a car has its limits and being a "good driver" isnt going to surpass them.

All im saying is when you post up rediculous times (or even believeable ones) post up a picture of your timeslip, provided you dont just rip it off from some other guy who was honest and posted his, which i have seen done.

Be honest. And BTW, the comment about a d series beating my LS, i wouldn't doubt it. Thats the reason i got rid of the LS and im currently building a Hybrid D16 turbo setup. Torque doesnt win races, it loses races, just as the LS loses top end because of the lack of horsepower.

D16 for life.

B18A1 1/4 mile (on the right, a friends I/E ZC 89 CRX SI on the left)


D16Z6 1/8 mile (notice how very similar they are..)

Hybrid Invasion

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicDXdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18A1 1/4 mile (on the right, a friends I/E ZC 89 CRX SI on the left)


D16Z6 1/8 mile (notice how very similar they are..)
</TD></TR></TABLE>dude, theres something wrong with that kids B16 if he ran a 15.5 @ 88mph. Even when I had traction issues and ran a 15.5 with my B16 one of my first times ever out on the track, my trap was still 92 and change.

91civicDXdude

what the hell are you talking about, there are no B16s on there. my B18A1 is on the right, and my friends ZC is on the left.

92mph for 15.5 is very high.

Hybrid Invasion

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicDXdude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what the hell are you talking about, there are no B16s on there. my B18A1 is on the right, and my friends ZC is on the left.

92mph for 15.5 is very high.</TD></TR></TABLE>my bad, i misread what you said the time on the right was....sorry.
Yeah, I know 92 is high for a 15.5; i thought the exact same thing when I ran, however I had traction issues for most of the night, so i'm pretty sure that it's my launch that I was losing time from. Not to mention the fact that i'm running on stock suspension, street tires, and the run was in 90 degree weather. Florida is pretty humid around the time I ran(****, it's humid pretty much all the time). If I had a digicam, I would take a pic of the timeslip so maybe you could help make sense of it, but i'm pretty sure i'm losing my time on the launch, because once it hooks up, obviously my trapspeed is indicative of a lower time.

91civicEX

my friend's sister's boyfriend's cousin's stepbrother has a civic wagon that runs 15 flat with a stock engine. he took out the backseat though so thats probably why


YO

Hybrid Invasion

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91civicLX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my friend's sister's boyfriend's cousin's stepbrother has a civic wagon that runs 15 flat with a stock engine. he took out the backseat though so thats probably why


YO</TD></TR></TABLE>if you have no point, don't post. Thanks.