DXHatch91

I have a .70 trim turbo that a friend of mine wants to see if we can put it in my 91 ef hatch. Down the road I plan on going with a b18b1 non vtcec swap and my questions are 1.where can I find the right kit to make the turbo fit, 2.what kind of work will I (or a machine shop) have to do to make the motor and car itself handle the turbo, and is 200 bucks for this particular turbo a good price my step dads good friend works at a turbo shop and took it apart and said it was in great shape too.

P.s it says masterpower .70 on it im wondering what brand that is any help
much appreciated. Thanks.

broke88rex

Ebay turbo. Itll work well as long as you take care of it. and you will need a fully built motor to handle a 70 trim. prob sleeved block. forged internals. and the kit will probably have to be custom fabricated.

DXHatch91

Ok thanks so where can i find the sleeves or get everything fabricated and fully built?

broke88rex

Local engine builder shop can usually sleeve your block. Eagle is a good brand for forged engine parts.

stowne78

Lol that depends on the tuning, how much power is desired/goals for the build. You definently DO NoT have to spend thousands on building up the block unless serious power is desired. Stock blocks can easily handle around 300hp on a good tune, and more power on great tunes. If we knew what your goals were it would help a lot. And btw if you want to go turbo, non-vtec is a bad idea

Randysi

Why do you say non-vtec is a bad idea?

sstupid

This sounds like a lot of trouble to go through just because you're getting a good deal on a cheap turbo. Spend the money for a turbo that already has a kit made for it, and I bet you end up spending less in the long run. Custom fab work is expensive.

DXHatch91

Im only planning on anywhere between 275-300hp on a fun dd and the reason for non vtec is ive seen alot on here ppl saying non vtec motors have higher compression for boost and its harder to tune vtec and turbo together but any tips or suggestions are more than welcome.

Randysi

My comment was directed toward stowne78 lol

DXHatch91

I know i was just putting it out there for who ever lol i figured id be more clear on everything but do you think non vtec would be better im only looking for 300 hp tops and would the stock internals be ok for that with this particular turbo on there?

stowne78

Yes stock internals will be fine. And non-vtec is a bad idea bc when turbo'd the longer you are in full boost in each gear the better, so with an ls you have to shift too quick. From my experiences, turbo'd ls sucked compared to turbo'd vtec head

DXHatch91

True but even if i only want 300hp tops in a dd? Also what exactly does ls stand for and mean sry if that sounds dumb.

Randysi

Well if you were really making power, the ls tranny would be the better choice I assume. You would stay at full boost longer in that gear. since the ls tranny has longer gears. Dont hate me if im wrong. lol.

DXHatch91

Now im confused lol im actually debating between a b18c1 vtec and b18b1 non vtec with b%st in mind. I only want to get 300hp so at first i decided on the B1 because its cheaper to get and I heard getting turbo and vtec tuned proper is alot of work and money. So which would be better in general the C1 or B1 with my goals in mind
(300hp boosted daily driver)?

Randysi

Go with the gsr. It has vtec

DXHatch91

Ya im kinda leanin on that side now that im getting the diff opinions but wat about lsvtec swap maybe b16 head on b18a1 block? Idk just throwing it out there. I do really like the gsr swap idea too with tha turbo.

Randysi

Its really whatever you want to do. If you dont want to work with the internals or pull a head and tap it and all that good stuff, go with the complete gsr. If you want to build your own then go lsv! They are pretty bad ***. seams like more people are doing lsv more than normal swaps now days.

Randysi

normal swaps as in like gsr or type r or b16. lol.

DXHatch91

I think if i wanted a great track car id def go lsv but all i want is a really fun daily driver boosted so i think a normal gsr swap would be perfect for me i found one at this link but im wondering if its everything or a good price
http://www.jdmtigerjapanese.com/b18c...smission.html#

broke88rex

Look. You dont "need" vtec to have a turbo. Things that are good for turbo are low compression and long gears. Low compression keeps you from blowing up your damn engine after you slap the turbo on and go for a shake down. Long gears keep you in boost longer..making your car faster. The reason i said you needed a built engine is that a 70 trim turbo is pretty big. A little *** 1.5 or 1.6 isnt going to spool that very easy. Thus you need some more displacement to push the turbo or else you wont spool untill like 5500 and thats no fun. If you want to go turbo, find one to match your engine, get it in a kit, and have it tuned properly by a professional. Thats the best and cheapest route to go in the long run

DXHatch91

True that ill look into all the diff turbos and kits and see what i can find. But do you think the non vtec motor would be better to go with, and which motor has the longer gears and higher comp.

crvtectim

Man, op, you have much reading to do over in the Forced Induction forum. For the record, longer gears will only slow you down. 300whp is easily attained with ANY healthy, bone stock B-Series motor with boost, vtec or non, doesn't matter. For a fun street car on pump gas, you want a turbo that's responsive with a good powerband. There's many to choose from. I advise you stay away from ebay. goautowerks has complete bolt-on kits for B-swaps in EFs. Check them out. Tiger is hard to beat on their prices. I've had good luck with them also, but have heard of others that didn't.

DXHatch91

K thats what ive been waiting to hear ill def check out that website and i think i want to stick with the gsr ive heard it does have shorter gears than the other trannys like ls and the b16's and is a great motor in general

DXHatch91

Is revhard a good turbo kit and/or company to go with???

crvtectim

Links for you: https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/%2A%2A%2Aforced-induction-forum-faq%2A%2A%2A-1024174/

http://www.go-autoworks-store.com/gocotuki.html