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Old 03-25-2015, 05:53 AM
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I think anyone coming on here and bashing this guys build is ridiculous... but i'm gonna eat my popcorn and read this rant about what he thinks is right.
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chrysler kid is clearly a Civic HX aficionado and became overly emotional about the OP modifying a rare Civic. I think he's said his piece now, and will move on to avoid taking this thread as a personal affront to his value system.
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chrysler kid is clearly a Civic HX aficionado and became overly emotional about the OP modifying a rare Civic. I think he's said his piece now, and will move on to avoid taking this thread as a personal affront to his value system.
Yeah I was extremely harsh on the OP. I made personal insults but he kept his responses civil. He has my respect and was the bigger person.

Thank you for your patience and not turning it into a flame post, again I was extremely hard on you about this because the hx is in my opinion one of the most effecient vehcles honda has ever made.

Good luck on your build. I do like that you found a clean turbo kit that retains the a/c system and that you raised the vehicle from being slammed out. Please keep in mind the hx has a unique head, unique gearing in the transmissiom, and a unique ecu. I encourage you to keep those parts as they are rare and can eventually be valuable

The front lip I'm 50/50 on. With the sir lip I would also paint the side skirts silver and the door moulding silver. Otherwise the front bumper looks out of place on the black molding. I tend to like the black on silver theme and the cheap ebay lips in my opinion help balance the front with the black trim on the side

Thank you for your patience

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lol. Things definitely got a lil heated. I do like what you did with the Remote Starter though. What brand alarm/remote starter system did you go with?
Old 03-25-2015, 02:48 PM
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Thanks for the support, guys.

I didn't want to veer the focus of the thread to be anything other than the car.

The remote start/alarm system is a DEI Viper product with the upgraded AUTOSTART rubber coated remote since I'm fairly rough on my keys (always picking them up with dirty hands and leaving them places I forget).
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Thanks for that info! I've been debating on weather or not I should purchase an remote starter my self. It's freezing over here in Cleveleand. Good luck on the build.
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Thanks for that info! I've been debating on weather or not I should purchase an remote starter my self. It's freezing over here in Cleveleand. Good luck on the build.
Any DEI product will do you well.

I use my remote start every single day in Chicago weather.

It's even nice in the summer because I can start the car and have my A/C set and be nice and cool by the time I get in it.

If you do decide to get one I can help you out with any questions you might have on the install portion.
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Compustar works fine.
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Back to me ruining my car!

So I started to slowly install all the parts I had bought to ready the car for fun turbo things to happen in the near future.

I noticed that my clutch master was leaking on the inside of the firewall, so I ordered it and swapped it out along with the braided stainless steel line and fittings.








Drove great for two days, until suddenly on my way to work in the morning my clutch felt really weird.

I was at a light taking a left turn onto a main road, when I felt a crunch on the pedal.
Went into gear, but when I went to shift into second the pedal went all the way to the floor and stayed there.

Luckily I was able to pull into a nearby McDonalds and found a parking spot without much trouble.
I popped my hood, checked my clutch fluid reservoir, and it had all turned into super thick gel. GREAT.

Called backup to get me to work on time, and left the car there for the time being. Talked to a local tow company that gives us deals because we're a neighboring shop, and had my car towed in.

Sucked all the fluid out and flushed the lines, filled it back up, but it wouldn't bleed.

Took off my TWO DAY OLD master, and found this:


Awesome.

Got the part guaranteed out, but had to eat the tow bill which really sucked.

Goes to show that you should always buy OEM parts (I usually do, but the OEM clutch masters have leaked on EVERY SINGLE CIVIC that I've ever owned).
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After all that mess was taken care of, I started getting into the valvetrain.

Decided I would upgrade the springs and retainers without taking the head off as my compression was perfect across the board.

Bought myself some industrial grade rope, and got to work the old school way.

The idea is to take off the spark plus, feed rope into the cylinder, turn the engine over until it "locks" and that way the valves are held up when the springs are taken off.

Took my driver side wheel to get to my crank pulley and found this...good thing all my wheel well liners are still in place...





This is a pretty terrible picture (remember, potato!) but I was surprised with how clean everything was under there with the car having over 145k miles on it.




All torn up and ready for the upgrades




Rope in, valves held up




New Supertech seals in place




All the new valvetrain in place and looking pretty




Rockers cleaned up and back in place




And I got these little things to clean up the look of the bay a bit.
They'll look a lot nicer once my valve cover is powder coated.






And last but not least, a picture of her getting back together with the shop Evo (aka lift queen) in the background

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For the record, I don't think anyone wants to polish a turd. Thats disgusting...

Nice work btw on the upgrades. Keep em coming.
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For the record, I don't think anyone wants to polish a turd. Thats disgusting...
Haha...but coprolites.
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I sold my y5 out of my hx a couple years back for 850 with ecu linkage etc

I didnt get 50mpg with it tho. Thats just cray
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Keep up the good work man, and don't worry about anyone's negative comments, last time I checked you paid for your car and can do whatever you want to it. Cant wait to see it all done with the turbo setup on it.
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Originally Posted by tony_2018
For the record, I don't think anyone wants to polish a turd. Thats disgusting...

Nice work btw on the upgrades. Keep em coming.
Haha, the title has to do with me working on things such as Evos, Supras, STI's and things of that nature all the time and then getting in my Civic to home.

I'm currently prepping a Datsun 280 for some SCCA events.

My car against those is a pretty big turd.


Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Haha...but coprolites.
I don't even know how you knew that was a thing...(googled it)


Originally Posted by turbohatch96y7
I sold my y5 out of my hx a couple years back for 850 with ecu linkage etc

I didnt get 50mpg with it tho. Thats just cray
That's good money! No one around here cares about these setups to pay that much.

Hell, I couldn't even get $2,000 for my full K20A2 swap.


Originally Posted by ek9kbomb'd
Keep up the good work man, and don't worry about anyone's negative comments, last time I checked you paid for your car and can do whatever you want to it. Cant wait to see it all done with the turbo setup on it.
Thanks man! Hopefully the turbo setup will be on sooner than later. Would really like to have it on and dialed in by the time our shop does the track event at Madison Speedway which is July 12th.
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The motor and tranny are only worth what the market wants and unfortunately civic parts are hard to sell because the people who own them only drive them as basic transportation.

A coworker has a pretty clean 98 ex and doesn't know when the timing belt was changed last and doesn't care. The $650 it would cost him at a shop is what he figures is half of the cars value, so again most civics are headed to the dumpster in the sky because their resale value is next to nothing these days

All it takes is a good surge in gas prices and the civic market will get hot again.

Best of luck
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Sold the green wheels! Picking up something cool this weekend, along with other fun updates!
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Nice build, not the biggest fan of your HX platform but thats not my choice to make. I really enjoy sleeper builds tho so keep it comin'
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Nice build, not the biggest fan of your HX platform but thats not my choice to make. I really enjoy sleeper builds tho so keep it comin'
Thanks! I wish she were an EX model, really miss having a sunroof at times. But I will make do with what I've got.
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Are the tweeters plug and play across the board? How much of a sound difference is it?
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Are the tweeters plug and play across the board? How much of a sound difference is it?
They were a straight plug and play deal on my car, but I don't know if it would be the same on vehicles that did not come factory equipped with power doors.

They do make a difference, but it isn't huge.

I'm planning on upgrading my sound system all around on this thing, so it isn't a huge deal to me.
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Cool, thinking of grabbing some for my 98 LX sedan. Power everything.
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Cool, thinking of grabbing some for my 98 LX sedan. Power everything.
Then yeah, it should be a straight plug and play for your application.
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Also, I did a thing last night.

Really gotta find some time to update you guys on everything I've been doing to it lately.


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I got that mileage without even trying out of my last Y7 and I could really care less about the Y5 and it's lean burn.
It's a bore to drive as is and what I want in a car is something economical and entertaining.
Let me guess, now you're gonna ask why I even got an HX then instead of an EX or something else?
Because I got a great deal on this on it's a decently clean car, something rare in the area I live in.
Yes, the wheels are green. Big deal. The main reason I got them (besides the great price point) is for the tires. They have matching Falken 912's on them in good condition unlike all the other sets of wheels nearby that have mismatched or no name tires.
I don't see a fart can or stickers on my car, hell, notice that I took off the banner and stickers that the car had on it when I originally bought it.
I lifted it because I didn't like how low it was when I got it.
And I replaced the entire exhaust system because it was leaking and rusted throughout.
I assure you that there's a method to my madness, and that every little thing that goes into the car is premeditated.
If you don't agree with what I'm doing to my car, that's too bad.
I'm doing what I want to do with it to suit my wants/needs.
Who cares what that guy thinks, he just needs a girlfriend. Anyways, keep up the build and do it YOUR way.... not some idiot who's cornflakes are always getting pissed on every morning by a magical gnome that has a vendetta against him.


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