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Old 03-10-2006, 12:49 PM
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Default Wheres my oil going?

<U>Whats Wrong</U>
-Black Smoke
-Black crap comming out exhaust
-Loosing 1 qt of oil a week


<U>Checked</U>
-Replaced valve seals with new ones
-Check compression 189 for all four cylinders
-Oil pan has minor drips, normal drips from plug

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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (McGeeTM)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by McGeeTM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><U>Whats Wrong</U>
-Black Smoke
-Black crap comming out exhaust

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Black smoke = fuel. Black crap in exhaust is from carbon.

As to where the oil is going, I would run a leakdown. I'm not sure what you'll find since your compression is good. But I don't know of any car with 'normal' oil drips.


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normal oil drips..lol just say im fixing it, the bolt is a lil loose so it has the little drip from it, also im gunna take a pic of this hose that isnt connected to anything, its next to a black canaster(on firewall,kinda to the passenger side)
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (McGeeTM)

running rich too
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (McGeeTM)

Yes man, the black smoke is too much gas. May be you should check the O2 sensor, when they are bad they make the ECU that the car too lean so the ECU send more fuel to the engine. Remember that the FUEL is also to cold the engine emission, when the emission is too hot the O2 sent the info to the ECU to put more fuel, and if the O2 is too cold it means that is too rich so the ECU sent the order to put less fuel.
Now about the oil I think that propably you have a leak or with the smoke also. I suggest to check the VALVE GUIDES...
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (McGeeTM)

heres the hose

it connect to the car along with another hose that connects to the connector, so im thinking its runnin somewhere to the back of car
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (Leviata-N)

brand new valve seals, band new head.... old head did same thing
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (McGeeTM)

change gasket on the motor but its your piston rings are shot. how many miles on the car?
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (theSkippy)

gasket is brand new, only bout 1000 miles on it,

piston rings are good, compression ran 189psi
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (theSkippy)

100k on block, 120k on head

replaced engine(d series )
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any1?
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (McGeeTM)

That picture looks like your PCV not being connected. Is that the black box that is attached to the block?
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (jklobo)

the hose is connected to a connector that has another hose connected to it, the other hose goes underneath the black canister, but this hose goes into firewall and somewhere
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (McGeeTM)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by McGeeTM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the hose is connected to a connector that has another hose connected to it, the other hose goes underneath the black canister, but this hose goes into firewall and somewhere</TD></TR></TABLE>

what?

There should be a hose coming off the block to the PCV, then one to the intake manifold. Then the valve cover should be vented, either with a breather or connected to the intake. Hope that helps as far as the emission stuff goes.
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (fast88std)

You can have good compression (Compression rings) while still burning oil (Oil Rings).

But the little drip may be your problem. Remember that when oil gets warm, it gets thinner, so a little drip when the engine is cold makes for a bigger drip when it is warm. Stop all leaks, then see if you are still loosing oil. Also, pay attention (With a friend) if you are puffing any blue smoke at startup and under hard acceleration. If at start up, you have a leaky valve seal, at hard acceleration, you have a warn guide. If all the time, you have a bad ring. That's the general rule of thumb to give you a starting point when trying to determine the cause of oil burning.
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (Cuda70)

Your hose has something to do with the fuel system.
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (Cuda70)

I burn a quart every 100 miles, but I have 195K on this beat cx motor.
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (AutoXer)

pull the pcv valve and check for blow by.
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (tayhas)

ill check everything today, then let yall know.. it smokes black when i go over 4k rpm
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (McGeeTM)

piston rings r bad minu used to smoke real bad when I hit vtec...I put new rings n and no smoke
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (hondachris1994)

c if ur blowing oil out of the valvecover hole that goes to the intake if u r its deffinatelly rings
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (Cuda70)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cuda70 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can have good compression (Compression rings) while still burning oil (Oil Rings).

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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (McGeeTM)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by McGeeTM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><U>Whats Wrong</U>
-Black Smoke
-Black crap comming out exhaust
-Loosing 1 qt of oil a week

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i have the same problem.
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (EK tommy)

You guys need to fix your cars. First of all the black smoke and the oil burning are 2 different problems. Do you have a check engine light on? Your motor isnt running right and figure that out first.
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Default Re: Wheres my oil going? (JeffBro)

JeffBro: no check engine light, yeah motor like "hops" when driving in 2nd gear after 4k.. then it lets smoke out and then goes fast after 5k

hondachris1994: i have a hose that connect to my intake their, so i dont see any oil, but ill take hose of tommmorow and check


replaced pvc valve today, still nothing but then again i need to wait on that..lol


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