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Old 07-06-2006, 01:23 PM
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Yo... wuts up everyone, hoping someone can 'shine some light' on this problem im having. I'm out here in central cali dieing in this heat. I've got an eg2 with type r swap. It's got some leather seats in here... which makes it insanely hot. So $400.00 and mix matched parts, i have an air conditioner finally. A/c Was charge and blows ice cold. A/c Fan works like a champ, And My radiator Fan works as well. But to my problem..... When i'm idling, and a/c is on level 1, it starts to get a little hot and increases slowly, any higher and my car starts to over heat. I've never had a problem with my type r overheating until now. So what I noticed, is that after i popped my hood, and let me car idle, and i noticed it started to get hot, my a/c fan stays on, but my radiator fan turns off!! And from what i've heard is that the radiator fan should never turn off while the a/c is going. While im driving, i could have the a/c up to level 4, blowing ice cold... but if i stop and idle for more than a minute my temperature jumps right up and starts over heating. So my fan isnt staying on for as long as it should, or as long as it needs to... so is there something from the condendsor that i wired up incorrectly that isnt telling the ecu to keep the fan on... or is there another way around this... i would prefer not to have to wire up the radiator to a switch, im not a fan of rigging crap or **** that isn't oem, i just want my car to run good and last, knowing its put together right so i dont have to keep guessing around about what the problem is... so recap... car never over heats without a/c, turn on a/c while driving full blast and it doesnt over heat either, blows ridiculously cold... but then when im stopped at idle with a/c on car starts to over heat and radiator fan turns off.... i dont know why its turning off when the car is over heating... someone pls help, i need to survive this heat!! thx.
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Default Re: Type R in EG2 Over Heating AT IDLE (egcivicdelsol)

the fan should still shut off if the a/c is on. as for your overheating, change your thermostat. check all your lines big and small, maybe you have a small leak.
Old 07-06-2006, 01:39 PM
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ok when checking the thermostat, what am i looking for... as for as to determine if its bad or not... never changed one... nor do i know where it is... but i can find it... just not sure as to what i should look for, and there shouldnt be leaks because it never has wanted to over heat before....
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ok thanks for the link, and i know where the thermostat is now... however do u think that is my problem?? and does it matter if the part is oem honda, or kragen shyt?? thx.
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no it really doesn't matter. just don't get the cheap *** one from autozone. if that still doesnt' work, check for your compression. you could be leaking but most likly not.
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Starting to get warm when its idling also... and radiator fan isnt turning on, it turns on and off at random temps, but not when it gets hot... does that sound like thermostat, and what causes those to go bad??
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well then you got problem and i can't help you. i suggest you go buy those radiator switch and try turning your fan on all the same and see if you still over head
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buy those radiator switch?? that doesnt make too much sense... but does anyone think its my thermostat?? what are common symptoms of a bad thermostat that needs changing???
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The A/c condesor will get up to 160 degrees or more. If your A/C condesor is located in front of your Radiator, It could cause your radiator to not be able to cool as well as it needs to. Sadly, the only way to fix that is to turn the A/C of when you stop.

But to make it as good as possible, change the thermostat, and make sure you've got good coolant and that your flow is good.
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change your fan switch and thermostat.... fan switch is in thermostat housing... LMK if u want the parts.... Parts + shipping = still cheaper than autozone
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by im a monster hehe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">change your fan switch and thermostat.... fan switch is in thermostat housing... LMK if u want the parts.... Parts + shipping = still cheaper than autozone</TD></TR></TABLE>

soudns like your thermostat and fan switch are going bad but still work sometimes which would explain why fan turns on randomly

Check to see if you have loose wires connected to them
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hey im definitely interested in those parts, if u could PM with ur email addy or something that would be cool... i was talking to my friend, whos really knowledgable when it comes to hondas... and he said maybe the relay is going bad?? the cooling fan relay.... and that if were the fan and switch it would either work or it wouldnt... or do they go bad periodically... what are a few things i could change at once just to be safe and get it out of the way... thermostat and switch, which would be under $20.00.... and what else??? Any relays... or anything else i could check?
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Default Re: Type R in EG2 Over Heating AT IDLE (egcivicdelsol)

It doesn't hurt to change the t-stat. Being that its not a really expensive part.


Now for second thoughts maybe you have a friend with a honda you can just
borrow his fan switch and see if the problem persists.
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where is the fan switch located, in the thermostat housing??
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Correct for 0bd 1 and up
If its prior obd 1 its on the back of the block.
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Ok thats what i figured... both parts are around 12.00 for new ones... so i will replace those... and if it still does it, could it possible be the relay.... and if its a must... would wiring my radiator to come on whenver the ignition is on be a bad idea??
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I've heard of many people doing this. I honestly wouldn't.
People do this with last hope of their electrical problems.

I don't believe in it b/c it probally cause your engine to run cooler
than it supposed to. Thus causes metal not to expand as much at it should
resulting into flaking and premature wear of the journal areas.
That just my 2 cents. But than again I'm **** when it comes to things like that.

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I'm very **** when it comes to this also... i would hate to have to restort to wiring it up for the 24/7. Which would suck. Radiator fan went out in my eg on my way to vegas (ouch b16) and so i wired it up like that... then eventually it quit working and i had to put it on a switch (ghetto) and not preferable. is there anyway it could be a relay?? and where can u buy those at?? autozone and kragen or what?
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I don't see why you shouldn't be able to buy the relay at autozone.
I would just borrow the part from a friends honda just to make sure thats it
so you don't go blowing money on parts you really not going to need.
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so what top things do u recommend me to try after i change the thermostat and fan switch?? or do u think those will do it? also does it matter what temperature thermostat i get?? i was looking online and tehre were like 170' degrees, 180' degress, and all sorts of stuff like that.. if u could pls help i would be greatful.
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Default Re: Type R in EG2 Over Heating AT IDLE (egcivicdelsol)

I'm not too sure on the temp rating on the oem t-stat.

But 180 sounds about right to me.
Can anyone else elaborate on the T-stat degrees.
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bump... what should the thermostat degrees be, when buying, 170??? or 180?? does it mattter, or is it personal preference
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170 or 180..... doesnt matter.... or u can get a low temp (120-150) thermo..... but those are usually for FI apps or really hard driving all the time...


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