turbo or swap motor then turbo
05-23-2010, 03:23 AM
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turbo or swap motor then turbo
hello all,
i have been deciding this for a long time and couldn't make the decision.
i drive a 98 ek hatch with a b16b motor and wants a bit power. Im not looking at big hp gains, but just a daily driver with decent amout of torque.
at the moment i just have the basic bolt on parts. (intake, header, exhaust and spoon ecu) currently on obd2a.
i was going to buy a decent turbo kit and running on 8 psi but since the b16b have such high compression, would it be a problem?
if i were to turbo this motor, what kind of parts i should acquire or upgrade?
what kind of things i should look out for?
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should i sell the motor and look for a lower compression motor?
any kind of advice would be great.
i have been deciding this for a long time and couldn't make the decision.
i drive a 98 ek hatch with a b16b motor and wants a bit power. Im not looking at big hp gains, but just a daily driver with decent amout of torque.
at the moment i just have the basic bolt on parts. (intake, header, exhaust and spoon ecu) currently on obd2a.
i was going to buy a decent turbo kit and running on 8 psi but since the b16b have such high compression, would it be a problem?
if i were to turbo this motor, what kind of parts i should acquire or upgrade?
what kind of things i should look out for?
OR
should i sell the motor and look for a lower compression motor?
any kind of advice would be great.
05-23-2010, 05:27 AM
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Re: turbo or swap motor then turbo
you can run boost on high compression motors as long as the tune is on point
also look at your goals with a hp number not as psi because thats all relative depending on what size turbo
also look at your goals with a hp number not as psi because thats all relative depending on what size turbo
05-23-2010, 04:52 PM
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Re: turbo or swap motor then turbo
assuming that 1psi=10hp at low compression; 8psi on a high compression motor would be pushing close to 100hp extra. that would put you needing to upgrade your clutch and tires at the least. its very doable and streetable for a dd if you can resist the small pedal on the right, but if you go turbo i would strongly recommend you finding/towing your car to a very knowledgeable/reputable tuner in your area.
05-24-2010, 01:05 AM
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Re: turbo or swap motor then turbo
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i was thinking of upgrading my clutch to a exedy stage one clutch kit, would that be enough or should i look to something like stage two?
since i will be doing my head gasket and a valve adjustment before putting in the turbo kit.
are there any parts that i should replace also?
i should be going back to obd1 for easy tuning? i also have a safc that i have, would it be any use at all? was thinking of using hondata, but there is also aem, which would be better?
for more reliablility should i consider getting bigger injectors and fuel pump also?
i run a 2.5 mugen catback exhaust at the moment. i know it would be better with a 3inch setup but im not looking for power, since im aiming only 250 hp.
should i consider upgrading my intake manifold to skunk2 or elderbrock instead of using the stock type r?
i was thinking of upgrading my clutch to a exedy stage one clutch kit, would that be enough or should i look to something like stage two?
since i will be doing my head gasket and a valve adjustment before putting in the turbo kit.
are there any parts that i should replace also?
i should be going back to obd1 for easy tuning? i also have a safc that i have, would it be any use at all? was thinking of using hondata, but there is also aem, which would be better?
for more reliablility should i consider getting bigger injectors and fuel pump also?
i run a 2.5 mugen catback exhaust at the moment. i know it would be better with a 3inch setup but im not looking for power, since im aiming only 250 hp.
should i consider upgrading my intake manifold to skunk2 or elderbrock instead of using the stock type r?
05-24-2010, 05:19 AM
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Re: turbo or swap motor then turbo
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i was thinking of upgrading my clutch to a exedy stage one clutch kit, would that be enough or should i look to something like stage two?
since i will be doing my head gasket and a valve adjustment before putting in the turbo kit.
are there any parts that i should replace also?
i should be going back to obd1 for easy tuning? i also have a safc that i have, would it be any use at all? was thinking of using hondata, but there is also aem, which would be better?
for more reliablility should i consider getting bigger injectors and fuel pump also?
i run a 2.5 mugen catback exhaust at the moment. i know it would be better with a 3inch setup but im not looking for power, since im aiming only 250 hp.
should i consider upgrading my intake manifold to skunk2 or elderbrock instead of using the stock type r?
i was thinking of upgrading my clutch to a exedy stage one clutch kit, would that be enough or should i look to something like stage two?
since i will be doing my head gasket and a valve adjustment before putting in the turbo kit.
are there any parts that i should replace also?
i should be going back to obd1 for easy tuning? i also have a safc that i have, would it be any use at all? was thinking of using hondata, but there is also aem, which would be better?
for more reliablility should i consider getting bigger injectors and fuel pump also?
i run a 2.5 mugen catback exhaust at the moment. i know it would be better with a 3inch setup but im not looking for power, since im aiming only 250 hp.
should i consider upgrading my intake manifold to skunk2 or elderbrock instead of using the stock type r?
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05-24-2010, 06:12 AM
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Re: turbo or swap motor then turbo
dont sell the motor. You can ad a turbo with stock internals and hope that it dosnt blow in a year or less depending on how you drive. are you looking at 250 whp?
05-24-2010, 12:21 PM
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Re: turbo or swap motor then turbo
LOL^ i guess the 15 hp you lose at the crank makes a huge difference between driveable and undriveable
really? a lot of cars bone stock are 250hp... how is that too much unless you cant handle the POWER!
looks like you have a long way before you should even consider boosting... like said before do your research
really? a lot of cars bone stock are 250hp... how is that too much unless you cant handle the POWER!
looks like you have a long way before you should even consider boosting... like said before do your research
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