Originally Posted by 95EG2

5. pretty much want u see in the fast & the furiuos movie
I do not suggest u go this route u will (i promise u) get laugh at

Originally Posted by SlayANT

But who cares if he's being laughed at? He'll be living his life a quarter mile at a time!

Rear disk conversion - changing the rear drum brakes to disc. The turbo manifold takes the place of the exhaust manifold.

Originally Posted by feilong29

Ohhhhhhh duh!! Makes sense lol... AND honest opinion about kits like this: http://www.amazon.com/92-00-Civic-SO...=2PF9Q6EBH2TML

Take it easy on me... I'm learning a lot from you guys, and yes, even the smart-asses on here lol.

Originally Posted by SJC

where's that kit made? chinese turbo? if so don't do it, buy good quality parts, and keep hks/greddy in business... oh wait hskusa is done... thanks again chine for your cheap knock off ****.

Originally Posted by ek forever guy

There's no such thing as "nice sounds" from the back end. Not without spending $1500+ just on exhaust. Even still, it requires picking a good muffler and probably using several or one large resonator.

Fresh interior? What the hell does that mean. I'm getting the idea that you saw fast and the furious and you're ready to reupholster your interior in blue and white marine vinyl, add 2 tvs and a ps3 to your glovebox.

If you want a nice car to drive your lady around in, buy a TL or a CTS-V. It will be a lot easier and look better. Not to mention ride more comfortably.

A mildly modified civic is not "fun" I have one. It's not a car I think people will look at and say "wow" or anything. It's an economy oriented compact.

My ideal would be to have a nice TSX to daily drive and use my civic for track/weekend driving.

Here's my car:





It's nice, reliable, bearable for daily driving even with it's somewhat stiff spring rates. It's lower than I would like for daily driving but I've gotten used to it. I've been to every autocross event this year since the Novice School I went to and it's been the most fun I've ever had. Only planned on going to 1-2 this year but I've been to 6 now.

Some peoples take on "fresh" might be my car. Simple on the outside, stock interior with some nice seats and keep it vacuumed. And I agree with that, simple stock look with nothing flashy. Making a civic look like more than it is by over-doing the interior/exterior has always been tacky and the fore-mentioned is why.

Originally Posted by 95EG2

lol do not get a book especially a haynes manual on how to mod ur car... that a joke... go with what u like...

if u looking at a stock look, look into:
1. lower ur car
2. front and rear lip
3. rear disk conversion
4. swap
5. exhaust
6. wheels and tires(nothing to big but that my opinion 15inch is the biggest ill go)

lol if ur looking into a ricey look:
1. read the haynes manual on how to customize ur car
2. body kit
3. underglow
4. stickers
5. pretty much want u see in the fast & the furiuos movie
I do not suggest u go this route u will (i promise u) get laugh at

but this is strickly my opinion do what u like

Originally Posted by Dart block b20

X2 what he said nice clean EK bro i like.

Originally Posted by ek forever guy

Thanks man. It's proven to be very rewarding to be patient and do everything right the first time. I learned the hard way how disappointing it can be to spend hundreds on car parts only to replace them almost immediately with real/better parts because I'm so disappointed with the quality of the knock off wheels, cheap suspension parts, seats, etc.

Learn from other peoples mistakes, do it right the first time and you'll be a lot happier. Besides, Recaro, Volk, and Function7 retain their value a lot better than cheap Taiwan made nonsense.

Originally Posted by SJC

where's that kit made? chinese turbo? if so don't do it, buy good quality parts, and keep hks/greddy in business... oh wait hskusa is done... thanks again chine for your cheap knock off ****.

Originally Posted by rhymeshark916

You're rocking Konig wheels. They are from Taiwan? China? It's those *****s who made it so it must be bad.

Originally Posted by ek forever guy

I had Konig wheels for maybe a month. I've had my Volks for 5 months now. And I don't think it's because they're Chinese or Taiwanese that the products are inferior. Konig uses a cheaper production method to make a cheaper product to grab a cheaper part of the wheel buying market. My Volks weigh 11.1lbs. My Konigs probably weighed 22lbs. It really is that big of a difference. I noticed immediately driving the new wheels the steering felt more responsive and the car generally felt lighter.

Konig just makes wheels bought by individuals who don't have the patience to save up for real wheels. Just like D2 and Ksport make suspension products for people who aren't patient enough to save up for Koni/AMR/Tein/etc. Some people don't care about having real wheels or quality car parts either.

Everyone can afford quality car parts. You just have to think about it in terms of time and savings.

Economics, the science of making decisions.

Originally Posted by rhymeshark916

It's 3:30 AM Pacific time, I'm IMPATIENT. Going to bed.

LOL>YAWN

Originally Posted by rhymeshark916

You're mad for what? Oh yeah, when you order a plate of chow mein at the Chinese restaurant, the Chinese cook didn't put enough soy sauce.

That turbo kit is MADE IN CANADA. It's great quality!!!

Originally Posted by feilong29

Man, Alarms and suspension seem to be the top priority! I'm in Colorado and I've been told that they get stolen alot... But jeez, I'd hate to invest in an alarm system when I haven't even spiffied it up yet!

Upon further though, and with my limited budget, I'm going to do some simple upgrades first fo sho: Civic Type R front/rear lip, Type R or SI grill (someone say they are the same?), Wing, short shifter, cluster, Steering wheel, suspension, then I want to change my interior fabrication to Type R red. I don't care what y'all think, but I think that red is clean looking! Seats will come later, then lighting and engine/exhaust related stuff will come later too!

After my first upgrades are done, I'll look into an alarm system. I use my car for home-to-work-to-home mostly, as I work on an Air Force base, and to do some public errands. I keep it garaged so hopefully I'll hold on to it for a while.

Seems coils are more poplular than springs? I had some Pros on my 07' tiburon.. they were nice and not as low as the Sports. I've never had experience with coils so I guess I'll fiddle around with the threads here to read up on them. On a good note, I have my books coming in the mail! Xtreme customizing and haynes repair. Thanks again guys!

Originally Posted by rhymeshark916

You're mad for what? Oh yeah, when you order a plate of chow mein at the Chinese restaurant, the Chinese cook didn't put enough soy sauce.

That turbo kit is MADE IN CANADA. It's great quality!!!

Originally Posted by ek forever guy

So how would it be to have a fast car with stock wheels and suspension?

This is why I recommend suspension first.

And why do coilovers last longer than springs and shocks? Oem springs and shocks last hundreds of thousands of miles. As do Koni Yellows and Eibach coils.

I'm not sure I'd consider blox or D2 "good." I've seen plenty pictures of Broken d2 shock rods, broken mounts, broken top hats, etc. Ksport/D2 are made in the same factory. Both cheap anodized junk as far as I'm concerned.

For that kind of money you can get real suspension.

And let's face it, anyone with cheap suspension is impatient. Everyone can afford the $200 gap in price from these cheap $600 price point suspensions like Yonaka/D2/Ksport/Godspeed/Function&Form/etc.

In the end, for $200 over the course of the years you'll have the product is cheap. Buy it right the first time and you don't have to worry about it. Isn't it worth the $200 for the peace of mind in knowing that your shocks and coils have lifetime warranties?

Why do none of these $600 systems offer more than 1 year warranties?




Define "nice set of rims"

Air intake is a waste on a stock motor. Period. On a d-series you'll actually lose power. Strut bars also do NOTHING. Saving that money and buying better tires or more impactful suspension upgrades is money much better spent. Sturt bars would be the last upgrade I would do.

Originally Posted by ntensedavid

I say motor swap first if possible because that is a bigger project which requires more money if you have it. Suspension can come easily later because its not as major as a motor swap, you can get suspension for your bday, christmas, a little saved money, etc.

Springs and shocks don't last longer than full suspension systems because most people mixmtach the brands. Say Tokiko BLues/ Skunk 2, or Ground control/koni yellow, the reasoning is because the shocks are ment to be at a certain height, and when you buy shorter than stock springs, the car's weight will be transfered to the shocks first (meaning you are driving on a compressed shock versus a fully expanded shock), and then the springs. Typically, the full suspensions are adjusted height from the bottom, in which the spring and shock are preloaded and the weight of the car is on both.

By the way, what about the ease of height adjustments from shocks+springs compared to full suspension?????????

D2's work fine for me, and Blox Compitetion Series is great for drag racing. The definition of good is dependent on the end user and what they find is worth their bang for their buck. You must think you got the best suspension known to man.

Originally Posted by SJC

where's that kit made? chinese turbo?

Originally Posted by SJC

oh hey jackass i asked where it was made. I wasn't saying the kit was shitty. I said IF it was made in china don't get it, if it's made in Canada then fine. check quality before buying is what i was getting at. and the last time i had chinese food it had the perfect amount of soy sauce ha

Originally Posted by rhymeshark916

It's made from deep inside your colon hole. Smelly and shitty.



There's nothing quality about Canada. So no, it's not fine.

And that wasn't soy sauce that you're eating.

Originally Posted by feilong29

You referring to the CXRacing kit?

as for inserting pics, do they have to be uploaded on a different site/server or is there an attachment option (where I can browse my desktop) that I'm not seeing? THANKS!

ANNNNND I came up with a solid list of upgrades I'm going to perform in particular order:

Appearance:
Civic Type-R front/rear bumper lip - OEM Honda? >You got bread. Nice.
JDM black housing Type-R headlights - OEM stock or EK9 CTR for $600 > You got bread
99-00 Si cluster
Si shift boot
Civic Si (99-00) Rims (found some for $225 w/no center cap, deal?) Immaculate? With tires?
JDM Black/Blue Racing Seats - Again try some Integra seats or Del Sol. Cheap.**
Dress up my engine bay (blue theme)
Tint (gonna see if 5% is doable lol)
JDM Fog Light (debatable) -
Paint interior trim Blue or Black - What?
Black or Blue floor mats - Stock 99-00 Civics are clean. Simple.
HID kit (3000 or 8000) - NO! Unless it's retrofitted or a simple halogen bulb.

Performance:
Eibach Pro-System-Plus Suspension kit - Are you sure it's low enough?
Short Shifter (any suggestions... again? :D)
Exhaust/header set up (still looking)
Short Ram Air intake
Turbo (with either a CXRacing kit or Go-Autoworks Turbo kit)

I know you guys are anti-China BUT, keep in mind, up until recently, they owned ALL of the US' debt (which they just sold)... might not be a bad idea to buy their stuff.


Accessories:
Sound system (still looking)

As for other upgrades, I plan on doing some engine upgrades, but won't do anything until I've researched and gain some knowledge of engine workings.



So, as for the next thing item to purchase (just purchased an owners manual and a few guides), since I'm low on funds, I'll go with simple things like the lips and lights. Again, thanks for the help and input guys.

Originally Posted by rhymeshark916

No, I'm not referring to CxRacing and not anti-China or anything for that matter. That was towards the clown from Canada known as "SJC". If China wants to own the world, they can simply takeover with over 1 Billion Jet Li's and Bruce Lee's. Manpower wise.

Back to topic, nice parts list. But where is the alarm or security? Club or clutch lock? Couple things I won't do just yet or won't do at all. Which I will highlight.

Start with the suspension and Si wheels. I think you need to drive around with it and see how it feels. Power can come later. Stock brakes are fine for right now. You have a stock engine.

Originally Posted by feilong29

Ok guys, I've been doing a lot of thinking, and I think I am going to forget about turbo'n my y7 and do a swap. Of course I want either a B16B or B18C, but, how easy are those to swap? Is it pull-n-plug? And on a SN: There are two GSRs in a salvage yard around here. I believe those are either a B17A1 or USDM B18C1... would either of those be good candidates for a swap? My goal now is to have 200 hp N/A, and boost from there. I'm doing a lot of research on engines and stuff like that, and I'm sure a Type R Engine would be hard to come by. What do you guys think? There is a person here locally selling his "JDM" B18C for $1750, and another SN: A K20 for a 2002 RSX for $1000 (how are K20s for swaps?). HELP!

Originally Posted by kunov1

If you're asking how easy a swap is then it's not going to be easy for you. Doing it yourself? Got some buddies with some knowledge to help? Expect a lot of downtime for your car unless you've done a few engine swaps yourself. But judging by your first post you're probably going to have some difficulties.