Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-03-2011, 08:35 PM
  #26  
Honda-Tech Member
 
hannslebo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: ATLANTA GA
Posts: 849
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Originally Posted by EJ8_Man
Well.. If you want to remove your back seats, then you better only have 1 girl friend and no kids. Sound dampening is nice. Even with sounds dampening I have trouble hearing my sound system on the free way. In other words expect a very noisy ride. If you ditch the spare tire, either have AAA or never ever get a flat. If you get lighter seats they may not be as comfortable. If you Ditch AC and PS then you can expect to have sweat rolling down your *** in the summer, but you will have 1 or 2 HP more, and it will suck turning the steering wheel when the car is traveling between 0 - 5 mph...

But you will knock off about 60-80 lbs or so pounds. Which will give you a fraction of a second in a 1/4 mile race. Your car will also feel a little more responsive in corners. But you will need to add weight back to the car to accomplish that (tie bars, sway bars, roll cage, H-brace)








1-2 HP from PS removal??? Ive seen a 6 WHP gain on a car just from removing the PS belt! (yes i said 6whp)

I always take PS off...and mainly because I like how it feels compared to having PS.

However AC is a no go...unless drag car or you just want a really clean bay.
Old 04-03-2011, 08:36 PM
  #27  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Dontoh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 1,809
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

as far as removing ac/ps i've heard you can get 6-7 hp EACH.. idk where 1-2 came from
Old 04-03-2011, 08:39 PM
  #28  
Honda-Tech Member
 
PreyStayShun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Wild West
Posts: 1,224
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Not interior = BUSTY, hope this isn't a DD.

You won't get hassled in Canada driving w/out interior? Where I come from this is a big "no no" HAHA
Old 04-03-2011, 08:44 PM
  #29  
Honda-Tech Member
 
hannslebo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: ATLANTA GA
Posts: 849
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Originally Posted by Dontoh
as far as removing ac/ps i've heard you can get 6-7 hp EACH.. idk where 1-2 came from


IDK about 6-7hp from your AC...the only thing you get from that is a bunch of **** outta the bay and 25ish lbs.

If you have AC and it is on you lose some power, but if its off than there is not really a HP diff from having it or not
Old 04-03-2011, 08:46 PM
  #30  
H-T White Ops
 
NOFX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 17,603
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 16 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

It'd be nice to know what all the pieces weigh.

I know an easy way to drop 21 pounds from a '97-'00 Civic. It's by removing a safety feature though.
Old 04-03-2011, 08:51 PM
  #31  
Honda-Tech Member
 
alphalanos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: nigeria
Posts: 2,756
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

I personally love the look of a stripped interior thats all painted and only has seats, and the front panels, carpet, etc.
Old 04-03-2011, 09:45 PM
  #32  
Farts in the shower
 
The_Todd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 15,559
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Originally Posted by civicsmoke
if it's not a race car just keep it intact, it will be easier to sell down the road with ac and ps. The benefits of stripping it are far out weighed by the benefits of keeping it stock.

This.

It's a civic and unless you're strictly using it for track use it's a waste of time, effort and it will make your interior rattle more and look like ***.
Old 04-03-2011, 10:05 PM
  #33  
Honda-Tech Member
 
eksedan98's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 48
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

I read somewhere that for every 50 pounds you take off a car is like adding 2-3 hp. Dont know how accurate that is thou. I can however notice an increase in acceleration when I removed weighed in my car however.
Old 04-03-2011, 10:28 PM
  #34  
Honda-Tech Member
 
i_shift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tallahassee, fl, USA
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

I would say that it makes more sense to go to a manual steering rack, sure you old loose like 15lbs... but that is 15 in the FRONT of an already front heavy car. Plus at that point you can have the 3rd section of the pulley completely removed by a machine shop, reducing mass directly connected to the rotating assembly.

AC... if it works, KEEP IT. If not, rip that crap out! That gets another 20-30 pounds out of the engine bay! Relocate the battery to the back and you have moved about 60lbs out of there!
Old 04-04-2011, 06:55 AM
  #35  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
jsgarage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Ok, first I have always vowed that no honda of mine would ever have ac or ps so those two are definitely going. Airbags are next on the list and I'm thinking about getting one of those carbon sunroof delete panels. Anyone done one of those? Do they leak? I'm guessing its worth about 50-60lbs. Ok maybe not that much. Also someone made a comment about Canada being relaxed on things like stripped interiors and such. Its true but it also depends where you live. I live in a tiny town that's 3 miles outside a small city and I could probably rip around without a hood a not get hassled for it. Winter sucks here but no smog test or bar inspections is nice.
Old 04-04-2011, 07:32 AM
  #36  
Crazy Honda Guy
 
Deetz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 8,020
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 6 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Originally Posted by jsgarage
Ok, first I have always vowed that no honda of mine would ever have ac or ps so those two are definitely going. Airbags are next on the list and I'm thinking about getting one of those carbon sunroof delete panels. Anyone done one of those?
Airbags..really? Even in Canada,, on a street car, taking out that system that came with them from factory could easily void your insurance.

Good luck on reselling that car too. Nobody will ever want it, including myself...but hey, it's your car, do what you want
Old 04-04-2011, 07:41 AM
  #37  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Jimster480's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Miami, FL, USA
Posts: 6,236
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Originally Posted by jsgarage
I just joined today and last week I traded a Gen1 b16 from a ef9 for a 98 civic si. I'm in Canada so its like an EX. Anyway my plan is to swap to a gsr motor and add spray. Another part of my plan is to strip the car of any unnecessary items including the entire interior. My question is, will I regret this or is the weight savings worth it? Anyone on here ever stripped their car and then gone back to full interior? And for what reason?
Personally no. Stripping the car doesnt make it fast enough to warrent it. It just degrades the car quality overall, because people will look at the car and be like wtf why no door panels, etc.
The car will become loud as hell inside and look like crap. And when you lose to people they will laugh harder at you because your car is gutted. The truth is that civics are filled with lightweight parts (which is why they are light in the first place) so removing them doesn't really make them much lighter.
I have a full interior in my turbo EX, with leather seat covers and nice floor mats too
I am comfortable with my power windows, power steering, AC, sun roof, etc while I am ripping the fk out of kids with gutted hatches and other dumb ****. I can remember more than one time where me and atleast 1 friend laugh at a guy with a gutted hatch as we pull away from him.

One of my friends stripped his hatch one time for "less weight". After realizing that is wasnt really any faster at all he put all the stuff back in.
Old 04-04-2011, 10:53 AM
  #38  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
jsgarage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Icon4 Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Originally Posted by Deetz
Airbags..really? Even in Canada,, on a street car, taking out that system that came with them from factory could easily void your insurance.
maybe in AB with private insurance but not in middle of nowhere MB with mpi.
Anyone done the sunroof delete?
Old 04-04-2011, 11:12 AM
  #39  
Honda-Tech Member
 
TheHatchMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

link bellow for integras but does apply to civics as well

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showth...=693678&page=4
Old 04-04-2011, 12:20 PM
  #40  
Honda-Tech Member
 
TwoFaced's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Panhandle, FL
Posts: 1,086
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Carbon fiber sunroof delete seems alright, many people rarely/never use the sunroof/moonroof and IIRC it's 50+ pounds for the whole assembly and glass.

Power steering removal is a common thing...I've heard good things on the gains...not sure of exact numbers. Definitely seems to be more than 1-2 hp though.

Sound deadening is about 20+ pounds and won't change the look of the car at all, it's all under the carpet. Just use dry ice to harden it and chip it out. It will be alot louder though so if you do alot of highway miles have fun with that.

Interior panels...are you serious? The weight isn't remotely worth taking it all out. A backseat and a spare tire can be taken out on track days or weekends for w/e reason and replaced when you're done. You can swap your battery for a summit closed-cell and lose just as much weight as you would if you were to remove most of your interior panels, and gain space in the bay at the same time.
Old 04-04-2011, 02:23 PM
  #41  
H-T White Ops
 
NOFX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 17,603
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 16 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

I still think stripped interiors on stock cars look ghetto and like the owner just really wants to do the cheapest mods available simply because they're broke of cheap.

I can't think of any car I've ever been in that was fast because of a stripped interior. The whole package is a lot more attractive than a car missing half its parts.

Also, that comment earlier that someone made about "no Honda of mine will ever have ps/ac, etc.", all I can think of is a stripped out 2010 RL or a similarly equipped Odyssey or CR-V. What a piece of ****! Lol
Old 04-04-2011, 02:53 PM
  #42  
Honda-Tech Member
 
99civicB20V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: B.F.E. Tx
Posts: 245
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Im in the process of building my baby, build thread in signature, but at the same time, I've started work on an EF hatch. I said earlier in this thread that it's not worth it unless you're building a track car, but that's not entirely true either... there's some fun factor (to me) in a stripped, fully gutted interior. Kinda feels like a high horsepower go kart. Lol. Needless to say, the hatch will be bare bones inside.

Last edited by 99civicB20V; 04-04-2011 at 02:54 PM. Reason: stupid auto spell on my phone.
Old 04-04-2011, 04:32 PM
  #43  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
jsgarage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 41
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Originally Posted by NOFX
Also, that comment earlier that someone made about "no Honda of mine will ever have ps/ac, etc.", all I can think of is a stripped out 2010 RL or a similarly equipped Odyssey or CR-V. What a piece of ****! Lol
on top of vowing to never have a honda with ps or ac I also vowed not to go into debt over a car. That means the only hondas I'll ever afford are old civics and tegs. And I'll probably never sell this one so I'm not concerned with resale.

I know that stripped cars look uber ghetto but that's the whole point, the car is red and the front fenders and both bumpers need to be replaced and I'm just gonna leave them in primer.
Old 04-04-2011, 05:37 PM
  #44  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Dontoh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: New York
Posts: 1,809
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Originally Posted by hannslebo
IDK about 6-7hp from your AC...the only thing you get from that is a bunch of **** outta the bay and 25ish lbs.

If you have AC and it is on you lose some power, but if its off than there is not really a HP diff from having it or not
No, you don't only get an empty by and 25 lbs, you get less less strain on your belt. hence more hp
Old 04-04-2011, 06:13 PM
  #45  
Honda-Tech Member
 
TwoFaced's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Panhandle, FL
Posts: 1,086
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

^ Yep.

@jsgarage...you don't have to go into debt to have AC...lol you can usually get a full AC setup for next to nothing because everyone is always gutting them.
Old 04-04-2011, 06:34 PM
  #46  
Honda-Tech Member
 
lunareg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Illinois
Posts: 694
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

I just took my back seat out of my eg (cx so no ac/ps anyways)... I had the back panels out when I was doing the coilovers and god they might weigh 5 pounds tops.. whats the point? it looks like **** back there without em. I just pulled the back seat out and thats it, the rest of it doesnt matter, i could go walk acouple laps to make up the difference lol.
Old 04-04-2011, 07:39 PM
  #47  
Honda-Tech Member
 
vansxskater's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indy, In
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

[IMG][/IMG]
Some people are just into this. BTW not my car.
Old 04-04-2011, 08:00 PM
  #48  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Jimster480's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Miami, FL, USA
Posts: 6,236
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Originally Posted by jsgarage
on top of vowing to never have a honda with ps or ac I also vowed not to go into debt over a car. That means the only hondas I'll ever afford are old civics and tegs. And I'll probably never sell this one so I'm not concerned with resale.

I know that stripped cars look uber ghetto but that's the whole point, the car is red and the front fenders and both bumpers need to be replaced and I'm just gonna leave them in primer.
Looking ghetto sucks.
Old 04-04-2011, 09:25 PM
  #49  
H-T White Ops
 
NOFX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 17,603
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 16 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Originally Posted by jsgarage
on top of vowing to never have a honda with ps or ac I also vowed not to go into debt over a car. That means the only hondas I'll ever afford are old civics and tegs. And I'll probably never sell this one so I'm not concerned with resale.

I know that stripped cars look uber ghetto but that's the whole point, the car is red and the front fenders and both bumpers need to be replaced and I'm just gonna leave them in primer.
I take out loans on cars so I can help build credit. As long as I can afford it, it's okay. Trust me, I'm not "in debt" over any cars (I don't owe a penny on any of the ones I currently own), taking a loan out doesn't mean you jjust straight can't afford the car.

Aiming for only ever being able to afford old Civics and Integras is sad.
Old 04-04-2011, 09:54 PM
  #50  
Honda-Tech Member
 
raidacaipo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: CA
Posts: 3,591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: pros and cons of a stripped down civic

Sorry I wouldn't recommend stripping it. To me it degrades your civic even more especially if its an Si. I actually went through the phase of stripping mines too but now that I've grown I think its ridiculous unless you go to the track alot. I'm in the process of putting everything back together like it was intended in the factory. So far everything sounds great, the noise is not loud, the ride is comfortable but fun.

Btw I like this thread. Its interesting. Anyone have any pictures? Either full interior or stripped? Here's mines.

Name:  Picture020-7.jpg
Views: 1319
Size:  63.0 KB

Name:  eJ6013.jpg
Views: 1299
Size:  49.1 KB

Name:  eJ6028.jpg
Views: 1309
Size:  57.3 KB

Name:  eJ6015.jpg
Views: 1301
Size:  46.4 KB

Name:  eJ6035-1.jpg
Views: 1283
Size:  43.7 KB


Quick Reply: pros and cons of a stripped down civic



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:24 PM.