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Old 01-27-2009, 11:35 AM
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I'm new to the forums so I'm not exactly for sure where to post this.
I'm looking for a b series budget build for a civic coupe. Year between 92 & 00.
I have not bought the civic yet, it is soon to come.
I am hoping for 250-274 whp money is not necessarily an issue I'd just like to keep it to a minimum.
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honestly if that's all you're going for, i'd just throw in a stock b18b or something and turbo it.
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I agree w/ above comment.
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Well, that is all I want for now. As I'm only 16 I want to gradually work my way up to a faster and faster car. I know about cars, and I want to go to school to be an automotive technician in the future. I know some about swaps and wiring and stuff, I just needed a few suggestions/boosts in the right direction as my mind is all kinds of cluster f#*$ed on what to do. Most of the experience I do have is with hondas. I helped a buddy put an JDM h22 in his prelude (was an f22) and I've also helped a buddy rebuild his head on a 92 civic (not sure of the motor).
Is the b18b an easy motor to build up for higher horsepower/torque numbers in the future?
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Ls non vtec in my mind or a sohc vtec motor d16z6 motors in my mind are the best ones to turbo.
Old 01-27-2009, 06:51 PM
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The Z6 comes across my mind quite often as far as SOHC turbo's. As much as I'm on here, and as much as I read people's builds, I never really see many LS' without someone swapping a VTEC head on it. What are the Positives and Negitives of keeping it non-VTEC, minus the fact of not having VTEC?
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not having VTEC makes it even easier to tune than it already is from its low compression
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How is money not an issue if you are only 16?
Old 01-28-2009, 05:31 AM
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Money just comes pretty easily to me is all.
Already have high-school diploma + good job + friends in shops = cheaper parts and money.
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How did you get your diploma already home school? Either way I think the LS turbo would be the way to go for you.
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Nah, I just did hella work.
Thank you for the suggestions, should I build the motor any or just stock internals + turbo?
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stock internals should be fine for your power level. Just a word of advice from someone just a little bit older than you. Enjoy it while you can because when you move out on your own all of your car money goes to rent :-(
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Yeah, I know, I'm dreading the day. Thats why I'm hoping to get the car done before I'm out on my own. After I finish a few more classes I'm moving in with the lady friend, that just graduated high-school, and got a scholarship to Chicago. The only shitty part is their emissions there. Kansas doesn't do crap for emissions where Chicago I hear is a pain in the ***.
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Emissions isn't terrible as long as you don't live in honda-hell aka California... Just don't remove emissions components like the EGR from the car and make sure you have a fresh cat and you will be solid. I'm lucky and live in a county in MD that doesn't have any emissions testing but I am confident that my car would pass as it stands... Another word of advice, don't get a pet no matter how much your girlfriend begs you... Don't ask how I know...
Old 01-28-2009, 06:16 AM
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Ahah, well sadly enough to say she's already got an english bulldog. I hate the damn thing, but she loves it. It makes her happy so ah well.
Any suggestions on what kind of turbo? homemade? kits?
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Greddy makes a solid kit, I think that would be the way to go. Piecing together kits yourself just never turns out as well as the off the shelf kits. God I hate bulldogs...
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Yeah you're tellin me. Damn thing will eat a field full of cows to himself. And smells, horribly. How much do you think I'll be spending on this?
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For everything or just the turbo kit?
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LS in a eg hatch is a good setup. my boy jus picked one up. gs-r tranny. bitch fly'suse stock motor mounts wit an eg for a LS. not too much of a bitch.thats jus my suggestion. im about to do a LS in my EK coupe. turbo LS= good setup
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For everything. Like the motor, tranny, turbo setup, motor upgrades/bolt ons. I'll probably just buy a cleanish shell and drop the motor in it and everything. I'm just wanting to know a little price range.
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if the car is obd1 95 and older no need for emissions out here in iLL

and illinois emissions aren't that bad at all
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Damn thats good to hear. Thanks for that piece of info. Kansas, they don't do **** for emissions, check for CEL and thats pretty much all.
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You're looking at around 2k for the motor/tranny, $800 for a good intake/exhaust, and about $3500 for the turbo kit. None of that includes labor which would be a lot if you weren't going to do it yourself. Might I suggest looking for a car that already has an LS swap. They are fairly common, inexpensive and it would save you a bit of money to start. You just have to be careful and make sure a quality job was done...
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What're some key things to look for in buying a swapped car as in for quality job, done right, etc.?
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See if you can verify where the motor came from. If you are familiar with hondas and swaps you can tell a lot by just popping the hood. Are the wires nice and secured or does it look like spaghetti? Did the guy use quality parts? The guy should be able to tell you when all the maintenance has been done and should have receipts for all parts... Does the motor burn oil? Are there any visible leaks? Are there any CEL's? The best way to go is to perform a compression and leakdown test on the motor. If the owner has nothing to hide then he should agree to it. It doesn't take long and doesn't cost much and any shop can do it...


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