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Old 07-02-2015, 06:44 PM
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Default My hopeful Del Sol build. Two 1993 Del Sols become one.

So after getting rid of my 2nd Del Sol a couple years ago for a Prelude, I am now sort of back in the game. I was able to pick up not 1, but TWO 93 Del Sols for $550. Both (sort of) run. I am not 100% sure what the end result will be, but I will end up with 1 good car from the 2 bleh cars.

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Pictures are to follow once I can get to an actual PC rather then my phone.
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So here are the pics, the green car is going to be the end car, the white one is going to be the donor car for parts, I will be stripping that, and then getting rid of the rolling chassis.
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I always say to del sol owners when they sell their delsol that they will be back ahaha Once you go delsol you never turn back Dam these poor sol's are ruff =/ Cant wait to see what you do to them!

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protip= oven cleaner will get that paint off of the plastics without hurting them
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Originally Posted by eghatch9295
protip= oven cleaner will get that paint off of the plastics without hurting them
How long do you leave it in the oven for? Do you just wipe it off after it comes out of the oven?
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How long do you leave it in the oven for? Do you just wipe it off after it comes out of the oven?
I'm interested in this as well as I need to de-rice the A/C vents.

Also, anyone know how to get into the trunk of a del sol that doesn't have a key cylinder or popper by the driver seat? As you can see in the pics, someone has already done it once by bending and twisting the metal, I just don't know
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oven cleaner spray, like easy off. you spray them, watch the paint start to bubble off, and rinse. don't actually put the parts into the oven.
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Originally Posted by eghatch9295
oven cleaner spray, like easy off. you spray them, watch the paint start to bubble off, and rinse. don't actually put the parts into the oven.
Gotcha, that makes sense. Sounds like it'll have a similar effect as aircraft stripper
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Default Re: My hopeful Del Sol build. Two 1993 Del Sols become one.

It's basically the same thing. Aircraft stripper is just higher in toxic gasses, and should only be used in a well-ventilated area. Oven cleaner is made for in-home use.
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So spent a little time on the white car today. Stripped everything out of the trunk, took the trunk lid off in prep to go on the green car. Vacuumed the interior carpet and took out the seats. Tomorrow I will finish stripping the rest of the interior, then finish bringing the busted windshield down and vacuuming up those pieces, then pulling motor.
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aircraft stripper also devours plastic
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you may be stripping the wrong car. that bondo mess on the green one is a turn off, so is the auto trans.
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I hope to see a good b swap with a nice manual conversion in the near future
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Default Re: My hopeful Del Sol build. Two 1993 Del Sols become one.

Originally Posted by eghatch9295
you may be stripping the wrong car. that bondo mess on the green one is a turn off, so is the auto trans.
Both cars will recieve the same stripping treatment for cleaning however.....the green car is the only one that I have a title for so I can't (I think) register the white car.

Also the manual will be transferred over to the green one.
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Originally Posted by Dertyghettokid
I hope to see a good b swap with a nice manual conversion in the near future
I hope so too, I gotta find a B swap on the cheap for that though. Trying to spend as little as I can.
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Spent some time today taking out most of the rest of the interior and pulling motor then finished smashing in the windshield (didn't wanna smash it while there was carpet in the car) and vacuumed up all the little pieces. I was able to get that done with very little leakage from my body. All that's left to do it taking out the dash and taking out the the stuff that I want for the green car.

While taking out the motor I was amazed by the shape of the front of the car. The radiator was held in place by like 3 zip ties at the top, nothing at the bottom. All the heater and radiator hoses were kept on with zip ties rather than hose clamps. Overflow reservoir for the radiator was on the driver side, where the P/S reservoir would of been. Front cross bar that the hood latch bolts to was held in place by zip ties. Other parts of the front are all cut up. Only thing I had to do was clip some zip ties, and undo 4 bolts and the whole front came off to where I could guide the engine out of the bay through the hole where the radiator mounts. Some MOTOR MOUNT bolts were barely more than finger tight. Other than that it was a fairly straightforward pull.

On the other hand, I am starting to get rid of some parts so if anyone is interested in parts for your del sol, let me know what you need and I'll see if I have it available.
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Alright...I've been thinking this out and I got my first question with my dilemma:

I have Del Sol A which is an automatic Si with the 1.6L VTEC. Del Sol B is a stick shift S with 1.5L non-VTEC. Main goal is to have the 1.6L attached to the manual transmission in Del Sol A.

Here are my options:
1) using engine wiring harness from Del Sol B because it does not have all those plugs for the automatic transmission for a cleaner look.....however, it also does not have the VTEC plugs......
2) use engine wiring harness from Del Sol A, but then I got all those extra plugs for an automatic Trans that I'm not using.....

Also: what ECU do I use?
option 1) Use ECU from Del Sol A which is a VTEC ECU but then I'll get CEK codes because it's looking for an automatic Trans that isn't there.
Option 2) Use ECU from Del Sol B, not have CEL codes due to the trans, but that ECU is not "wired" for VTEC....

Any suggestions?

EDIT: does anyone have any feedback in this ( https://honda-tech.com/tech-misc-15/diy-how-convert-obd1-automatic-ecu-manual-2969571/ ) it seems like it might solve my problem with using the automatic ECU that has the VTEC in it but will eliminate my issue with CEL codes because it doesn't "see" the auto trans
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you can add vtec to your non vtec harness by harvesting the plugs from it. converting an ecu from auto to manual is super easy if you have basic soldering skills.
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Originally Posted by eghatch9295
you can add vtec to your non vtec harness by harvesting the plugs from it. converting an ecu from auto to manual is super easy if you have basic soldering skills.
Soo....de-loom both wiring harnesses, add the VTEC solenoid plug into the harness that doesn't have it, use that harness and then use the above guide to convert the ECU from the Si from automatic to manual.
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no need to get that fancy, you can just run the plug wiring and connect @ecu
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I didnt de-loom my harness the 2nd time around, I just use loomed it separately and pin the wires to the ecu plugs. Its all going to be hidden anyways...
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Cool, that issue solved then. On the side of the ECU, anyone have any experience with the auto to manual ECU conversion by removing the 17 and 18 resistors?
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Good Afternoon Everyone!

So little update and requesting some input. The white parts car is completely stripped, so I am about to get rid of that. Since it has no title to it, it seems like it might just have to go to a scrap metal yard since people don't wanna buy a bare bones rolling shell with no title. Once I get rid of that and have some room in the garage, it's time to tear down and work on the green car.

Speaking of the green car, I got it running (ish) yesterday.

At idle (which I can't see what it idles at because the Tach doesn't work) it is really shaky. The cam shaft timing belt gear wobbles around (there is no timing belt cover on it which is how I know). Once I press the gas the engine smooths out but when it goes back to idle it vibrates like crazy again. I understand this could be a mount issue so I'll check those. BUT.....there is a tapping noise in the engine, what would be my best course of action to diagnose what this noise is?

I am going to be taking the engine apart and cleaning it up so I'll get a good look at everything when I'm doing that, I would just like to know with that tapping sound, if there is something that I should be looking out for.

Thanks!

PS: I can post a video of the engine that I took yesterday. I'm just at work right now so I'll have to wait till I get home
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Here is the video of it running, sorry for the orientation. Sound is what matters I guess.

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Valve lash adjustment...and tension the timing belt properly.


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