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Old 11-02-2010, 08:39 PM
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The only thing you need is the y8 head, knock sensor, y8 ecu (or you could just wire yours for VTEC and the knock sensor) and IIRC, you need to re - wire your IACV. The tranny, and intake are just better options if you want to, not required.
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If I where you id save up for a swap. I had a d16y8 with i/h/e and it was hella slow! So i got me a jdm sirII b16 =]
Best choice i ever made lol. But if your looking to save money just throw a vtec head on and maybe a chipped ecu for fun =]
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DIY Mini me swap:
D16 Mini Me Swap Write Up

Keep in mind that just the mini me swap isn't going to give you that much.
Once you do the swap, you might as well go turbo. If you're thinking that you'll probably not boost it, then you might as well just swap a B series and save yourself some time.
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Im so bored with my car these days, I wish i was the OP and just getting into this sh*t.
Either boost it or swap.

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DIY Mini me swap:
D16 Mini Me Swap Write Up

Keep in mind that just the mini me swap isn't going to give you that much.
Once you do the swap, you might as well go turbo. If you're thinking that you'll probably not boost it, then you might as well just swap a B series and save yourself some time.
I'm not sure if I'd boost it, for the amount spent on doing the mini-me and boosting i'm guessing itd be around the same price as swapping.

I've heard of sites that sell full engines and have a decent shipping rate - are these legit? I'm all for craigslist but whenever I see a b series it's either missing something (or several things) or has high miles. Any recommended places to look?

Originally Posted by ifIexplode
Im so bored with my car these days, I wish i was the OP and just getting into this sh*t.
Either boost it or swap.

EK forever your avatar makes me lulz BTW
For this being my first civic, I didn't realize how much time/money/decisions were going to be involved in building it. So many options that I don't want to get bored with my car and blowing a few grand
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I'm not sure if I'd boost it, for the amount spent on doing the mini-me and boosting i'm guessing itd be around the same price as swapping.

I've heard of sites that sell full engines and have a decent shipping rate - are these legit? I'm all for craigslist but whenever I see a b series it's either missing something (or several things) or has high miles. Any recommended places to look?



For this being my first civic, I didn't realize how much time/money/decisions were going to be involved in building it. So many options that I don't want to get bored with my car and blowing a few grand
Check out Hmotorsonline.come for any bseries swap, They have full swaps that will drop right into your car, And the motors are clean as hell. I got my typr R from them and it looked and ran brand new.

Just make sure you do it right the first time when buying upgrades or any changes for that matter, Ive wasted money on stuff because i either didnt buy OEM parts or just cut corners. I hardly drive the civic anymore since i got my bike and now that its winter ill be driving the durango. Anywho, Good luck with your choices and any upgrades that you do.
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Originally Posted by racerx510
yeah... torreto can tell u how to run 9's in a sentra
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so i guess im gonna be the odd ball, for 3 grand i would get an ls and boost it.
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Clutch kit!
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Hey look man, you dont have to swap to be fast. Those little d16's are very strong and you can make very decent power out of them. For 3k, you can be pushing around 400hp as long as you know how to do some work yourself or have some good friends who know what they are doing.

Our shop has the single cam recipe, push 400 all day on d-series. Most people have it in their mind that bigger is better...but thats definitely not always the case... why do you think we boost hondas! to show all the muscle heads that you dont need more than a 2L motor to go fast.

Best thing of all.... most people throw d16s in the trash... parts are real easy to come by and after market parts and builds are very cheap...

So if your looking for a quick hatch on a serious budget, stick with the single slammer and show everyone up with your 1.6!!
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Originally Posted by TurboBB2
Hey look man, you dont have to swap to be fast. Those little d16's are very strong and you can make very decent power out of them. For 3k, you can be pushing around 400hp as long as you know how to do some work yourself or have some good friends who know what they are doing.

Our shop has the single cam recipe, push 400 all day on d-series. Most people have it in their mind that bigger is better...but thats definitely not always the case... why do you think we boost hondas! to show all the muscle heads that you dont need more than a 2L motor to go fast.

Best thing of all.... most people throw d16s in the trash... parts are real easy to come by and after market parts and builds are very cheap...

So if your looking for a quick hatch on a serious budget, stick with the single slammer and show everyone up with your 1.6!!
Only problem is i'm limited on engine knowledge and can only do so much. Everyone I know is all about swaps.
I'd love to just build this motor but I don't even know where to start - why I was strongly thinking about starting with a mini-me swap.
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I'll boost it, Do the mini swap than boost it. Cause after you do the mini you gonna wanna go alot faster lol. mini swap + boost & good tune = under 3k
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tune it and put a turbo system in it.
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boost it
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do a mini-me swap ,it'll make you happy. do yourself a favor and get a used d-series engine that doesn't run, tear it down and build it up until you know whats up. thats what i did w/ a b21a1, now i have two rebuilds(b21a1,b18a1) and four swaps (d15b,h22,b18b,ka24de) under my belt!

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Originally Posted by JustDoinMe
I'll boost it, Do the mini swap than boost it. Cause after you do the mini you gonna wanna go alot faster lol. mini swap + boost & good tune = under 3k
I think someone might've cleared one of my original questions up earlier but I couldn't find it - I've heard that: d-series+turbo=destroy engine in the long run. is that true? if it's tuned and all that good stuff it'd be alright right?

Originally Posted by foo fighters
do a mini-me swap ,it'll make you happy. do yourself a favor and get a used d-series engine that doesn't run, tear it down and build it up until you know whats up. thats what i did w/ a b21a1, now i have two rebuilds(b21a1,b18a1) and four swaps (d15b,h22,b18b,k24de) under my belt!
That actually sounds like a really good idea. I might just do that to gain some knowledge.
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swap if u dont like powersteering or ac / turbo if u plan on keep such
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I did go for the d16 because those good motor and not too costly. The b-series need higher octane fuel.. Gas prices not cheap..
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The b-series need higher octane fuel
Yes and no.
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Originally Posted by Erictripz
swap if u dont like powersteering or ac / turbo if u plan on keep such
I dont have powersteering or ac haha, so no effect?

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I did go for the d16 because those good motor and not too costly. The b-series need higher octane fuel.. Gas prices not cheap..
Haha I hear ya, I didnt know b's need higher octane gas?
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Depends what you do to the engine and such. It is partially true.
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