White civic

which engine is a better swap in a 92 civic?

LudeEFv2.4

B series.

LudeEFv2.4

Might want to beef up the suspension, wheels, tires, and brakes, before you consider a swap of any sorts.

White civic

why is that ,h22a has more power and torque and less expensive

VTECROAR96typeR

because it comes from a itr not a crappy prelude even if you where to buy the car it would still be more expensive than getting a prelude.

but if i where you i would not do a swap on a 4dr my personal choice tho.

shaggyeg6si

This subject has been beaten to death. Stock for stock, the H swap has more power. The B swap has more potential because they are plentiful and cheaper, and tons of aftermarket parts. A B swap is cheaper to do, you can use all OEM parts. The H swap needs mounts, and axles, and once the car has been modified for the H, will not easily go back to a B series or D series. It's like comparing the B18C to the H23A. Both great, both powerful, but ultimately it's up to you with the degree of difficulty.

T3KNiQe

^The 4 door lx is lighter than the Si hatch by well over 100lbs.

OP-Only do h22a if your going to do h2b, the tranny mounts are a bitch and cutting the body for the linkage isn't easy either. Once you do that the car can only be used for H-series. Also I say get the type S if you do decide to go H-series.

I say b18c5, its B-series, its a killer street respectable engine, it'll certainly be less of a headache, and the sky is the limit with a b18c5.

TheRappist

H22A. It will beat a b18c5.
H2B will destory a b18c5.

Milab21

iTrader: (1)

b series, type r's r great.

cmc600rr

B series for ease of install, and unlimited potential.

irollerblade

You are actually wrong, you can still put whatever swap you want in after you just order a new transmission mount from Honda and you weld it onto the body after you take the other one out.

VTECROAR96typeR

it all depends on the driver, the car dosnt mean s*** if the driver is no good

TheRappist

That's a given.

irollerblade

Coming from an h22 and being in a type r, I would get the h22. And in the end they are cheaper and more power.

White civic

either way,i will notice the DOHC VTEC kick in,that is what i really want

T3KNiQe

LOL sounding like me

VTECROAR96typeR

the h22 is a cool motor, when i had my type r on my other hatch i got beat by a h22 swapd coupe but my car was stock no boltons but after i put headers and get the **** tuned with the afc, i raced the guy again and this time i beat him by like 2 cars.. thats why the type r is such a beast im sure that honda didnt put the R on it for kicks and giggles its a handbuilt racing engine. you wont be disapointed if you get a b18c

shaggyeg6si

Don't forget there is also other types of H motors available. The B series for ease of swap on availability of parts, (especially in junkyards) is great. Yes, there is the Type R, for b-series, but there is also a Euro R for the H junkies, the F20B. Or, like the route I went, the H23A. A 2.3L bottom end with a DOHC VTEC head. I like the H swap because of the low end torque, generally speaking, it puts down more torque than the Type R does in horsepower.

To the OP, stick to a b-series. Tried and true, through and through. Easy to get, cheap to modify, and not nearly as time consuming.

White civic

i like that,you sound very confident. ok,now my 92 civic is all stock,will the car be able to handle that kind of engine jdm b18c tpyre r. do i need a better fuel pump,better brake and whats up with that 38mm axel nut on type r,normally the civic has a 32mm axel bolts.thanks

VTECROAR96typeR

oh yeah to me b series swaps are ment for 92 00 civics the h & k series are a pain in the *** to swap, and yes you are gonna need the 38mm axels unless you dont mind the car pulling to the side with the 32mm lol, and this is what you can get for the fuel pump
http://www.customcarscentral.com/ede...r--97-01-.html
better safe than sorry i always say...

P.S: any one is free to correct me if im wrong

T3KNiQe

^^I don't understand why it would pull side to side? It has a half shaft and lsd?


I mean the 94-97 ITR had 32mm axle nuts, and they went to 36mm for the 98-01. Does the 5 lug really make that big a difference on the street?

VTECROAR96typeR

yeah thats true but that is what came with my swap, sooner or later those axles are gonna snap

H22TQ

I would go with H22a. My brother put a b18c($3500) in his 2000 civic si and ran a 14.4, which is good but I have a boat 98' prelude with a jdm h22a($1200) with bolt-ons($300),no-tune, with no back seat and ran the same time. make it h2b for about the difference in his engine and mine. do the math. My car weighs almost 3000lbs. whats that little civic your talking about weigh. definately H22 if you don't mind a little extra hassle.

Dukie432

I'm my opinion buddy I struggled with the same choice. It all comes down to what u want. I just bought the 2000 jdm b18c type r and just had them ship the 96-97 axels. Whoever u buy it from will accomadate, your giving them money. If u make your choice strictly by numbers the h series will look better, but u can be 1 of the few select that owns a type r. Don't kid yourself, no matter what u buy u won't be the fastest right out the box. Hope I helped

VTECROAR96typeR

^^^ i have to agree.. i remember when the guy i raced with the h22 opend his hood everyone was quiet but something about a type r just amazes people cause when i opend my hood they where like wow!! so its a good feeling when you get that response from people