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Old 03-25-2013, 11:48 PM
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il move this to a hybrid section, but it seem's that the people in the USA don't like a challenge, ok the loom don't match the chassis that's my issue and i will sort it with out ur help, the car did have a factory immobiliser, that was removed. im asking for a little help to do with engine and some wire's that are honda civic (hence posted in a civic forum) will love to see what you think of the vag convertion on a Renault 5..
so please dont judge me i am capable of the work
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Not judging but there's no reason in this case to reinvent the wheel. Your best bet, and this is most ALWAYS the case with engine swaps at least into Honda's, would be to get a harness for the car you have, adapt it to fit the engine you're using and use an ECU that will work best for the setup. A good number of things you won't even use with the Y8 harness as well if you use an OBD1 ECU (if that's allowed in your country and I'm not even sure if a 92 CRX is OBD1 or not since we didn't have a CRX in 92 officially, I don't really consider the Del Sol a CRX when I mention it, and none of them were OBD1). Good luck
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like i say im just after help the only thing im stuck on now is having no injector pulse
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hate to tell u this start from scratch use a harness from an ef im confused with what is done but whatever im question is it there a injector resistor box hooked up if so remove it cus the y8 doesnt use one and if ur using the crx injectors switch them (not sure if the 92 is obd1 or 0 cus obd0 use resistor boxes) alsotobypass any imobilizer go get a jumper harness to convert the obd2 to obd1 and just use a standard p28 or even a p06 but u wont have vtec. do u hear the fuel pump priming if not check the main relay or switch the injectors because if the ecu doesnt see them the pump wount prime. try this to get it running then worry about bar
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right im unsure what you are saying> everything is oem honda civic injectors,loom,ecu everything was all from the same car. so if it has a resistor box it is ment to be there. i have had to convert to a inline fuel pump and at the mo i was running off the battery unill i get it running then i can wire it in properly along with the dash switch's light's
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you need the Harness that matches the chassis not the engine.
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Obviously he's not going to do that and wants us to help him work around the mess he has.
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Holy ****, this is probably the most stubborn sunuvabitch I have ever seen post on a forum.
Good luck with sorting your headache OP.
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ha ha ******* yank's all i anted to know is y is the injectors not working not nothing to do with the mess a loom is easy to convert to fit chassis not the engine so if u not going to help dont comment
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ha ha ******* yank's all i anted to know is y is the injectors not working not nothing to do with the mess a loom is easy to convert to fit chassis not the engine so if u not going to help dont comment
We tried helping, it is impossible to know how you hacked that harness.
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The injectors are working or not working? You already said the inertia switch keeps kicking in so that's why they aren't working.

This is why you don't post in a Civic forum for a UK CRX chassis. We don't have immobilizers in our ECUs not inertia switches. Might want to find a UK based forum.
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First off if you truly have a 99 engine and harness you're really in trouble due to the 99-00 vehicles have one of the ECU connectors built into the chassis harness so you're never going to get it to work right unless you plan on swapping over the dash harness.I mean to wire in an inline pump to get the fuel to the engine instead of simply using the cars harness is so backwards I can't even begin to describe. Good luck pioneering.
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We tried helping, it is impossible to know how you hacked that harness.
harness is stock!
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The injectors are working or not working? You already said the inertia switch keeps kicking in so that's why they aren't working.

This is why you don't post in a Civic forum for a UK CRX chassis. We don't have immobilizers in our ECUs not inertia switches. Might want to find a UK based forum.
i have sorted the inertia switch. both the crx and the civic was both jap import's
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First off if you truly have a 99 engine and harness you're really in trouble due to the 99-00 vehicles have one of the ECU connectors built into the chassis harness so you're never going to get it to work right unless you plan on swapping over the dash harness.I mean to wire in an inline pump to get the fuel to the engine instead of simply using the cars harness is so backwards I can't even begin to describe. Good luck pioneering.
i have fitted the dash harness every wire in the crx has been replaced with the matching one from the civic, i have also wired in a inline fuel pump. i have a spark, i have fuel pressure, the car een run's with the aid of some fuel in the intake the only damm problem is the injectors dont work.
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Originally Posted by eghatch9295
typical french. sit around and wait for americans to save the day. lol.
lol im not frensh im british and proud atleast we can make car's that go round bends
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lol im not frensh im british and proud atleast we can make car's that go round bends
Only when they run, not very often from what I have seen of British cars.
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You aren't going to get it to work the way you are trying to. You need the original harness and things need to be converted. Go to a junkyard and get the right parts. You're over complicating things way more than you need to.
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Originally Posted by EFfin Sedan 91
You aren't going to get it to work the way you are trying to. You need the original harness and things need to be converted. Go to a junkyard and get the right parts. You're over complicating things way more than you need to.
OP will not listen.
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Not judging but there's no reason in this case to reinvent the wheel. Your best bet, and this is most ALWAYS the case with engine swaps at least into Honda's, would be to get a harness for the car you have, adapt it to fit the engine you're using and use an ECU that will work best for the setup. A good number of things you won't even use with the Y8 harness as well if you use an OBD1 ECU (if that's allowed in your country and I'm not even sure if a 92 CRX is OBD1 or not since we didn't have a CRX in 92 officially, I don't really consider the Del Sol a CRX when I mention it, and none of them were OBD1). Good luck
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you need the Harness that matches the chassis not the engine.
Just to play the Devil's Advocate card for a moment, let's say for the sake of argument the OP removed ALL of the existing wiring from the CRX, and retrofit ALL of the wiring from a 99 Civic + its ECU. We're talking everything from the engine wiring harness through to the proper D16Y8 ECU, through to the gauge cluster, through to the fuel pump, etc. No cutting and splicing between the old and new harnesses ... it's a full retrofit. I realize some connectors will be different but let's say he can deal with that. So, everything old is out, and everything new goes in, and connects up properly. Basically, he is taking an OBD-whichever (0 or 1) car and converting the whole thing to ODB2. Is the consensus here that this would not work? If not, why not? This will be helpful to this user, I believe.
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I think it would be possible but why make a bigger headache for yourself? Also assuming it is what he did we really have no experience with it and thus no way of helping.
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Originally Posted by deschlong
Just to play the Devil's Advocate card for a moment, let's say for the sake of argument the OP removed ALL of the existing wiring from the CRX, and retrofit ALL of the wiring from a 99 Civic + its ECU. We're talking everything from the engine wiring harness through to the proper D16Y8 ECU, through to the gauge cluster, through to the fuel pump, etc. No cutting and splicing between the old and new harnesses ... it's a full retrofit. I realize some connectors will be different but let's say he can deal with that. So, everything old is out, and everything new goes in, and connects up properly. Basically, he is taking an OBD-whichever (0 or 1) car and converting the whole thing to ODB2. Is the consensus here that this would not work? If not, why not? This will be helpful to this user, I believe.
this is what i have done. every wire has been removed and replaced with the 99 civic,
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Then why are things bypassed?
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nothing has been bypassed exept the immobiliser
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So you have a key all of a sudden? You mentioned bypassing the starter.

If everything is as you say then troubleshoot for a no start condition. The procedure is in the FAQs.


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