EH3 JR

EKSiR99,

Oops,.. forget to answer your question. CAI is no good unless your car is turbocharged or a bigger engine.

If you want the most performance out of SRI, go for ARC, Comptech Icebox, or Max Air shield (must have a very good seals from the hood to all surrounding). If you are not getting any of these, forget the SRI. The K&N drop-in will do the best job.

hannslebo

does this really work??

ej1love

k&n with sri tube into the stock box...

EKSiR99

ahhh maybe but minimal

Togger

I would (and do) use a drop in K&N filter in my b16 Sol. I will be running a col air intake into the box as i have removed the resinator box so get the best of both worlds! :D

EH3 JR

This is a very good way given you have money to buy both sri and the drop in filter AND given the tube fits perfect without any leak. But, most likely you can spend the $ for icebox.

Heatwrap on header insulates heat from the header so that it exhausts in a higher speed. But, they don't reduce temputure a lot in the engine bay. Not too big of a difference for the intake air

^XpLiCiTxX^

I have an AEM short ram, never used for sale, check my album.

http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=...WbwIh4l5k2TGxc

p nut

K&N doesn't filter worth a hill of beans. It's not going to make any difference on a stock engine. I stick with good ol' OEM paper filters.

GrenadaEG2

Stock air box + hard pipe to TB + Velocity stack fabbed into the box opening run through into fender+ custom baffle in box to chanel air to filter element = FTMFW !!

Honestly I dont know if the last 2 steps were needed, thats how I have mine set up and it has worked out well. Sounds mean. Noticeable torqe over short ram. Don't have a before and after dyno, so I can't say for sure what it is making vs. stock or short ram.

OneFire

Buy a cheapo ebay cold air intake. Chop the pipe in half and get both

BubbleSnail

I dont get what youre trying to say here...
You made your point about a 1.6 not being strong enough to "suck the air" moot by bringing up forced induction. You cant have a cold air intake and a turbo charger.
If you ask me, Ill say use the K&N drop-in filter and get a couple feet of heater ducting to bring the fresh, dense air to the filter; not vice versa.
If you like the look and sound of a cone filter that sucks up hot, thin air and allows contaminants to get into your motor and an aluminum pipe that radiates heat, transfering it to the intake charge, go ahead and waste your money.
Not trying to be a jerk, but Ive been through this too many times. Its starting to get old. Just like "dem mad tyte jdm drilled slotterd r0t0rz dawg," dont waste your hard earned money on it.

ddd4114

The 1.6L engine is not strong enough to suck in air? I wonder how it runs with the absence of oxygen. Also, as stated above, turbocharging defeats the whole "cold" air intake idea.

As far as temperature is concerned, there is a negligible difference between a SRI and a CAI. Depending on the conditions, it may be a couple degrees Fahrenheit. The advantage comes from the length of the tubing much more than the location of the inlet.

For daily driving, use a K&N drop-in filter, or use a CAI if you want a little more mid-range torque. If you're after pure performance, it's really hard to tell without knowing the application and testing at the track or dyno.

EH3 JR

I don't want to go through the detail but just to answer your question. Yes, turbo charger do sucks more air in volume than a small 1.6L NA engine. Again, a bigger displacement engine is stronger to suck more air as well. All I am talking about is the volume of air and the volocity of the air. 1.6L engine compares to a bigger displacement engine, 1.6L engine is not strong enough. That's why you will see more gain on a bigger displacement engine with CAI installed.

You are also correct that turbo charger heats up the intake air. That's why turbo charged cars equip an intercooler to cool down the air before the throttle.

I am sure that I cover enough details. I am going to stop here because I don't want to hijack somone's thread. You are welcome to PM me for questions and hopefully that I can answer your concern. You will find out alot more information when you track your car more often. Good luck!

H22EG'z

what does the velocity stack do?... also is it a stupid idea to get an AEM CAI and cut it.. and the velocit stack?...prolly, but just wondering

mortificationrock

just get a short ram and add a velocity stack. Dont cut the CAI.

Brandeezy1

Okay, im confused. Im new to this. So does dropping in a K&N filter into a OEM intake make a that much of a difference?

99r

yea what does a velocity stack do

mortificationrock

Look it up. Its called a BPI velocity stack. Or ebay it as Blox velocity stack.

ddd4114

A velocity stack does two things:
1) Makes the air less turbulent as it enters the tube
2) Increases the coefficient of discharge of the entrance

If a tube is left untouched, with a rough transition into the atmosphere, the incoming air will tend to flow through the center of the tube as it enters due to its momentum. This is sort of like a naturally occurring "choke", and the entrance is said to have a coefficient of discharge of less than 1 (meaning, maximum potential air flow is less than 100% for the tubing diameter). When a velocity stack is added, the transition is smoother, and the air is more likely to fill the entire tube upon entering. The difference in flow potential between an open tube and one with a velocity stack is ~10% - but that's just potential. The real difference in flow rate is much less, if not negligible, considering how much air a 2.5" tube can flow. It's also important to note that the air will only "choke" near the entrance of the tube, and it will gradually fill the rest of the cross-section as it travels toward the throttle body. They're snake oil in my opinion.

For those of you who want a more technical description, Gordon Blair has a decent, short article on them: http://www.profblairandassociates.co...mouth_Sept.pdf

Vindicator9000

Pics? I'd like to see this. Are you running a cone filter in the stock airbox?

I'm currently running a stock Civic airbox with dropin K&N, resonator removed, but kept the J pipe going into the fender. Running a cut OEM LS arm to gsr engine, because the Civic arm wouldn't mate to the throttle body on the super low gsr manifold.

Seemed like it made a bit of difference over stock, but I'd like to figure out how to incorporate a velocity stack and cone filter into my stock airbox, and some better way to get air from behind the bumper (without paying $400 for the ARC or comptech setups) while retaining the OEM look. The obvious answer is to find a gsr arm/airbox, but I haven't been able to source one cheap yet. I'd prefer to keep an OEM arm, because I *think* that the rubber arm would resist heatsoak better than aftermarket aluminum.

p nut

No. None. Except it'll be slightly louder. Whoop-dee doo. It will, however, spike the silicone levels in your oil.

Brandeezy1

What about a velocity stack? Difference in that?

Integra4lyfe069

how many pages are we going to let this go on before somebody gives usefull advice.

the dude wants an air intake

stock intake = garbage

go get an AEM intake with the air bypass valve

make it long and point it twords the front.

MAX air intake, WILL reach engine, WILL nopt suck water. and will not harm your veichle.

300$ n be done


no need to read 3 pages of useless bullshit, its a damn air intake.

trustdestruction

^using a bypass valve with a CAI ends up giving you about the same gains as just an SRI...

waste of money

Integra4lyfe069

what gains r u even talking bout? 5-10 hp?

LOL as if this is gonna be hardly noticable anyway.

chances r its his DD
why the hell does it even matter?>

he already said he jus wants bs bolt ons till he spends more money doing thingsa second time

so just let him do it cheap this time.

y go all out now and all out again later? when he plans on turboing it so what he spends now is a waste of money anyway and he havnt even spent it yet.