NotARaCist

iTrader: (1)

90? Is that a typo, or do the 4G guys really get screwed with a switch halfway through the generation? Throwout/pilot bearing differences would explain the Exedy part numbers, thank you for that clarification. Since most people I assume order "kits", the difference is worth mentioning.

94EG8

Nope.

There are actually 3 different clutches for '88 - '91 Civics, 4 if you count a hodge podge of parts someone figured out would work that I'll explain in a minute.

1. '88 - 21 spline input shaft and uses a small (200mm disc/flywheel)
2. '89 - 20 spline input shaft and uses a small (200mm disc/flywheel)
3. '90+ - 20 spline input shaft and uses a large (212mm disc/flywheel)

As for that forth clutch I mentioned previously, if you're the unlucky owner of an '88 transmission you can use an use a clutch disc for an '88 Accord with a '90+ Civic pressure plate and flywheel as an upgrade.


Even on things like discs and pressure plates I've seen Honda use different part numbers for clutches I know are the same.

NotARaCist

iTrader: (1)

Oh wow, those poor bastards in 4G's.

I wasn't looking at P#'s for the different parts, I was just looking at P#'s for the "kits". I was also spending more time looking at Exedy, rather than OEM, for the difference from 6G to 7G. The difference in P#'s from 6G to 7G makes sense though, since if just one part of the kit changes, they have to change the entire kit P#.

CrossCountry

So, a shop changed the clutch. Just got it back, it sounds good until I get to fifth gear, then it whines.
If I'm slowing down in 4th, it will start to whine. But then when I shift down into 3rd the whine stops.
So when I heard the whine in 5th, I tried shifting to 4th... but all that did was make the car idle too high. So, back to 5th, and it whines.
Any idea what's wrong?

The shop confirmed that the clutch was burnt. They shaved the flywheel just a little bit, but said it looked really good.

Former User

Sounds like a transmission problem.

CrossCountry

I thought the flywheel was the first thing to go bad in a transmission? It sounds so good at lower speeds though (as long as I have it in the correct gear for the speed). No grinding at all. Real smooth.

Former User

The flywheel is not part of the transmission.

Have you checked the transmission fluid? Is it low or old?

Caoboy

You could check the transmission fluid and make sure it is at the correct level.

Otherwise, you'll probably need to tear into it and make sure that the synchros and gears are within specifications.

CrossCountry

Are the synchros and gears part of the clutch or the transmission?
Could they have put in the wrong clutch?
The transmission fluid is new... unless the shop didn't put any in, then it's empty... I can't imagine they would put the wrong amount in, but perhaps they forgot entirely? I'll check in a bit.

CrossCountry

I went to the shop to have them check the fluid level, and it was 2 quarts low.
They put in a Luk RepSet Clutch Kit, part # 08-022 rather than the Exedy that I had requested : (
They said part of the noise is a bad input bearing. And that the dust shield is missing... they don't know where it is, if they lost it or if it was already missing...

I'm wondering if I messed up the input bearing by driving 2 hours without the fluid in it? Or maybe it was the 2000+ miles before that that took it's toll... lol

In any case, I dislike having things done at shops. I know, I mess things up when I try to fix them, but I'm not a mechanic... I expect them to do things correctly and check fluid levels, etc. grrrrrr.

tony_2018

2 quarts low? 2 QTS LOW!?! wtf dude these transmissions only 2 about that much, which means you tranny has a leak somewhere

CrossCountry

I mean 200,000+ miles.

I had drained the transmission fluid before it went to the shop... I took apart everything that I could with my tool set, according to the Hayne manual. I'm not sure why the manual says to drain the fluid, evidently the shop wouldn't have drained it in the process of changing the clutch.

Also, the shop said they didn't take out the clip / spring pin on the shift rod, like the manual says to do.

I guess having the car way up on a lift, you can do certain things differently?

They checked the brake fluid, and changed the spark plugs... I just figured they checked the transmission fluid too, since they had taken it apart to change the clutch.

Caoboy

Wow.

Well idk what to say here. At the very least you should not use that shop again.

I am surprised they did not check the transmission fluid at all. Or notice that it was low when they test drove it.