aMbEr_ObSeSsEd

hello.. ive been stumped on the matter of which b16 is the best, ive only heard of the b16a3 witch is dohc vtech del sol, and the b16a2 witch is 99-00 civic si. if you could give info on which are better or if there are any i missed that would b swt.

komat

b16a3 160hp(94-95 del sol vtec) odb1
b16a2 160hp (99si) odb2
jdm b16a sir 160hp (crx sir) optional lsd odb0
jdm b16a sir2 170hp (92 -95 civic sir) optional lsd on tranny odb1
jdm b 16a XSI 170hp (92-93 integra XSI) optional lsd odb1


they are basicly all the same thing just go for the odb* that is in your car so u dont have to go for a conversion


Modified by komat at 3:09 AM 5/24/2005

EK k kay

B16b

92b16vx

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That would be it.

scott0

the b16bs had a little more aggressive cams in them than the b16a JDM motors. b16B is prolly your best bet.

good luck with the project.

Revolver

That's not the only difference though. B16b

92b16vx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scott0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the b16bs had a little more aggressive cams in them than the b16a JDM motors. b16B is prolly your best bet.

good luck with the project.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Do you know what a B16B is?

MonkeyBoy668

The B16A2 was also used on 96-97 Del Sol VTEC.

I kind of like having a good variety of gizmos that are simple to get going thanks to OBD-2.

sinister6

Stock to stock B16B, Most aggressive Stock Cam (bigger then ITR), better piston...and they are fairly new than most B16A out there.

but for the money of B16B..bleh i would go to B18C5/CR.. or get a jdm B16A 170p then mod the hell up.

its still 1600cc..or 1.6L displacement. dont expect a lot different..

Revolver

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I would also like to know how many people actually know what a B16b really is.

92b16vx

Destroked ITR? haha

Methuselah

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scott0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the b16bs had a little more aggressive cams in them than the b16a JDM motors. b16B is prolly your best bet.

good luck with the project.</TD></TR></TABLE>

and crank, and rods, and bearings, and pistons, and block, and head, and red-line...

Kyles ej1

for the money of a ctr i would get an itr cuz the ctr still has low trq with like 117

blaze the chemi

The B16B is available in the Civic Type R. It costs almost as much as a B18C5 (ITR). The best B16 stock is the B16B. But you can get an old B16A (OBD1) and convert it to OBD2 then it is a B16A2. If you get an old B16A and then gut it out, put new crank (ITR) new forged rods and piston and put a ITR head on, then you will have the best B16 out there. The ITR head doesn't fit on a GSR (B18C1) block. I blew my B16A2, bought a JDM B16A, had the shop convert it to OBD2 and will soon gut it out and have a blast. This way you can hit almost 500 whp running around 20 psi. Hope this helps.

Kyles ej1

how are u gonna say the itr head doesnt fit on a gsr? your an idiot

turboxsi

Don't the b18c5 and the b16b share the same block and head, just the b16b has a differently setup bottom end(rods, crank, pistons) obiviously giving it the 1.6 liters. And of course everyone knows the cams are more aggressive.

Are the valvesprings the same or different??

92b16vx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaze the chemi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The B16B is available in the Civic Type R. It costs almost as much as a B18C5 (ITR). The best B16 stock is the B16B. But you can get an old B16A (OBD1) and convert it to OBD2 then it is a B16A2. If you get an old B16A and then gut it out, put new crank (ITR) new forged rods and piston and put a ITR head on, then you will have the best B16 out there. The ITR head doesn't fit on a GSR (B18C1) block. I blew my B16A2, bought a JDM B16A, had the shop convert it to OBD2 and will soon gut it out and have a blast. This way you can hit almost 500 whp running around 20 psi. Hope this helps.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Son, put the pipe DOWN.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaze the chemi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The B16B is available in the Civic Type R.

True
It costs almost as much as a B18C5 (ITR).

True

The best B16 stock is the B16B.

True

But you can get an old B16A (OBD1) and convert it to OBD2 then it is a B16A2.

Almost, but not quite

If you get an old B16A and then gut it out, put new crank (ITR) new forged rods and piston and put a ITR head on, then you will have the best B16 out there.

False

The ITR head doesn't fit on a GSR (B18C1) block.

False

I blew my B16A2, bought a JDM B16A, had the shop convert it to OBD2 and will soon gut it out and have a blast. This way you can hit almost 500 whp running around 20 psi. Hope this helps.

There'a a lot more to it than that speedy</TD></TR></TABLE>

turboxsi

^^^HAHAHA, i agree blaze the chemi has to stop that blazin' and read up on his ****!!

blaze the chemi

A shop told me this, plus many other ricers have told me this because I am inquiring. If you've done it...great....but don't call me an idiot because I haven't done. Prove me wrong then call me an idiot you F#$K!

92b16vx

Stop going to that shop....you ****.


moron

Cboy1-EG6

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aMbEr_ObSeSsEd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hello.. ive been stumped on the matter of which b16 is the best, ive only heard of the b16a3 witch is dohc vtech del sol, and the b16a2 witch is 99-00 civic si. if you could give info on which are better or if there are any i missed that would b swt.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Hahaha my bad Pete I knocked out on my comp desk yesterday... But everything you need to know is here...

turboxsi

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaze the chemi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A shop told me this, plus many other ricers have told me this because I am inquiring. If you've done it...great....but don't call me an idiot because I haven't done. Prove me wrong then call me an idiot you F#$K!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dude no offense but you said an ITR head wouldn't fit on a b18c block. That is very wrong, because it is easily done with any knowledge of honda b-series engines.

Kyles ej1

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blaze the chemi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A shop told me this, plus many other ricers have told me this because I am inquiring. If you've done it...great....but don't call me an idiot because I haven't done. Prove me wrong then call me an idiot you F#$K!</TD></TR></TABLE>
maybe u should read the rules again or for the 1st time


taken from https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=990205

- If you post technical info, but are not 100% sure about the info please say so. Too many people post "factual" info when it is in fact, NOT so. This is as bad or worse than any other violation of the rules. By simply stating "I'm not 100%, but I think..." you can save someone a lot of trouble if they are working on their car based on your info.

even my ******* gf knows u can put an itr head on a gsr block

blaze the chemi

Then please inform us. What kind of modification or any would you need to do? This is a forum. Enlighten us if you have succeeded. I was giving my 2 cents and apparently is worth just that. I have never seen it done and frankly over here in GA there are not as many shops as there are in Cali.

Kyles ej1

there are no mods needed to put it on and its an excellent upgrade. and most ppl that work on their cars dont go to shops, they do it themselves and save them money cuz shops rip u off