B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2
10-12-2005, 12:26 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (vancoland)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Falqon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You bought a JDM car with the lettering B16a2, wow, somebody wasted a lot of money </TD></TR></TABLE>
then so didn't a lot of people here on h-t. you know like the ones who bought the clock, gauges, headlights, foglights, bumper, rhd trim peices, gauge bezel, strut bar, climate control etc.. namely all of the people in my sig. not to mention what i still have left, and what i sold on ebay.
don't make me go on.......... like you would know your **** with your y8. but hey it's jdm. it's a honda so that automatically makes it jdm.
You bought a JDM car with the lettering B16a2, wow, somebody wasted a lot of money </TD></TR></TABLE>
then so didn't a lot of people here on h-t. you know like the ones who bought the clock, gauges, headlights, foglights, bumper, rhd trim peices, gauge bezel, strut bar, climate control etc.. namely all of the people in my sig. not to mention what i still have left, and what i sold on ebay.
don't make me go on.......... like you would know your **** with your y8. but hey it's jdm. it's a honda so that automatically makes it jdm.
10-12-2005, 12:32 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (vancoland)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vancoland »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lookey here...i got a new sig</TD></TR></TABLE>
and dude seriously your a moron.
feel free to put that in your sig.
and dude seriously your a moron.
feel free to put that in your sig.
10-12-2005, 06:23 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (baseballinmyass)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baseballinmyass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
then so didn't a lot of people here on h-t. you know like the ones who bought the clock, gauges, headlights, foglights, bumper, rhd trim peices, gauge bezel, strut bar, climate control etc.. namely all of the people in my sig. not to mention what i still have left, and what i sold on ebay.
don't make me go on.......... like you would know your **** with your y8. but hey it's jdm. it's a honda so that automatically makes it jdm.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He wasn't saying you wasted your money because you decided to buy something JDM. Your engine is not JDM. Ask any mod on here that JDM engines do not have a number at the end of the block stamp
then so didn't a lot of people here on h-t. you know like the ones who bought the clock, gauges, headlights, foglights, bumper, rhd trim peices, gauge bezel, strut bar, climate control etc.. namely all of the people in my sig. not to mention what i still have left, and what i sold on ebay.
don't make me go on.......... like you would know your **** with your y8. but hey it's jdm. it's a honda so that automatically makes it jdm.</TD></TR></TABLE>
He wasn't saying you wasted your money because you decided to buy something JDM. Your engine is not JDM. Ask any mod on here that JDM engines do not have a number at the end of the block stamp
10-12-2005, 06:37 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (SkoundrelUSA)
Allright man here it is
your pre '92 civics and CRXs are obd0
your 92-95 civics are obd1
96-00 is obd2
the obd stuff has to do with the ECU wiring or some ****.
B16a and B16a1 are the same thing i believe (i may be wrong about that) and they have 160hp. The B16a2 has 170hp, and the B16a3 only came in the V-TEC Del Sols it has 160hp(by the way the Del Sols are obd1) you can get the B16a2 in obd0, obd1, and obd2 you just have to read about the engine and see what it says. USDM is United States Domestic Market usually not as well built as JDM which stands for Japanese Domestic Market
your pre '92 civics and CRXs are obd0
your 92-95 civics are obd1
96-00 is obd2
the obd stuff has to do with the ECU wiring or some ****.
B16a and B16a1 are the same thing i believe (i may be wrong about that) and they have 160hp. The B16a2 has 170hp, and the B16a3 only came in the V-TEC Del Sols it has 160hp(by the way the Del Sols are obd1) you can get the B16a2 in obd0, obd1, and obd2 you just have to read about the engine and see what it says. USDM is United States Domestic Market usually not as well built as JDM which stands for Japanese Domestic Market
10-12-2005, 08:29 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (streetracerof06)
I'd like to know why this is going on, even though I completely owned this thread. Completely...then MORE people come on, like kid above me, giving wrong answers.
Are my "guides" not comprehensive enough. Jesus H Christ.
There IS NOT ******* MOTOR WITH A STAMP THAT SAYS B16A2 AND HAS 170 HP....Goddamnit.
LET ME REITERATE....IF IT SAYS B16A2 on the BLOCK:
IT'S A 92-95 OBD1 EURO 160 CIVIC VTi
OR
IT'S A 96-97 OBD2 USDM 160 DELSOL VTEC
OR
IT'S A 99-00 OBD2 USDM 160 CIVIC Si.
IF IT ACTUALLY SAYS "B16A2" IT HAS 160 HP REGARDLESS OF YEAR.
Can I make it ANY MORE CLEAR?
Final note, JDM cars aren't built any better than USDM cars. Some of the features may be nicer, but Honda maintains the same standards on the build of all cars. Only the NSX and S2000 is any different.
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Are my "guides" not comprehensive enough. Jesus H Christ.
There IS NOT ******* MOTOR WITH A STAMP THAT SAYS B16A2 AND HAS 170 HP....Goddamnit.
LET ME REITERATE....IF IT SAYS B16A2 on the BLOCK:
IT'S A 92-95 OBD1 EURO 160 CIVIC VTi
OR
IT'S A 96-97 OBD2 USDM 160 DELSOL VTEC
OR
IT'S A 99-00 OBD2 USDM 160 CIVIC Si.
IF IT ACTUALLY SAYS "B16A2" IT HAS 160 HP REGARDLESS OF YEAR.
Can I make it ANY MORE CLEAR?
Final note, JDM cars aren't built any better than USDM cars. Some of the features may be nicer, but Honda maintains the same standards on the build of all cars. Only the NSX and S2000 is any different.
\CLOSE
10-12-2005, 09:23 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (streetracerof06)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by streetracerof06 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Allright man here it is
your pre '92 civics and CRXs are obd0
your 92-95 civics are obd1
96-00 is obd2
the obd stuff has to do with the ECU wiring or some ****.
B16a and B16a1 are the same thing i believe (i may be wrong about that) and they have 160hp. The B16a2 has 170hp, and the B16a3 only came in the V-TEC Del Sols it has 160hp(by the way the Del Sols are obd1) you can get the B16a2 in obd0, obd1, and obd2 you just have to read about the engine and see what it says. USDM is United States Domestic Market usually not as well built as JDM which stands for Japanese Domestic Market </TD></TR></TABLE>
Never use "Alright man here it is" if you don't a have a clue what the expletive you're talking about. Seriously go find out what cars came with the B16A2 and you'll see that they are not 170hp. And when did the B16A2 ever come in anything other than obd2? And your last statement is hilarious.
your pre '92 civics and CRXs are obd0
your 92-95 civics are obd1
96-00 is obd2
the obd stuff has to do with the ECU wiring or some ****.
B16a and B16a1 are the same thing i believe (i may be wrong about that) and they have 160hp. The B16a2 has 170hp, and the B16a3 only came in the V-TEC Del Sols it has 160hp(by the way the Del Sols are obd1) you can get the B16a2 in obd0, obd1, and obd2 you just have to read about the engine and see what it says. USDM is United States Domestic Market usually not as well built as JDM which stands for Japanese Domestic Market
</TD></TR></TABLE>Never use "Alright man here it is" if you don't a have a clue what the expletive you're talking about. Seriously go find out what cars came with the B16A2 and you'll see that they are not 170hp. And when did the B16A2 ever come in anything other than obd2? And your last statement is hilarious.
10-12-2005, 09:35 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (diegoaccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by diegoaccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
There IS NOT ******* MOTOR WITH A STAMP THAT SAYS B16A2 AND HAS 170 HP....Goddamnit.
IF IT ACTUALLY SAYS "B16A2" IT HAS 160 HP REGARDLESS OF YEAR.
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whatever dude and the 2 tenths extra comp height and the aggressive timing curve mean nothing, right?
There IS NOT ******* MOTOR WITH A STAMP THAT SAYS B16A2 AND HAS 170 HP....Goddamnit.
IF IT ACTUALLY SAYS "B16A2" IT HAS 160 HP REGARDLESS OF YEAR.
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whatever dude and the 2 tenths extra comp height and the aggressive timing curve mean nothing, right?
10-12-2005, 09:52 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (baseballinmyass)
uh i suck. you guys got me wondering so i went out side and took a look at my engine's tag.
i guess i deserve an e-*** kicking. but i still stand by the hp numbers high *** compression and timing aint there to save gas..........
i guess i deserve an e-*** kicking. but i still stand by the hp numbers high *** compression and timing aint there to save gas..........
10-12-2005, 05:18 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (baseballinmyass)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baseballinmyass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and dude seriously your a moron.
feel free to put that in your sig. </TD></TR></TABLE>
haha...you're hilarious dude...you bought a front clip and didn't know what the fawk it came with...and you think im a moron?...you actually had to look and see if your engine was b16a or b16a2 when its jdm???...dumbass
and dude seriously your a moron.
feel free to put that in your sig.
</TD></TR></TABLE>haha...you're hilarious dude...you bought a front clip and didn't know what the fawk it came with...and you think im a moron?...you actually had to look and see if your engine was b16a or b16a2 when its jdm???...dumbass
10-12-2005, 05:57 PM
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Re: (Mohsin)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mohsin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OBD2 Euro All = 170 .. Im sure the b16a2 Euro has 158bhp and not 170.
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You're an IDIOT
THE EURO B16A2 IS OBD1
THE EURO MOTOR THAT IS OBD2 IS THE B16A4 AND THAT DOES HAVE 170 HP.
I'VE ALREADY STATED THAT, ASSFUCK.
GODDAMN = EURO B16A2 = OBD1, USDM B16A2 = OBD2, ALL ARE 160.
MODS, you can look up this info WHICH IS COMING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, confirm that it's true, and close this cesspool, before more idiots come in here.
This wouldn't bother me, except these same people are probably the ones bashing people who aren't straight JDM. Yet they think that a JDM OBD1 motor is a "B16A2" and yadda yadda. You people desreve to have Wings West Big Mouths bolted to your cars.
<FONT SIZE="30">How much CLEARER CAN I MAKE IT?????</FONT>
And baseballin...I said if it's a JDM OBD1 motor with a 5 speed then it has the 170HP and 10.4:1 compression. You have a JDM motor, and it's from a 5 speed EG. If you read my posts, you'd know, so there is no reason to be "I'll stand by my high compression, blah blah" Everybody (with any sense) knows it's 170, doofus.
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You're an IDIOT
THE EURO B16A2 IS OBD1
THE EURO MOTOR THAT IS OBD2 IS THE B16A4 AND THAT DOES HAVE 170 HP.
I'VE ALREADY STATED THAT, ASSFUCK.
GODDAMN = EURO B16A2 = OBD1, USDM B16A2 = OBD2, ALL ARE 160.
MODS, you can look up this info WHICH IS COMING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, confirm that it's true, and close this cesspool, before more idiots come in here.
This wouldn't bother me, except these same people are probably the ones bashing people who aren't straight JDM. Yet they think that a JDM OBD1 motor is a "B16A2" and yadda yadda. You people desreve to have Wings West Big Mouths bolted to your cars.
<FONT SIZE="30">How much CLEARER CAN I MAKE IT?????</FONT>
And baseballin...I said if it's a JDM OBD1 motor with a 5 speed then it has the 170HP and 10.4:1 compression. You have a JDM motor, and it's from a 5 speed EG. If you read my posts, you'd know, so there is no reason to be "I'll stand by my high compression, blah blah" Everybody (with any sense) knows it's 170, doofus.
10-12-2005, 06:17 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (Coldth1)
i was under the impression that it was like this
B16A Gen 1 (SIR I) 158HP 111TQ OBD0
B16A Gen 2 (SIR II) 170HP 115TQ OBD1
and then you have the B16A Gen 2 with cable transmission which was available in the Honda Integra XSi 92-93....
And then for USDM motors you have the B16A2 which was OBD2 and available in civic Si 99-00, and had 158HP and the B16A3 is the same thing just came in a Del Sol.. JDM motors i hear do have more HP due to higher compression.. but i may be wrong.. and if i am please someone correct me.. i think i may have already repeated someone.. lol OH well....
B16A Gen 1 (SIR I) 158HP 111TQ OBD0
B16A Gen 2 (SIR II) 170HP 115TQ OBD1
and then you have the B16A Gen 2 with cable transmission which was available in the Honda Integra XSi 92-93....
And then for USDM motors you have the B16A2 which was OBD2 and available in civic Si 99-00, and had 158HP and the B16A3 is the same thing just came in a Del Sol.. JDM motors i hear do have more HP due to higher compression.. but i may be wrong.. and if i am please someone correct me.. i think i may have already repeated someone.. lol OH well....
10-12-2005, 06:33 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (MikesGSRbuiltEG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by me »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
SiRII = trim level, not a generation.
There are EF9 SiR, and EF9 SiRII
There are EG6 SiR, EG6 SiRII, and EG6 SiR-S
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Again, the del Sol cover 2 different OBD's.
93-95's =
delSol S = D15B7
delSol Si= D16Z6
delSol VTEC = B16A3 (94-95)
96-97
delSol S = D16Y7
delSOL Si = D16Y8
delSol VTEC = B16A2
Last thing.... it's 170 HP, and 113 ft/lbs.
SiRII = trim level, not a generation.
There are EF9 SiR, and EF9 SiRII
There are EG6 SiR, EG6 SiRII, and EG6 SiR-S
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Again, the del Sol cover 2 different OBD's.
93-95's =
delSol S = D15B7
delSol Si= D16Z6
delSol VTEC = B16A3 (94-95)
96-97
delSol S = D16Y7
delSOL Si = D16Y8
delSol VTEC = B16A2
Last thing.... it's 170 HP, and 113 ft/lbs.
10-12-2005, 10:34 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (diegoaccord)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by diegoaccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
[How much CLEARER CAN I MAKE IT?????</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude, get over yourself, you've already been wrong on this thread once.
The correct information has already been posted on this thread, if people want to post ignorantly without stopping to even read, not much you can do. you're only making the problem worse by making this thread insane long.
[How much CLEARER CAN I MAKE IT?????</TD></TR></TABLE>
Dude, get over yourself, you've already been wrong on this thread once.
The correct information has already been posted on this thread, if people want to post ignorantly without stopping to even read, not much you can do. you're only making the problem worse by making this thread insane long.
10-12-2005, 10:41 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (Coldth1)
from what i understand and know there is nosuch thing as a b16a1 its either a b16a b16a2 or b16a3 and of course b16b and the differce from a b16a3 and all the other a's is its .010 over a regular b16a yes i know this for a fact because i bought b16a3 pistons for my b16a and they were to big for the holes and on the box it says the specs and there .010 over a b16a2
10-12-2005, 11:52 PM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (vancoland)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vancoland »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
haha...you're hilarious dude...you bought a front clip and didn't know what the fawk it came with...and you think im a moron?...you actually had to look and see if your engine was b16a or b16a2 when its jdm???...dumbass</TD></TR></TABLE>
hah the only thing that's jdm that you have a clue about is the herpes you got from that geisha girl in your avatar.
and who care about this b16 drama a b16 is a b16 is a b16 they all are practically identical.
haha...you're hilarious dude...you bought a front clip and didn't know what the fawk it came with...and you think im a moron?...you actually had to look and see if your engine was b16a or b16a2 when its jdm???...dumbass</TD></TR></TABLE>
hah the only thing that's jdm that you have a clue about is the herpes you got from that geisha girl in your avatar.
and who care about this b16 drama a b16 is a b16 is a b16 they all are practically identical.
10-13-2005, 12:08 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (diegoaccord)
he is right on the numbers, but the previous posts kinda got my confused.. and the first gen B16's available in CRX SIR's also only had 160 but they had even less TQ than the USDM B16A2 or EDM B16A2...
10-13-2005, 12:13 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (MikesGSRbuiltEG)
oh i do have a question, did the B16B come stock boosted? i know it sounds dumb but look at the link below.. hmmmmm B16B CTR Turbo, 235HP?????
http://www.japanmotorimport.co...Id=69
copy and paste that before anyone talks ****... lol i havent ever seen that before.. was it done aftermarketly or did a very small amount of CTR's actually come boosted?
http://www.japanmotorimport.co...Id=69
copy and paste that before anyone talks ****... lol i havent ever seen that before.. was it done aftermarketly or did a very small amount of CTR's actually come boosted?
10-13-2005, 12:51 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (MikesGSRbuiltEG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MikesGSRbuiltEG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh i do have a question, did the B16B come stock boosted? i know it sounds dumb but look at the link below.. hmmmmm B16B CTR Turbo, 235HP?????
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quick answer NO
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quick answer NO
10-13-2005, 12:53 AM
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HAHAHAHAH.... i would not buy that motor.. redline at 8200 more sounds like a b16a... i believe the b16b's redline is 8700 or 9000 not shure tho... but i know its not 8200.
10-13-2005, 03:20 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (Falqon)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Falqon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Dude, get over yourself, you've already been wrong on this thread once.
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I was wrong because I said 93-95 delSol VTEC? I know it's 94, but I said 93-95 because it's still OBD1 in 93, the year the delSol model it's self came out. It was easier to type that way, so I didn't have people saying "Well I got 93 delsol, dur dur dur."
Remember, I'm the one telliing everybody that there's no 92 coupes, and 92 delSlows is the first place.
But you're right. People won't read, as evidenced that they are still arguing over it, so expletive everybody. I'll let ignorance be bliss.
Dude, get over yourself, you've already been wrong on this thread once.
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I was wrong because I said 93-95 delSol VTEC? I know it's 94, but I said 93-95 because it's still OBD1 in 93, the year the delSol model it's self came out. It was easier to type that way, so I didn't have people saying "Well I got 93 delsol, dur dur dur."
Remember, I'm the one telliing everybody that there's no 92 coupes, and 92 delSlows is the first place.
But you're right. People won't read, as evidenced that they are still arguing over it, so expletive everybody.
I'll let ignorance be bliss.
10-13-2005, 03:25 AM
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (baseballinmyass)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baseballinmyass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
hah the only thing that's jdm that you have a clue about is the herpes you got from that geisha girl in your avatar.
and who care about this b16 drama a b16 is a b16 is a b16 they all are practically identical.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok dumbass...im sure you're a genius cuz you think you know what you're talking about . You say I don't have a clue about jdm when you didn't even know the basic info of what motor's in your car? where in your mind is a b16a2 jdm? oooohhh...nice defense on the herpes when you got PWNED.
and the girl in my avatar's not japanese...you stupid ***. who said i even like jdm?
hah the only thing that's jdm that you have a clue about is the herpes you got from that geisha girl in your avatar.
and who care about this b16 drama a b16 is a b16 is a b16 they all are practically identical.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok dumbass...im sure you're a genius cuz you think you know what you're talking about
. You say I don't have a clue about jdm when you didn't even know the basic info of what motor's in your car? where in your mind is a b16a2 jdm? oooohhh...nice defense on the herpes when you got PWNED.and the girl in my avatar's not japanese...you stupid ***. who said i even like jdm?
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Re: B16a vs B16a1 vs B16A2 (vancoland)
what tech advice are you trrying to convey here? i've looked at all of your other post and you never have had any technical input on any topic. to me it just sounds like your some fat kid somewhere who's to afraid to go out of the house.you cant fit into a honda because your so fat, so you have to bench race, so go on and keep clackin on that keyboard with those hot dog fingers.
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Re: (siregcivic)
i emailed that website with the B16B CTR turbo, and they said it has lower compression then the normal B16B and it redlines at 8500 rev limit at 87-8900.... also they said it is a EDM motor.. did they come boosted stock in europe?