Chris y0!

get a b16 then later down the road get a gsr block if you need more power

HUBB

then again speed is in my blood and im also very competitive and always want to be faster and better then myself and my homies. (bad trait) thats why i know that if i bust the b16....ill be pumped that im swapped but know that ill be wishin i waited.....****! im confused thanx for the help ....all this will be benificial to my final decision.....it all boils down to $ tho.

HUBB

then again speed is in my blood and im also very competitive and always want to be faster and better then myself and my homies. (bad trait) thats why i know that if i bust the b16....ill be pumped that im swapped but know that ill be wishin i waited.....****! im confused thanx for the help ....all this will be benificial to my final decision.....it all boils down to $ tho.....which i dont have

HUBB

i think im burnin this thread out....along with everyone one else... im a little indecisive if u guys havent noticed.. thanx again

Hatchtrap

if your money is low... then go for what you can get..... but if he rest fo yoru car is done.. try saving for the best...

WAFFLES

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sirhatchalot5 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


how is it a "HOOT" if its slower? the whole point of a swap is to go faster, and have as much HP possible. swapping engines isnt like changing tires, if your gonna do something, do it right the first time and not go back and say " oh i should have gotten a gsr".

whatever, i dont care anymore......get the b16 - it gives me one more person to beat at the track/street. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think you will ever get it man. Go ahead, spend an extra grand just to go a couple tenths faster then me. I don't care. Drive the same car with all the different engine set ups.
The b16 is more fun because it revs like a dirtbike.

Sometimes, some people prefer the fun to drive factor over ***** out power. I like smooth power bands where the power doesnt fall off until 8k. As I said earlier, i went from a midly built lsvtec to a b16. The b16 is slower and I still like it more.

WAFFLES

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hatch-E &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO. an b18b mated to any of the VTEC trannies will smoke a b16a anyday.

If i were you, that's what I would do. Ls longblocks around here are a dime a dozen. Rangin from $400-900 depending on year and such.

Perfect match would be b18b w/ LSD GSR tranny for budget.</TD></TR></TABLE>

been there, done that. not that impressed with it.

Hatch-E

iTrader: (1)

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been there, done that. not that impressed with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i see.. I was putting up my $0.02 for him becuase I kept reading that he was on a budget. Not everyone here can afford everything they want in less than a year.

WAFFLES

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i see.. I was putting up my $0.02 for him becuase I kept reading that he was on a budget. Not everyone here can afford everything they want in less than a year.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Me either, so don't assume anything.

B_CRUZ!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WAFFLES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


Sometimes, some people prefer the fun to drive factor over ***** out power. I like smooth power bands where the power doesnt fall off until 8k. As I said earlier, i went from a midly built lsvtec to a b16. The b16 is slower and I still like it more.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I agree with you 100% Blake.

save the extra $1000-$1500 and get the b16a instead of a gs-r. Use that money for your family or something...

South Bay Surfer

if yur planning to go all motor than i would say no. i've seen sohc vtecs perfrom to the same level as b16's. i believe b16's are just like sohc vtecs only more so. i say get a b18c!

mor ber

B16A is a great motor. Very smooth and fun. Go with a that or B18c5. But either motor is going to feel slow unless you really drive it hard. Don't bother with a GSR swap IMO it's worth it paying a little extra for the R swap. Whichever you get, get that limited slip diff!

mor ber

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HUBB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think im burnin this thread out....along with everyone one else... im a little indecisive if u guys havent noticed.. thanx again</TD></TR></TABLE>

too late, it's grown beyond your control!

HATCHingMN

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris y0! &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get a b16 then later down the road get a gsr block if you need more power</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with this guy

roadawg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iluvjasmine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i've seen sohc vtecs perfrom to the same level as b16's. i believe b16's are just like sohc vtecs only more so. i say get a b18c!</TD></TR></TABLE>


I've seen d16's smoke b18's too, any motor can be powerful.

Back to my point, yes it will be worth it, for the money you will have a lot of fun.

You won't be as quick as b18c1, but you won't be far behind at all.

For the $$$ it's a great motor. If you are on a budget, you won't regret it.
I have a first gen b16 in my EF civic and it's a blast to drive.


It's not all about track times for me, the car is quick and most of all it is just so much fun to whip around, and it loves to rev.

HUBB

B16A 92-95 (SiR-II) Complete Change Over:

170Hp 113Trq 10.4 Compression (JDM)
160Hp 111Trq 10.2 Compression (USDM)
$ 2250.00 Plus shipping and handling

This is what im gettin no backin out.

SiR HatchAlot

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HUBB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16A 92-95 (SiR-II) Complete Change Over:

170Hp 113Trq 10.4 Compression (JDM)
160Hp 111Trq 10.2 Compression (USDM)
$ 2250.00 Plus shipping and handling

This is what im gettin no backin out.
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i can buy 2 gsr swaps complete for that price alone. cant wait to see ya in my mirrors the track

Dancing is Forbidden

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i can buy 2 gsr swaps complete for that price alone. cant wait to see ya in my mirrors the track </TD></TR></TABLE>yeah....ones that are stolen/

lazy bum shaughn

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HUBB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16A 92-95 (SiR-II) Complete Change Over:

170Hp 113Trq 10.4 Compression (JDM)
160Hp 111Trq 10.2 Compression (USDM)
$ 2250.00 Plus shipping and handling

This is what im gettin no backin out.
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Isn't an H22 about that much?

TurboJesse

b16a swap $2000
Custom turbo kit w/hondata $2500
Total $4500
Owning every all motor car ive raced $Priceless

veryslowcx

i say yeah its worth it, if you are on a budget. its fun to drive when you have the b16 in your car. and if later on you want to do something else like the lsvtech its easy, even beter crvtech b20 block w/ b16 head.

GPoodle

I got that same swap from HMO. The sir-ii swap.

Make sure you spend the extra $300 for an LSD tranny. Mine worked out to just about $3000 after the LSD tranny and shipping from Cali to Wisconsin.

nsxmatt

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Isn't an H22 about that much?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes but with mounts, linkage/cables, axles, and extra time spent with the install it costs much more.

lazy bum shaughn

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxmatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes but with mounts, linkage/cables, axles, and extra time spent with the install it costs much more. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not that much more.

nsxmatt

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Not that much more.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Neither is a GSR swap but it is more.